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    mature modern games are unapologetic and give you a genital selection too

    the question is, are you a penis a or penis b type???

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      And despite all of that maturity, they still do male-gaze, heteronormative centric design.

      In BG3, Type A halflings (male presenting) are all dumpy and kinda goofy-looking. Type B halflings are all banging smokeshows. Give me the dumpy looking halflings, man.

      In Cyberpunk, the camera lingers on nude women, but hides or ignores male nudity, even if the player character is fem presenting and chooses a male partner.

      There’s a YouTube video about this, but I can’t find it. I’ll update later if I do (and remember)

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        eh, sounds like an accidental noting burger.

        these games are taking inclusion steps. but that doesn’t mean they need to stop catering for the majority. its still art made by humans and their own preferences find a way in

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        tbh baldurs gate and cyberpunk really lacked a proper donger slider

        would even be lore accurate with cybernetic dick enhancements in cyberpunk and magic in dnd

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          yeah and why can’t we buy exploding dick enhancements (or dick cannons) like that one dude we gotta give a ride to

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          Sorry. That’s on me.

          I was the one responsible for implementing the donger slider in Cyberpunk but I kept getting distracted with all the donger slider field research.

          Honestly a real-life donger slider is worth the investment.

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          I feel like there are cybernetic dick enhancements in cyberpunk but they’re not widespread or used a lot. Like they usually are peddled by sketchy folks and don’t seem to be something advertised that much.

          I mean, good chance I’m wrong on that but that was kind of the vibe I got playing the game.

          Dong slider is a hilarious thought. I don’t know enough about coding and game development but it feels like it might be hard to get the animations right if you had a slider vs selection because you’d have to be figuring out animations for those titties or cock on the fly.

          But maybe that’s just me showing my lack of knowledge, perhaps a slider from tiny titties to big ol tatas is already a thing in some games. I guess it’s also dependent on the game engine.

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          Cyberpunk had some great mods, though. It’s just too bad they didn’t show up in the sex scenes.

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          I mean there’s that one guy who said it felt like his dick was stuck in a goddamn pencil sharpener

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    no character creator has yet to top saints row 2. they just have a “body” slider on top of all the normal “slim/fat”, “short/tall”, “lanky/muscular” stuff that morphs where the body fat goes. if the booblies get too big your character gets a bra.

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      There was a protest in front of the Scottish supreme court when the UK had a ruling that declared trans women were men because of their “biological sex”. So a bunch of trans women stood with their tits out and arms painted red since apparently they’re men and that’s OK

      Ironically almost all media coverage of the event censored their breasts

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        While I agree, there is a connotation in many western countries to consider. Were women to be topless, they would be perceived as a thrill seeker, mentally ill, hippy, or something else in that vein because of religious customs dictating that arousal of your self, or even others is sinful. Changing perceptions would be a generational effort and, at least in the US, things are swinging more conservative rather than less.

        But, in some parts of Europe, toplessness is accepted on both sides of the aisle, so the world isn’t wholly broken. Asia has smatterings of the same. I support egalitarianism in all things, and it’s deeply frustrating that the human body is, mostly, stigmatized through crystalized, cancerous religious repression

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          Were women to be topless, they would be perceived as a thrill seeker, mentally ill, hippy, or something else in that vein because of religious customs dictating that arousal of your self, or even others is sinful.

          This is more of an argument to go topless than anything else.

          FREE THE TITTIES!

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              The only states in the US that have statewide bans on female toplessness is Indiana, Tennessee, and Utah. The majority of states in the US explicitly allow femme people to go topless because masculine people are allowed to go topless.

              How about we stop warning women about existing as women and push against people who would perceive women as “a thrill seeker, mentally ill, hippy, or something else in that vein” for judging them.

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                I recommend heading to Utah to spread your ideas. Half of the US lives in deep, dangerous repression. Direct your misplaced aggression at them, not me

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                  What? I live in the US. I’m speaking from my lived experience here. I agreed that Utah is one of the states that outlaws it.

                  I can’t have a conversation with you without being accused of being aggressive?

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          thrill seeker, mentally ill, hippy, or something else You call men like that “perverts” or “sex pests”. Women can be those things too.

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        I agree with the first. I think evolution would disagree with the second. The main purpose for partial display (aka cleavage) is enticement for attracting potential mates.

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          The same works with some nice hairy man pecs cleavage, what’s your point?

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          The main purpose of mammary glands is feeding offspring.

          Boobs can be sexual, but they are not inherently so.

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            I dived in a bit, and I will concede that sexual use is not the main reason, since they evolved from primates and previous species in order to produce milk. But all other species don’t have them constantly enlarged. Studies show that there are many factors at play, such as providing more area of touch for the human infant and perhaps a more constant source of food since human infants take longer to mature. But they did develop the use for sexual signalling too when we became upright, if for nothing else than for showing sexual maturity. The human brain has probably evolved along with those changes to select which characteristics evolved more pronounced.

            So they have multiple uses. The very fact that they are a subconscious trigger for the male has to mean something.

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              So they have multiple uses. The very fact that they are a subconscious trigger for the male has to mean something.

              Yep, they can be sexual but are not inherently sexual.

              It’s not just men that are turned on by boobs.

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    People who get vexed over gender in character creation are the same people bound to get really upset when watching a movie trailer.