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  • Echo Dot@feddit.uktomemes@lemmy.worldUnion dues
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    In a lot of countries it would be illegal.

    In a lot of countries the unions became powerful enough to be governments, and implemented anti-union busting laws.

    For some reason the United States seems to have skipped a bunch of the social development that went on in other countries. Unfortunately this is probably because of the American psyche and their obsession with the idea that rags to riches is possible, despite all the evidence. So nobody wants to limit their own potential wealth by giving away money to the workers, just in case one day they become the wealthy. The end result is that a bunch of people have to work for Amazon.


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    I know that this is what a lot of Americans think socialism is but it’s worth pointing out that socialism is not communism.

    Communists want to take over with force and violence and overwhelming thought policing. Inevitably this pisses people off and ultimately doesn’t work. See literally every communist regime ever.

    Socialists simply want to implement progressive policies and are generally happy to do that within the confines of current law (assuming the current law isn’t oppressive).

    The US becoming socialist would simply be via a series of increasingly progressive policies over a period of several electoral cycles. It wouldn’t be violence in the streets.


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    What really works is when unions start being powerful enough to dictate governmental policy. That’s when things really improve. Of course the millionaires and billionaires will complain about interference, because it’s only good when they do it.


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    It costs you 700 now and it costs them an unknown amount in the future. They just don’t like it because they suspect it’ll be quite a lot more than the 700 that you’re paying to join. They’re right too.

    But union dues are annoying in the moment, because when it happens all you see is a reduction in your pay and initially no change in working conditions. That’s why they have posters like that up, because even though intellectually people understand that being in a union will long-term result in better pay, in the short term it does effectively result in a temporary pay cut, which can be hard if you’re already not really very well paid.

    If you’re joining an established union sometimes they will be smart and not charge members until they’ve renegotiated their salaries. But that only happens if you’re joining a already formed union.