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/u/outwrangle before everything went to shit in 2020, /u/emma_lazarus for a while after that, now I’m all queermunist!

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  • You can’t dismantle systems of oppression without liquidating the oppressors.

    We didn’t end slavery by asking nicely, it took a civil war. Then, because we didn’t kill every slave owner and seize all of their wealth, they just reconstituted themselves as landlords. They defeated Reconstruction, regained power, rehired all their old slaves back as sharecroppers, and the oppression continued. The old slave catchers just became police, and they rounded up Black people and then put them on chain-gangs to be slaves for the State. Even today we have prison slaves working the fields.

    If every slave owner was hanged and their family’s wealth redistributed to their former slaves, none of this would have happened.

    If you don’t oppress the oppressors they just come back and resume their oppression. You have enemies. Start acting like it.











  • Calm down? I have no idea what you mean.

    I gave the example of felony murder to show that this isn’t just some exaggerated, non-standard way to judge crimes. It’s not just a US thing, it comes from common law. There’s similar law in Australia and Canada as well, and though it’s no longer practiced officially in the UK there’s the concept of “joint enterprise” whereby being involved in a murder still imputes criminal liability with similar legal outcomes.

    It’s not a world-wide way to conceive of crime, but it’s pretty normal. Hardly an exaggeration.

    Besides, is it so unreasonable to apply legal standards from the US to Parties within the US?

    If I give a gun to someone and they kill someone knowing their intent beforehand, I’m guilty by association. Why is that not enough?

    Because if you didn’t give them a gun, they wouldn’t have been able to kill as many people.

    If the number of people they can kill on their own is X, and the number of people they can kill with your help is X+1, then you killed that +1 even if you didn’t pull the trigger. They only died because you helped, which means you killed them

    If you knowingly help plan and facilitate a murder by your actions, you are a murderer. This is how most people view murder.

    You’re the odd one out.


  • Fascinating. You realize no one thinks this way, right? There’s a reason for that.

    If you facilitate the murder weapon and then protect the murderer from consequences so they can keep killing, you are just as guilty of murder as if you held the gun yourself. That’s how felony murder charges work. If there’s a shootout during a robbery and someone dies, the getaway driver still gets a murder charge despite not holding one of the guns. Where’s the exaggeration?