I just want to point out that saying something has the same energy doesn’t imply that it is the same thing in intensity. In fact, often we are hyperbolic to highlight the kind of energy that we are talking about.

The reason why you are getting down voted is also not because of your opinion that these things are different, in intensity or whatever, but because it feels like you really want to make that difference. Why do you care so much about that difference? Why are you defending bad behaviour from being compared to other bad behaviour? Why do you care? Most of people that you called autistic (in a prejorative manner), understand that as you trying to justify that behavior, and the answer to the question of “why would they” is that they understand you as such a person. A person who is acting in a way and is trying to excuse it.

Of course, I don’t claim such a thing but I thought, I would help you to understand this social event in your life, as these can be difficult to understand for some people, e.g. autistic people. I am proud of all the autistic people in this community who understood this interaction, good job! I know it might wasn’t easy for you.

Well take their wealth. They got their labours worth of resources and spent them.

I don’t think there are many meme places where this meme would be appreciated for what it is.

I think it is rather questionable to express that any of the real world practices of the porn industry is “outside the scope” when judging the real world practices of hooters. I think it is shameful that hooters doesn’t have very clear guidelines. I think it is shameful to make “jokes” that could make someone uncomfortable in such a dynamic. And okay, the man is probably lying to his wife and speaks in vague terms. He probably wants to look at the servers, but does he do more? That is your assumption. Understandable one but an assumption. So let’s grant that he makes weird jokes to the servers. Is he really less of a creep when he would watching Mia Khalifa porn? Of course, as Mia probably wouldn’t know that he specifically is watching, he would cause less harm in a sense, but the question is not harm reduction but being a creep.

I don’t see how you conclude that e.g. the man in the post plans to bend the rules at all.

The rest of your comment is disappointing. You know that I didn’t mean that a customer can’t sexually assault a server or former server. I meant that if the server quits, they are not longer being sexualized as part of their job and unless people are fucking creeps, their former employment should continue to sexualize them.

Also well it is a regrettable career. That doesn’t mean you have to regret it. But it is certainly regrettable like any other career. And women like Mia Khalifa have expressed regret in the past and yet while she was expressing regret, porn videos of her were widely available and consumed. That is what I was talking about. Not that the career is always ending in regret.

Thanks, I enjoyed explore the topic with you. Ch00f is doing a good job that expressing their thoughts. I am not convinced but I respect their effort and skill.

Yes there is a difference.

A customer of porn could share that porn long after that actress quit the industry and has publicly expressed regret.

A customer of hooters can’t force the server to continue to be sexualized at hooters.

But let’s focus on your example,

A customer could break rules at hooters, therefore consume porn and don’t go to hooters?

I guess my question would be creepy in perception or creepy in behavior?

Perception? sure, fine. Behavior? I think sexually dehumanising behavior would be what we would call creepy.

But I think a call to action (what the original comment was) to not be perceived as a creep… idk.

I would agree with you on that notion, while i think strip clubs are weird as fuck, but then we talk about personality and not behavior.

The original comment is a call to action, it is about behavior and not personality.

So it is less creepy to engage with porn than hooters while porn is arguably far more exploitative and dehumanising than hooters because the creep is interacting with the woman?

I really don’t know if I agree there and again, I think very poorly of hooters and their customers, I am not defending it.

I don’t know what to think about this.

While I don’t intend to visit hooter, strip clubs or anything alike and I think people can be creeps even if they are acting completely within the consent of others.

But how is a man who wants to go to hooters a creep but a man who wants to consumes porn not? The exploitation of women in porn is arguably worse because while they consent to the recording (i mean if not… I don’t need to continue my point) oftentimes they sell all their rights and lose all control over the recording. Consequently there is no backing out if they no longer want to be seen like that. (Of course, there are other issues) If you work for hooters, you know wtf is going on before you were hired and if you quit, you are not longer exposed.

So what is creepy about hooters but not about porn?

Is it the simple fact that the man seeks out some kind of sexualized interact with the woman?

Like?

As a serious question, what makes you feel like you have to correct a deliberate choice of a word? What about that choice makes you feel like that? What bothers you about it?

That is a good point while honestly I can’t think of a vague group like “others” without thinking of including my e.g. mom and also a random person from who knows where. We are brothers and sisters. And I don’t understand how i could have learn anything else from Jesus’ teachings and I am now a non believer.

“I do kneel” is a wild abbreviation for antifa.

Honestly i add $10 to the pot. Please, get them talking!

I am serious!

I know the name kid rock. I don’t know a single song of his, like I don’t know that it is his at least. And while I have seen his face recently, I couldn’t tell you who that people in the meme was without the label.

I seriously don’t know that guy at all. I am not denying his legend title to be mean or rude to him. I just think I would know a music legend.

KPIs and goodhart’s law ❤️

Sadly true. But in Europe, things don’t only move towards the shitters. Which gives me hope.

Anyway, europe might have to look into the French playbook.

I was straight but the garfield in this meme… I am gay now.

I am looking forward to the christian efforts to save our souls by finding the counter-piece to garfield.