This is why “eye witness testimony” can never be trusted. People with fucked up physiology just tumbling through life and not even realizing that their color wheel is off by magnitudes, and that cilantro is delicious.
This didn’t “reveal differences in human perception”. Those differences were well known already. What was lacking - and still is, as far as I know - is a good model of human colour perception.
I can sort of change it. Probably just my TN monitor though.
It appears white/gold to me on it’s own, I’ve never been able to see anything different.
Grabbing this specific image and sampling the colours though; they appear more of a grey/brown colour. I can sorta maybe understand blue, but definitely not black.
This is just using Polish photo editor on android:
This is exactly the thing.
Whatever the dress may be in reality, the photo of it that was circulated was either exposed or twiddled with such that the pixels it’s made of are indeed slightly bluish grey trending towards white (i.e. above 50% grey) and tanish browny gold.
That is absolutely not up for debate. Those are the color values of those pixels, end of discussion.
The “white” pixels are literally blue. The “black” ones can be considered gold due to the lighting.
Why not an American photo editor?
A) I’m not American
And
B) America can go fuck itself until it sorts out it’s Nazi problem. I still think Canada should enact a full trade embargo and take our business elsewhere.
I mean… it was a dumb joke on Polish and Polish being homographs, but okay.
Woops
I missed that; bit of a sensitive topic atm…
Never understood this one, or believed anyone who said they saw black/blue. You can zoom in and colour pick, the colours are measurable and objectively gold and blue-white.
Funny, I see black and blue, of course the “black” part looks like gold but I think it’s because of the lighting and the actual color is dark gray
I see white/gold too, and this always fascinated me because I’m wrong. The real dress is black/blue. It’s very hard for me to perceive that way, partly due to the bad quality picture, and particularly the background lighting.
The gold is black and the white is a dark blue irl, but in the bad coloring/lighting of the picture, the deep blue is quite washed out. Know that the colors are very washed out, know that the “gold” is black. Focus on the lower left where the colors are closest to true and block out the rest, especially the bright parts. The thick black stripe in the middle can also be a good spot to start to see it.
When I first saw the pic it was clearly blue/black. I laughed out loud when my wife asked me about the white/gold dress. I showed her my phone, and she agreed she could kinda see the blue black. She showed me hers, and I could kinda make out the white gold.
The device you view it on matters, and the lighting around you. For a while I could switch between them with concentration.
This pic is obviously white/gold.
Were taking about the pixels on the screen, not the real dress though, the colors on screen are what you see and theyre gold and blue-white
Yeah, and then people started posting comparison shots of what both groups of people see, side by side. One dress clearly being blue/black, and the other being clearly white/gold.
I just remember thinking to myself how people can look at that and still believe in nonsense. If there really was something going on with the colors, light wavelength, etc. we’d just be looking at a side-by-side image of two identical dresses, like looking at a stereoscopic image.
You never understood it because you are wrong. If you actually *color pick you will see that it is blue and black. Not only are you eyes/brain incorrect, but the original dress is actually blue and black.
I did that in photoshop and it confirned what my eyes saw
This isn’t the picture they used at the time either, why are we cropping it now?
This dress is black and blue. I am laughing hysterically that any of you think it’s not. Is your eyesight bad in other ways? Honestly asking because mine is really good.
I regularly colour-match clothes as part of my retouching work. My eyes are fine otherwise I wouldn’t be trusted with critical color work.
How does it feel to be objectively wrong?
…shortly after, the internet broke people’s brains though addictive feed algorithms and everyone lost their minds. But then Lemmy was born to restore the internet to an early more fun time. Lemmy just hopes that one day it will have its own dress moment.
We don’t need dress. We have beans.
Plz sned beans ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
I’ve only ever seen it as blue and black. I can’t force it the other way like I could with Laurel and Yani. Y’all seeing white and gold astound me.
Crazy talk. White and gold only
I see it obviously blue black, but I have some specific accessibility related colour filters on my screen that might influence this.
The photo looks different. I see the original as white and gold but this looks blue and black
I never really understood the debate. In reality, if you were standing in front of the dress it is black and blue. Now, if you take a digital photo of the dress and post it on the internet as a terribly compressed jpg, with weird white balancing, and brightness/contrast turned up and down it is gold and white. The debate isn’t really about the reality of the color of the dress but the reality of a badly edited photo.
if you take a digital photo of the [ … thing … ] and post it on the internet as a terribly compressed jpg
That sums up the entirety of the content on a number of popular subs on the R-word site.
Confusing perspective? No. More like confusing JPEG artifacts.
You used to be able to report shit for not being confusing, but it was placebo at best. That site sucks so much.
It’s more about the colors around it. This image from Wikipedia does a really good job illustrating the effect.
Context is extremely important in identifying color. As Technology Connections tells us, for example, “brown is just orange with context.”
What always confused me is, the picture clearly seems to be overexposed, which means the blue/black interpretation should be obvious.
I agree. But my wife was so firmly in the white/gold camp that I had to find this (and a better image of the actual dress, which is indeed blue and black) to help us understand one another’s perspective.
And what everyone seemed to omit: the reality of peoples’ wildly uncalibrated monitors/phone screens.
Is it, though? Is this dress in the pic only white and gold to everyone who looks at the picture/the original?
Article with original photo. Frankly, I see it as blue and gold this morning after I just woke up. I know that I’ve been able to see both of the other views (limited) when I viewed the photo when I was fully awake, but not right now.
It kills me that no matter what, it is always white and gold for me, EVEN THOUGH REALITY SAYS OTHERWISE!
Brain defect.
Yea i never see an ounce of black on there. That’s fucking yellow.
I see blue stripes or white if standing in a shadow. But there is no black.
*yeah, not yea or nay. It isn’t a vote.
Because no one has posted the other photos:
And this is a photo of the same dress taken under proper lighting:
All three of these look blue and black just with different levels of saturation?? I can understand how people can maybe see the gold, but interpreting the blue as white is baffling to me. Bluer than the day sky.
The second photo is supposed to be the same dress? Looks like an homage, aka knock-off attempt to me. What happened to the shoulders?
I’ll double-check the source of the second photo, but it looks like the original picture is taken from the back and the second is taken from the front.
Add: Yeah, it’s not the EXACT SAME dress worn to the wedding where the original picture came from, but it is the same design by the same maker.
…Also, THIS is the source the second photo came from and today I learned that the dress actually did drive people insane! Holy fuck! 😭
https://sg.news.yahoo.com/man-whose-mother-law-wore-225725928.html
Some people said the dress was black and blue while others argued it was white and gold. The court heard the couple had a “volatile” relationship and Johnston became enraged with his wife at their home during an argument. He then tackled her to the ground and throttled her using both hands. […] He threatend to “finish her off”, struggled with his wife again, brandished a knife, uttered a further threat that “somebody was going to die” and then attempted to self-harm, the court heard. He pleaded guilty at the same court last month to assaulting his wife to her injury and endangering her life. […] They went on to appear on the Ellen DeGeneres Show in the USA, where they were handed $10,000 and a luxury trip to Grenada.
Man behind viral #TheDress photo jailed for attacking wife
Damn. Sentenced to 4½ years.
Doesn’t look like the shoulder material is physically part of the dress… it’s probably a jacket or shaul.
Not even the brighter version looks white and gold to me. It’s so obviously blue and black, y’all are insane.
Right? To be white and gold the dress would need to be in shadow, but it’s clearly in light.
I’m the opposite, the OG photo reads white and gold no matter what edits I see. Even after seeing the dress in proper light the OG is still white and gold.
I understand doubting the white but seeing black in that gold was what I could never buy. To me it seemed like light blue-grey with matte gold.
What on earth are you talking about.
Only the ‘darker’ picture looks remotely blue and black
I’m with you. This viral moment never made sense to me cuz I can never see anything else even with my wildest imagination.
Same, I see light blue and still black
Let’s do this again!
Seriously WTF??? It’s freakin white.and.gold.
It’s almost like color is arbitrary and dependent on the environment. I know it’s such a complex concept for millions of adults./s
When i first opened the image, it was undeniably white/gold to me, and I could not trick myself into seeing black/blue. After looking at the HQ image above, now I can not see white/gold anymore.
Edit: After writing this comment, it is back to white/gold.
Had the same happen to me
No way, really ? I really thought it was always white and gold. This cannot be the same dress, I do not trust my eyes anymore
Even with my phone cranked all the way up it still looks blue to me. I’ve never been able to see the white and gold version people claim exists.
10 years? No way
ARE YOU FR? WHO REMEMBERES THIS? IS THIS A SARCASTIC POST??? SAY SIKE OP
For your information : the dress is really blue and black, according to the store and manufacturer. The vast majority of people see it as white and gold, but I personally think most people are not used to decrypting overexposed pictures, hence their inability to perceive the right colors.
overexposure is not the issue but improper white balance, the camera was probably set for ~6800K but the lighting in the room was ~2700K
I’ve never seen it at white and gold. Even the brightened photo, while I understand what’s happening to make people see white and gold, is still blueish/purple and black to me. Does that mean I have a tumor?
So closed minded smh
not used to decrypting overexposed pictures
I used to see it black and blue, now I see it white and gold.
+ I do photography and often have to work with overexposed pictures
Edit: just looked at it again now its black and blue. Wtf brain
Wow you figured out how to break JPG encryption? Someone call Alan Turing, we got a prodigy over here
I’m French, we often use comparable actions verbs even if it’s not their real context. More commonly known as the metaphore stylistic device.
I’m not French, we also do it, it’s commonly done and you were completely legible. Dude needs to chill
Is it common for the French to put together random semi-related, mostly nonsense words to try and sound like you know what you’re talking about?
Sounds like you need to open a dictionary ! It’s one of those big, stern books. Books are those stacks of paper bound together on one side.
I have not enjoyed passing through your comments in this thread
No need to be so sassy c’mon
Being sassy is fine, but being sassy and incorrect makes you look silly.
Just calling em like I see em, but fine. Carry on with the nonsense
Do you see em as white and gold?
Decrypt is closely related to the word “interpret”, which is something I personally interpreted from a history of decrypting English text written by nonnative speakers on the internet. 👍
The same words often have different meanings in different countries; something you should take into account in case you ever decide to take a German gift from a slim Dutchman.
“Decipher” is a mostly synonymous word which is more commonly used in that context.