Yeah but, what if you could star in this instead?
A cool thing about being tone deaf is that I can’t tell who voices who.
A sad thing is I can’t tell hot water vs cold water being poured. Finding out people could do that seemed like a super power to me.
I usually just wait for a subtle hints of steam building up inside the boiler. To be clear, i think shark tale is really not bad, at all. But it’s weird. I have a dvd of this movie
He also turned down Django Unchained. Will Smith is just shit at picking roles.
he’s also extremely dedicated to maintaining his brand. turning down Django Unchained does feel like a HUGE wiff to me though. Django is basically Deadshot if Deadshot lived in the Antebellum South (presumably after the California gold rush since he spends some time in Colorado). maybe Tarantino films can’t ever fit the Will Smith toxic positivity brand?
maybe he just didnt get the point of the story or something. I dont think you can act well if you cant get into the character
In general, will smith has always been an action type of guy in his roles, but to do that he always needed to have clear motivations. I guess a nested dream in a dream isn’t functional for this type of actor.
Well, and the fact that back then these movies were almost a gamble you know, like now we treat them as cult classics, but than they were absolutely new and nobody know what they were about.
I suppose I could see Inception as being a very risky film based on the script, to be completely fair
I dunno if I would call Inception a gamble, it’s Christopher Nolan
Once Matrix got super popular Will slapped himself.
With this crisis of new stories to tell, with this incessant demand and lack of offer, it would be interesting to see the movies that famously never were made or would have been made differently with other directors, protagonists, scripts, adaptations, etc. I’d still avoid them, but a Matrix film starring Will Smith would be a success selling tickets.
Nah sure, giant mecha-spider in the Wild West is more straightforward I guess.
(Speaking of which Kevin Smith did a ride of a story about a superman movie that never got made, which ties into that very same Mecha-spider)
I enjoy Kevin Smith story time far more than his movies.
Ever heard about his wife?
HOW DARE YOU
He has a wife, you know?The bald one?
👊
The jiggy with guy dumb?
The wild wild west guy dumb?
Yes
Let’s all get jiggy with it!
Some people are not set up for science fiction or fantasy at all. Will Smith is a borderline case, though.
I think with The Matrix specifically it has to do with the physicality. Late 90s Will Smith was in shape and could do big, bombastic action, but I can’t imagine him doing precise martial arts moves without it looking like a comedy.
Thats what we all said about Keanu. He was a joke at the time. Or rather basically type cast. Even in the more serious roles he was pretty goofy. Speed comes to mind. The Matrix gave me and many i know a bigger liking for the young silly Ted Logan.
Yeah but that would go both ways. Imagine he did the matrix and it maybe worked out. People would now be like: can you imagine the shitty actor Keanu Reeves was going to play neo in the matrix?
Didn’t you do a sci-fi with his kid? I’ve never seen it and I have no idea what it was about or what it was called but I’m sure it was a sci-fi.
He’s done quite a bit of sci-fi! Off the top of my head I can think of
- Men in Black
- I, Robot
- I am Legend
- Independence Day
Basically the same character in all those movies. Not a criticism but it’s the same dude. Neo is not a bad ass running down a cephalopod. He’s learning and adapting to a system and using his mind. I just dont see it working out as well as he is a front man, not a team. He takes over the story with personality.
None of those films feature any science.
Neither does The Matrix, but it’s still firmly planted in the realm of science fiction.
After Earth. It’s kinda lightweight as far as sci fi goes.
He was fine with the script up to following the white rabbit.
Will smiths thing is most similar to dwayne johnson, he wanted to be the LEAD or the most prominent actor and not the side character
Agreed and his personality takes over the story which works for men in black but I don’t think it would for the matrix.
What do you mean, he played the genie, and, oh right…
His acting as the genie was OK. But it was very clear that he was acting in the shadow of Robin Williams for that role. It is kinda hard to move away from that one however.
So what? He’s still doing fine. Was he supposed to be in every blockbuster ever made?
He also won an Oscar. Keanu didn’t. I don’t think that doing Matrix or Inception would have a big impact on his career.
Sean Connery turned down both Gandalf in Lord of the Rings and Morpheus in The Matrix because he didn’t understand the scripts. He turned down Dumbledore in Harry Potter because it was too fantastical. Then he tried a reverse approach where he accepted the next role he didn’t understand, because clearly that was where the money was at. So he accepted Allan Quartermain in The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, a movie which flopped hard. Then he ragequit the industry and retired.
I remember liking LOEG
I recently rewatched it and it was a good romp for sure. I never read the comics but apparently it was super unlike the comics it was based on which was part of its problem. Generally pissing off your core audience of fans in an adaptation is bad for the outcome of the movie
Honestly, Sean Connery as Gandalf would have been shit.
But imagine him ‘asking harry calmly’
He was interviewed by Czech TV during the premiere and was asked if the viewers should go see it. He said that he’s getting paid for every ticket sold and therefore yes! Everyone should see it!
Made me laugh. I dont know how true it is but its funny. :)
I love that movie, I thought he did great in it too
And that car, though.
I mean, it had nothing to do with him, but still. Goddamn sexy car.
Same here. It’s a fun action romp with some interesting characters. I get that it’s not peak cinema but it’s still good.
Some of the CGI in it is insanely good too (the invisible man), Corridor Crew did a react episode or two about it.
The movie made a decent bit of money, just terrible reviews.
Django Unchained too.
Thank the lord!
Yeah, no joke lol. Jamie Foxx absolutely knocked it out the park.
I thought they considered Smith for DiCaprios role, like in Inception.
Oh yeah that’s right, the DiCaprio role was going to be a Clayton Bigsby type
Will Smith would have been disastrous in The Matrix and now I want to see it
Agreed, but I also firmly believe there is another universe in which we could believably type “Keanu Reeves would have been disastrous in The Matrix”
There are Ai clips now on YouTube where they replace actors in famous movies, like putting Tom Cruise in the matrix or whatever.
I dont watch them because I dont want my nice memories of these movies to be overwritten, but it shows how easy it is today to do.
I get what you mean/agree, but to play devil’s advocate, his character in Enemy of the State could’ve sorta worked as Neo.
It is crazy how I always think of that movie as “early career Will Smith before he became famous quippy superstar” but it released between Men In Black and Wild Wild West.
There would be too many wisecracks. Did keanu even smile as Neo?
Yup. I think if will smith had done it, it would be a completely different movie and may not have been as much a runaway success as it was
I know kung fu
I was thinking, thank god he turned it down.
Inception, on the other hand - I can’t recall any of the characters, so I don’t know which role he was considering. It’s a perfect Will Smith movie.
If memory serves me right the protagonist in Inception was confused a lot and Wil can pull off confused.
If memory serves me right the protagonist in Inception was confused a lot
Dicarpio’s character wasn’t confused, you may be thinking of Elliot Page’s character, but I wouldn’t count that character as the main protagonist.
They were probably thinking of Cillian Murphy’s character
I barely remember it. I was pretty high at the time.
I’m imagining his robot hating Detective Spooner from iRobot, walking around the matrix being pissed off. Or in inception confused and pissed off.
Real eyes realize.
… real lies
Most likely Leo DeCaprio’s role.
Imagine the tie-in music video he would have done.
uh-huh yeah ha ha woo uh huh am I dreaming or is this real, sleep all day, gotta get that feel ha ha yeah oh uh the city is spinning, but ya see ha ha I ain’t dipping. gotta get the reception, ha ha yeah woo it’s an inception!
With the squid machines doing hip hop dances in the background
Woo, ha-ha ha-ha.
Given that he turned it down for Wild Wild West, use that as a basis.
well , excuse me for the AI haters out there. But we gotta do this.
Seedance, c’mon boy, DO IT!!!
Will Smith as NEO in the Matrix.
EDIT: I found one, a year old but it checks out
You get that we wanted dialogue right? We can all imagine Will Smith in a leather jacket with slow motion bullets moving around him.
Every time someone who is pro AI tries to advocate for it it always comes off as their brain having turned to porridge. You get we can see that image in our minds, we don’t need it visualised for us at the expense of half an olympic swimming pool worth of water and at least six trees.
AI BROS, DO YOUR THING!
It’s just an infinite number of Will Smiths eating an infinite amount of spaghetti.
I still appreciate that he actually acted out the AI clips of him eating spaghetti
Edit: found it on Instagram and I could watch the clip in a private tab successfully, didn’t see any better hosts on a quick search though
