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    Yeah, like, what’ll they do with all that “eating infant intestines” material.

    Life has become too surreal to have any hope of parodying. I’ve “eaten the onion” at least 4 times in the past 12 months.

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    I seem to be the only one confused by this - what leak? Is it just a typo?

    A leak is when something is released without authorisation? So far the only information is authorised releases of the files with lots of stuff redacted, and allegations there is more being held back. Has there been a leak too?

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      There were a couple instances where they accidentally released unredacted versions of files before they realized and replaced them with redacted versions, but that’s all I can recall off the top of my head. One instance of that occured last week.

      I think there may have been some documents released without authorization before, but I can’t recall when, just a vague recollection.

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    Now that “Anti-woke” ideology has been revealed as a psyop by the Epstein files, I’m very curious to see if Trey Stone and Matt Parker will choose to reckon with their own contributions or if they’ll double-down.

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      Anti PC culture was already around for a long time, it just got tossed into overdrive with the 4chan Epstein stuff, they’re pretty self aware though, so we’ll see

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        Yep. I remember the film PCU quite well. It was a very nineties sentiment in some circles to push back against “political correctness.” IIRC Matt and Trey at one point had to explain to people in the early days that they weren’t conservatives, it was just that they felt that “liberals” tended to be easier to make fun of most of the time (particularly self-righteous celebrities).

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    so they write an episode about some of their classmates getting abducted to be used at krasnov’s pleasure dome? that is not a fun episode to write.

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      they already wrote an episode where some of the kids met up with adults because they thought it was something else (and it was actually some adult shit)

      Edit: Episode name of “Cartman joins NAMBLA”

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    What’s the point of satire if it can’t keep up with how bizarre reality has become?

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      They need an episode with a disclaimer the whole time that this actually happened. It wouldn’t be a fun episode though.

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        I recognize that that type of comment is supposed to be a joke (and I’ll react accordingly, because I’m not a buzzkill), but it absolutely isn’t actually funny (ha-ha) for me.

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          Oh definitely. But it’s hard to be funny at all right now. Because “ice murders entire retirement home” is too believable in the same way that “rental cars full of ice agents visit retirement home and does good deeds all day and nothing terrible happens” isn’t.

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      That was a thing during the first Trump administration. Comedians were complaining because anything Trump did would immediately be pale in comparison to what he did next. Just one really stupid thing after another.

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    South Park sucks now. Kyle and Stan said that, and since they are Matt and Trey, i don’t think they enjoy writing this crap. It’s that they can’t stay silent about it, so I personally think they hate that. And I hate it too, everything about Trump makes me want to vomit.

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      I remember years back, when they took their first extended break and there were speculations about South Park being done, Trey Parker said something about having Cartman’s voice in his head constantly and so he needed to make the show to kind of exorcise that voice. I bet it’s the same with Randy at this point, too. They can’t help that they have the most obnoxious and insistent muse that’s ever mused.

      I also think the title of the recent season finale (“Crap Out”) has multiple layers of meaning: they more or less crapped out a conclusion to a storyline, the story itself is literally a kind of crap out, AND I think there’s a lament/realization that what’s all happening in the US will simply crap out itself rather than be properly addressed and dealt with.

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      They’re making the big bucks. Theyve regularly tried to get the show cancelled with that joke of “South Park Sucks Now” they even got the hashtag #cancelsouthpark trending on purpose. If they really wanted to walk away, they could. But they just keep coming back with more and more ridiculous demands for pay and they keep getting it.

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        As far as I can tell, they are genuinely good folks who use money and influence to do good. After taking ownership of Casa Bonita, during the renovation period that followed, they said that they will still pay the existing employees, but only if those employees do charity work while the place is being renovated. Mat and Trey make money but they don’t seem hungry for more. They also renewed a deal with Paramount; but when CBS tried to cancel Colbert so that the duo’s parent company, Skydance, will have the Trump admin approve the merger with CBS, Mat and Trey unabashedly criticised their company without fear of cancellation and despite having just signed a renewed contract. They were not punished nonetheless and if even if there have been, I believe they will stick to their guns.

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          TBF, there’s some serious questions around how employees are being treated at Casa Bonita right now (but I’m not really all that knowledgeable about that stuff). But, yeah, they seem to be genuine people overall. They gave a ton of money to the animation program at UC Boulder. They’ve been pretty committed to an avoidance of hypocrisy–they’ve lampooned wealth and celebrity and are trying to not become the thing they’ve joked about.

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        I guess you are right. It’s just about the money now. They already made the deal, so a lot more lazy episodes will be coming.

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      Whenever they take on real world stuff, they’re incredibly smug and sanctimonious about it. This has been the case since the start, and I can’t say I’ve ever been able to get past that.

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        I grew up on that show, and I don’t really see what you mean. Maybe because my political views are more or less aligned to theirs. But I get this type of humor is not for everyone, especially if you don’t agree with the message they are trying to send. I don’t enjoy their new stuff but it’s because I mentioned in my previous comment. Real world right now is crazier than any fiction, so you can’t really laugh at the jokes when it’s just the world. it’s more depressing than funny.

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        I don’t think so, I think that sounds like some criticism from someone that doesn’t have anything real to criticize.

        People like that suck too, like at least be decent to wait to find something with merit to ctiticize, just pushing through some ad hoc criticism anyway is annoying. I mean, how is it sanctimonius of them to critique current events? How is that any more smug than the person criticizing them for being smug for the crime of lampooning current events?

        More than likely the criticizer is a dick rider of someone they are making fun of, without anything real to criticize, but a social media following and perhaps a contract for pr.

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          I don’t like South Park because of that smug, sanctimonious tone either, but my housemates love it and regularly leave re-runs playing for background noise as they go about their day, so allow me to offer that same criticism from someone that has seen every episode multiple times and can offer something “real” to back it up:

          The long arc of the South Park plot follows Trey and Parker’s political development from bitter, unknown California Republicans with sarcastic, nihilist tendencies to disillusioned Big Hollywood Conservatives with sarcastic, nihilistic tendencies being forced to reckon with the fact that their past attempts at satire have either had no impact or have actually reinforced the perceived social ills they pretend to mock.

          Al Gore’s portrayal in S22E06 “Time to get Cereal” exemplifies this, even after he is proven to have been right about ManBearPig all along, this later appearance shows him as still being a huge weenie that cares more about being acknowledged as having been right than wanting to actually solve the problem. Having belatedly acknowledged the existential threat, Trey and Parker still can’t bring themselves to issue a call to action, and everything goes back to normal after they kick the can a little further down the road.

          Thus, the smug, sanctimonious tone has been a constant throughout, as if they still imagine that the greatest sin is caring about things. They’re so heavy-handed about it that they lampoon this aspect of their own show in Kyle’s “Don’t you see,” and “Y’know, I’ve learned something today” closing monologues. Even when he’s telling a real political truth, like in the banned S16E06 where the text of the monologue is an admission that terrorism works and the subtext is a refusal to acknowledge their own contributions to post-9/11 anti-muslim discrimination in America, Jesus (representing mainstream American Christianity) gives falsely-sincere advice to the gingers (who represent all minority groups facing irrational discrimination) that they just need to get as violent as the most aggressive extremists so that people will respect them. Which is itself a smug, sanctimonious, and sarcastic way of suggesting that they can never be respected as people, only either seen as lesser or feared as an enemy.

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            I haven’t seen much new from them. But calling them republican for criticizing al gore belies faullty logic.

            For the crime of contending the campaign was more for personal gain is probably an accurate critique to a large degree. It often is with these aristocrats. Just like Robert Kennedy here, he doesn’t believe this shit, he’s playing them, it’s his thing, they all do it, none of them are authentic.

            I never got the impression they were sanctimonius themselves, simply lampooning, mimicking, satirizing our society would come across like that however if one wasn’t able to make the distinction, because our influencers are. The ones I’ve seen it’s clearly satire, like they are making fun of the characters’ naivety and simpleness as they are in society not themselves moralizing to the audience.

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          I feel like you’re a bit too emotionally involved. It’s just a cartoon, calm down.

          Anyway, to clarify my comment, which I thought was brief and to the point enough that it was easy to grasp, but apparently not for you: I don’t think there’s anything wrong with covering current events or lampooning stuff. The way south park does this is sanctimonious and smug, to the point where I find it a bit hard to watch.

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            You are doing a Cartman on here, projecting and slandering emotional arguments knowing passing commenters don’t know any better than to take your “side.” Yet your argument doesn’t make any sense, and no number of half-wits agreeing with your half baked emotional slanders changes that. Your argument was without merit, and you have an ulterior motive for it, one you don’t want to share. You are playing the sheep.

            You also use slanders elsewhere don’t you? Accusing the writers of south park to be transphobes without evidence, and everyone watching the show of running cover for them. That forces people to go on the defensive, so that’s a fun one for manipulators. It is harmful to those groups to make false allegations like that though, lessening the value of them when the accusations are real.

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    Couldn’t they just animate literally any white house press conference and call it a day?

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    I’m afraid that we are in a point where reality is much worse and bizarre than anything Parker and Stone could imagine.

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      I was watching Jam the other day, and that honestly seemed better and more rational than reality. South Park has been a documentary for a long time.

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        I like the scene with Noem offing the puppy shelter at the end that did not aire in the US at first.

        Her face by the way, she takes it off every night and soaks it in a jar of that shit the rich extract from trafficked children in the Q thing, what’s that called.

        Turns out Q was true if you just reverse all the accusations.

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        I haven’t seen the show in years. The last thing I remember are those nostalgic berries or whatever.

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          In the latest season Trump is an abusive boyfriend to Satan, who he has knocked up. Some episodes are about him treating Satan poorly or trying to kill the unborn baby.

          JD Vance is maybe 15 inches tall and sort of looks like the guy from james bond that kills people by throwing hats.

          Kristi Noem literally shoots a dog in every episode, everytime she is on screen, sometimes multiple times in an episode.

          You don’t have to watch it but they are definitely doing their best to produce satire.

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            They’ve almost shifted to a place like Doonesbury where an element of what’s surreal (surreality? is that a word? the red squiggly lines on my monitor don’t seem to think so…) is employed. I’ve not read that comic in years, but I remember that GW Bush was represented by a floating cowboy hat and I always thought that was creative and evocative. Turning JD Vance into Tattoo from Fantasy Island was a stroke of genius. And how they depict Trump Jr. cracks me up. There have been a few episodes this season that have been funnier than any they’ve produced in at least ten years if not more.

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            The JD vance thing is a spoof of the Fantasy Island TV show. The dwarf that would say, “Boss, ze plane!”

            My favorite was that connection between Thiel and the antichrist stuff. Saying Satan was cursed with a very tiny asshole after being banished so he couldn’t reproduce, but Trump’s penis is so incredibly small it was able to fit."

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    Honestly, fuck those assholes. They played a non-insignificant role in getting us where we are right now with their “enlightened centrist” both sides, edgy 4chan humor bullshit

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      Ignoring the ridiculousness of the politically correct wouldn’t have kept the republicans from winning.

      You thinking it does really gives you away, as someone so delusional, so misled by monied interests playing you, that speaking to you bears as much fruit as speaking with a maga diehard.

      No offense.

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          Yes, they did fire in all directions and some of there jokes did not age well. What is your point? Are you suggesting that they are evil because they were not 100% correct all the time?

          (also iirc for that specific episode they did a correction 10 years later. )

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          There is no context for this, how so? I’m not running cover for anyone, are you saying by talking about southpark? Whom decided that watching/talking about/discussing south park was “running cover for vile transphobes?”

          Sounds like obscuring the issue with emotional arguments and slander to cancel the argument without addressing the point. It works with bigotry because everyone feels like they have to go on the defensive even without merit, or context. So what evidence backs up your bigotry accusation, and if without merit would it not be you running cover/helping transphobes by making bad faith accusations for other reasons and therefore discrediting the movement that makes real and credible accusations?

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              So everyone commenting on southpark is “running cover for transphobes,” because you condemned that episode, got it.

              Or just the ones that disagree with you in effect I presume.

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                yeah, south park creators are vile transphobes, as that episode clearly demonstrates and therefore everyone running cover for their show is running cover for vile transphobes.

                However it so clearly is not just that episode. Which is what I meant by “these (plural) are the kinds of jokes”. The visual style chosen for mrs. garrison is the plainest “man-in-a-dress” transmisogynist trope and it was on for seasons.

                the “mr. slave” homophobia??? “Lol gay people loving shoving stuff up their ass” Like come on. It’s all edgy 4chan humor.

                How about you come up with some witty well-deserved jokes they made up about the “politically correct” crowd?

                Edit: “so you think <extreme bad faith simplification of what you said>. Got it” is such a childish response, like, yeah you got me I clearly am sooo stupid, thank god for mr anticancel culture warrior here (yes I am “assuming your gender”, guess how…) being so above it all and ready to set them essjaydubbleyous straight

                A well meaning tip: it comes off as you lacking reading comprehension and not as you being above it.

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                  Isn’t that convenient, well case closed. Thanks for letting us know! Here we were all unaware of the conviction for bigotry you returned in secret and have used to condemn everyone that disagrees with you on this subject.