Youtube can suck a peener. I will pirate whole channels if they keep fuckin’ up.
Google really seems to want to disincentivize people paying for YouTube Premium rather than just downloading an ad blocker.
I finally gave up when they started blanking out my home page as I turned off history… I don’t even miss it
Meanwhile on Steam my “family” consists of 3 adults with different addresses, last names, and credit cards, who have had accounts for decades and never lived at the same place.
We have full access to each other’s library.
How do you add new people? I tried and a prompt told me that we don’t seem to share a household.
I had that error a couple of times, and it inexplicably resolved itself. Try having the person join again (which may require a new invite). I think only 1 out of 4 members of my family were able to join without that initial error message. This was back when Steam had just switched how they handled family sharing, so I assumed it was just an implementation bug of some sort. One of my friends took three attempts before they could join, but it worked ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Though I will note that steam family sharing no longer works if the person is located in another country for the purposes of Steam billing region (so my Norwegian friend could not join my UK family)
Login on their PC or let them login on yours
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If one changes their password afterwards, will the share persist? Old Steam family sharing broke after changing the passwords.
Should still work. Not 100% sure tbh
While steam has historically been “good”, doesn’t mean it’ll stay that way…
Sure, the 2 constants in the universe are Entropy and Enshitification. When Steam turns to shit I’ll go back to Piracy just like I did when Netflix went to shit.
My point is that companies don’t have to be shit about account sharing and family plans, and people don’t have to accept it.
One would wonder how they’d know that but then again, one knows.
Firefox + ublock origin still works to block all YouTube ads
Invidious is a frontend for YouTube that blocks all their trackers and ads
PeerTube is an alternative community ran platform to replace YouTube in the future
ff+ubo+privacy badger (ff on my distro suggested privacy badger, can’t remember exact number but when ubo blocks over ~1k privacy badger has like 2 - 4 on it, surprising me a little there are not more trackers) on pc, my phone has no adblocking atm and I know their info on me is wrong because all I do see are gambling ads and I have never gone to a gambling site, I don’t even get the scam game ads my gf does on her phone. One day I may try out one of the “delete my dam info” places just to see how much they really have on me
Just use Firefox Mobile to watch YouTube.
Ad blocking through uBO and can enable playing with locked screen.
I keep trying to convert my friends to using Firefox mobile for this reason. I generally try not to evangelise too much, but I have so many friends who keep complaining about ads when browsing the internet on mobile, and this would literally solve their problem. One friend complained about ads so frequently that they ended up getting irked at me telling them the problem was solvable. Our unhappy compromise was that I would stop telling them to use Firefox and uBO if they stopped complaining about this so much in front of me.
I respect their choices, but by God, I’m baffled by them. I get that inertia makes it hard to make switches like this, but when you’re spending so much time complaining about how much effort it takes to use the internet on your mobile, why would you not just solve the problem?
Just use Firefox Mobile
to watch YouTube.There we go, fixed it for you
Invidious sadly doesn’t allow for an account and subscriptions, at least not without running your own server which appears… complex.
That part is working now
I can load in my subscriptions.csv file from youtube into my subscriptions list on my Invidious account.
And that all works through a web browser
Good thing I am never going to go youtube premium.
As someone with divorced parents this invalidates what I call a “family”. Same to you… Netflix
Fuck em. We try to pay even tho we know how to get it for free. Go back to ad blockers.
Not a perfect experience but it’s better than putting up with that corporate bullshit.
I use a VPN so yeah that’s not going to work.
I suspect Google won’t care if they “accidentally” lock VPN users out of YouTube Premium.
Considering 50% of gen Z use vpns, I think they might need to reconsider
Just like Netflix
I just got a notification that Amazon Prime is doing the same with grandafathered accounts allowed across households.
More people need to use Peertube.
Peertube needs monetization and the ability for people peer without self-hosting. A torrent client of sorts.
The product, in it’s current form cannot replace Youtube. Youtube gives you traffic, a free place to host even your crappiest footage, and money if enough people start watching it regularly.
Peertube isn’t free, it’s just someone else footing the bill, which breaks under load.
Seeing the number of dead torrents, it’s highly likely that many videos will quickly die as well
But it would be nice to have a way to seed.
Problem with all federated platforms: which one should people pick? Most instances don’t federate with others
highly likely that many videos will quickly die as well
Ideally, everyone would just post their own stuff from their own disk. As things got popular, the fans would cache it for others. We’d just need the self-hosting angels to help us with discoverability.
Realistically, a quick death is probably a fortunate way to save resources if a video can’t gain traction from being useful or entertaining.
This will be like Netflix pushing against shared accounts, sure it will work and their revenue will go up, but I will stop being a paying customer and will only watch videos from my notebook with adblocks.
Why pay for premium anyway? Let alone a family plan. You still get ads. They can be skipped too — SponsorBlock will do it for free. Google could use this but chooses not to.
They want YouTube to be like cable TV. You pay for it. You watch ads. You pay more for premium channels.
YouTube is my only subscription.
I use it for Music and Video. I definitely get my money’s worth, they’re streaming to me at least 8 hours a day.
If it’s not background music, it’s videos. I can’t even fathom how many hours of ads I have avoided.
I’ve never seen a single youtube ad with uBlock Origin. SponsorBlock takes care of most of the sponsored segments that a premium youtube account won’t get rid of.
same here, but even I’m looking to cancel both to avoid supporting a US company and because they’re making my experience worse by having a shitty user experience
I pay for it, also no ads except the sponsor plugs, which are pretty easy to skip. Overall a better experience than the non premium. I don’t live in the USA so my cost is like $5/month.
You don’t get ads. You pay less than double what two premiums cost and your household can share.
I pay for it. No ads. Background playing on mobile, and YouTube music included.
Background playing on mobile
The fact that they put this behind a paywall is enough for me to never pay them a dime.
That’s fair
It used to just work. Then it only worked with a funny work around. Now I don’t care because I pirate their content instead.
I found a neat little workaround that I used for a while. I’d load the video up in my browser, turn the phone on an off a couple times, press play on the lock screen, and enjoy it that way.
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Still works. Just gotta full screen the video and then power off before it kills picture in picture.
And now I’m listening in the background as I type this.
I found a little workaround called Newpipe.
I’ll check it out. Thank you.
I use NewPipe on my phone (and FreeTube on my laptop)
@[email protected] gave me a really good suggestion the other day. If youre on Firefox, it might work for you too :)
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/video-background-play-fix/
I just have the video running on Firefox and can them go to another App / turn off the screen
I’m in a family plan, so when this change hits, going to have to find alternative methods.
I do too but the value is waning. When I try to watch without having logged in and see all the ads, that add some value back
In what scenario are you watching it without being logged in?
Go to a family member’s house and try to show them something on YT.
Cringe in horror at the experience.
I am aware of how bad logged out YouTube is, that’s why don’t do it lol.
Not the person you asked, but I do that sometimes. For instance, when I want to watch a specific video but I don’t want having watched it to affect other video recommendations.
I don’t know if this actually does what I hope it does, but if I happen to watch a video that I don’t want recommendations on in the future, I manually delete the video from my watch history.
I don’t know if that really helps, but at least as a placebo it feels good to do.
If unsure of a video, 1. on desktop open in new tab - if ya don’t want that content/creator click the 3 dots on the main page video and select don’t suggest channel, on phone (just did this a few mins ago) back out of video and since on mobile the home feed doesn’t reset hit the 3 dots etc
I stopped watching YouTube logged in after getting FreeTube on my laptop.
I dont pay for it, use grayjay or firefox with ad block, I have no ads, background playing on mobile and I could care less about YouTube music.
I just pirate it
Pirate… what?
Videos from YouTube
How does one pirate free videos? Is there somebody uploading torrents of YouTube videos?
when all the videos get put behind login walls and drm, perhaps someone will.
I have YouTube premium and have not gotten any ads.
YouTube is fucking garbage.
I don’t care about the ads because it’s fucking garbage, and why would I watch garbage?
I have to hand it to them, they are really good at finding new, innovative ways to make the platform worse.
Deactivated Premium recently. I used their music app when driving – expecting some ads now - nope, it just doesn’t allow running in the background anymore.
Seems like such a hostile thing - I’d like to think running ads would be a positive net income for them. (Now that I think of it - maybe they don’t have it built out into their music service.)
Revanced
This you can even use YouTube Music with it.
If you pay, the platform remains great. I get a discounted YouTube premium membership through my mobile phone company. I think YouTube is great, I never see ads, lots of features.
Just to offer an alternative view.
I pay nothing for YouTube and don’t get ads. YMMV
same here, I use invidious!
yewtu.be FTW!
I get no ads, and I’m not logged in for them to track me and sell my data.
Wow, shilling for YouTube premium and anti-net-neutrality (the “discount through your phone company” part) in one comment.
Is recommending a product that you’re satisfied with “shilling”?
Is there a product in this world that you think is worth the price? Does that make you a shill?
I don’t think that has anything to do with net neutrality
Not allowing ISPs to pick and choose winners among web services is absolutely what Net Neutrality is about. Bundling or discounting subscriptions isn’t technically the same thing as zero-rating, but the end result of making a particular ISP-preferred service cheaper than alternatives is the same.
You’re just trying to piggyback on a vaguely-related concept that your audience already likely hates. Call things what they are, not what would be convenient to you if they were.
“If you just give them your wallet right away, the mugging isn’t so bad, really. They didn’t even kick my teeth in!” 🤓
It’s a product. You can buy it or not. If you don’t think it’s worth it, stay away, or stay on the free tier. You’re acting as if you’ve got some kind of right to use a service that’s provided by a commercial entity.
and it’s a multi-billion dollar corporation, that already makes more money than you or I will ever see in our lifetimes, that actively strives to make the user experience worse for people who don’t pay, when they’ve got a practical monopoly in the “free video sharing platform” market. And you’re whiteknighting for them. 🤡
By Darwin you see a lot. I was merely stating that I think YouTube premium is worth the price I pay for it.
Is there no product you are satisfied with? Your life must be pretty bleak.
more money than you or I will ever see in our lifetimes
I mean, I feel like you need to expand your comparison a little as the amount that you’ll see in your lifetime is such a minute grain of sand on a beech compared to corporate profits. The money they made today, hell, in the last hour… minute… will dwarf the amount that you will likely see.
actively strives to make the user experience worse for people who don’t pay
And evidently those who do! My parents live in a different country. What are they, not my family? What’s the family plan for? (Rhetorical question)
With Vanced I have so many more options to customize my experience. I can hide shorts I never watch, set a fixed resolution for data and wifi, return the stupid dislike ratio they removed… And if I’m using Vanced anyway to fix all the issues they introduce, why on earth would I additionally pay for their service?
I want to pay for their shit, especially to support content creators, but I can’t support a platform whose singular mission it is to make everything worse for everyone constantly. Feels like every month I have to get a new extension to undo some horrible design decision.
I agree that it would make more sense if they called it a “household” plan. That’s clearly what it is.
Vanced
I hope you mean ReVanced, otherwise… bBoy, I’ve got some news for you.
Yeah, sorry, I do. Just never moved on from calling it Vanced haha
whiteknighting
was a weak-ass criticism when it was on 4chan being leveled at anyone who said anything not derogatory about a woman, and it’s weak-ass now. Oh no, someone on the internet has an at-least-partially positive opinion of a company, how awful, we’d better stereotype and body-shame them for it.
If you had your way, the only comments about YouTube - or any other product from a large company - that would be allowed would be negative ones. How the fuck does that make sense?
Well said.
I only simp for Steam.
Gabe and his 300 yachts thanks you.
I’ll join you in the downvotes. There’s many reasons to hate YouTube. Asking them to pay for video content to everyone for free is a bit silly.
I’m also not saying you shouldn’t use alternatives or run an ad-blocker. Those are cool. I just find it funny how someone is saying: “I get some benefit in paying for this service” results in such backlash, lol.
I know. I thought we were upvoting respectful debate, not having a popularity contest. But apparently not…
It’s a “product” that profits billions off other people’s - often stolen - works.
YouTube steals other people’s work?
I tend to watch content creators who willingly put their content on YouTube. Am I missing something here…?
You are missing something. Multiple things actually.
- most content isn’t uploaded by the copyright holder (e.g. TV excerpts)
- demonetized videos will still have ads (at least for people without ad blockers)
- videos are used for machine learning without credit to authors or financial compensation (especially without consent when it’s not the copyright holder uploading them)
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I get the same with firefox and an ad blocker for free
Do you have a means of removing sponsors on the mobile app though? Revanced has sponsorblock and adblock in the app.
You mean removing sponsor led segments inside a video? Sort of. The jump ahead feature, which I think is a premium feature, allows you to jump in the video based on where everywhere else is jumping in the video. So when a sponsored segment starts and you skip forward 30s (double tap on mobile, ‘k’ on PC) you are offered to jump ahead. You click that and you get to the end of the sponsored segment.
Do you pay them or did they pay you?
