• baggachipz@sh.itjust.works
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    6 hours ago

    “This network? It goes to 6.”

    “Is it faster?”

    “Yeah, it’s one faster.”

    “So why not just make 5 the top number, and make 5 faster?”

    “This network goes to 6.”

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    I’ll just be happy if they have basic things like VoIP and emergency call handling properly defined.

    Australia shut down our 2G and 3G networks, and it’s been an absolute dumpster fire.

    A bunch of early 4G phones drop back to 3G for voice calls, but that’s really easy to check for and that’s mostly old phones anyway.

    The real dumpster fire was emergency calls. It turns out there’s phones in the wild with fully functional VoLTE but internal logic that forces them to drop back to 3G or 2G specifically for emergency calls.

    Other phones can make emergency calls, but only on certain networks - a phone will try any available network regardless of SIM card when making emergency calls.

    Or a phone can make emergency calls on any network - but only if it’s running the correct modem firmware version.

    Or it’ll work on any network if it has a Telstra SIM card, but if it has an Optus card it can’t make an emergency call on Telstra because it isn’t running the Telstra-specific VoLTE code anymore.

    The best part is that this emergency call functionality depends on you specifically dialling the emergency number, so there’s no way to test any device other than actually dialling an emergency.

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      Gotta love the non testable features.

      “Can we place a test call?”
      “Why would you want to do THAT?”

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        You can place test calls, but emergency calls are magically handled differently and the only way to trigger that is to make an emergency call.

        Carriers can test phones in their labs, but they have no way to know what modem firmware end users are running. The same hardware sold in different places can have different software images loaded.

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      I wonder if the people has believed the 5g conspiracy fantasies feel remotely foolish

      Obviously are intellectually and or mentally diverse so maybe this was just one more inevitable step to total downfall

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        I wonder if the people has believed the 5g conspiracy fantasies feel remotely foolish

        They don’t. In fact, they don’t believe they were wrong. They’ve cherry-picked their array of half-truths and benign or unprovable conspiracy theories and have never reevaluated since. Or they’ve morphed their beliefs into cheap versions of the nonsense they once took as true.

        Even with the covid vaccine conspiracy theories. They were saying that everyone who took the vaccine would die.

        To maintain their “rightness”, when questioned, they will point to the statistics of the non-zero number of people who did die from taking the vaccine.

        When pointed out that the actual number is much closer to 0 than the 100% that they had been saying in 2021 or so, they will argue that there’s a coverup or something. Or that they didn’t literally mean 100% of people.

        Obviously they meant whatever would make them right. Some people can hardly fathom the fact that they believed something to be incorrect.

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          Instantaneously? I wonder what kind of noise would be made by the simultaneous formation of billions of vacuums and pressure waves? And how loud would it be on aggregate? And would it be enough to wake those who were asleep at the time?

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            It’ll sound like a low rumbling of bubble wrap shifting across the lands.

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              I don’t think there would be much of a pressure change. All the outies would become innie lowering the pressure and all the innies becoming outies would bring it back up.

              Maybe your ears might pop.

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    None of this makes sense!

    With 3G, we had clearly defined speeds, and what constitutes 3G.

    4G mostly defined itself, but it left a bit of grey area.

    Then 5G was posting speeds slower than 4G’s top speed. There was never a defined speed range. The term 5G is nothing more than marketing. It means nothing.

    I haven’t even heard of 6G, but given how shit 5G’s handling went right from the start, I assume 6G has to be inserted anally.

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      It was always meant to be great in dense areas, which it is, but marketers went all apeshit promising that it was going to be the second coming of Christ. Instead they should have shut the marketers ina corner and called it what it is, an enhancement to 4g. That 4g and 5g would hand off interchangeably.

      This is why you should never let business dictate tech. They think they know what they’re talking about but they don’t, and end up pissing everyone off.

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      5G was mostly about cramming more connections into the spectrum and expanding broadcast range (as well as some other things), but it wasn’t just about node speed on the network.

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        And it ended up posting significantly faster speeds in dense areas where they actually deploy the technology. My phone has hit 4Gb/s on it.

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          In a lot of places it got worse. At least I had reliable service inside my house on 2G and 3G. Now that those are gone, I have to use WiFi calling or try to find a spot outside where I may be able to get a bar of 5G if I’m lucky.

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      13 hours ago

      I hate to tell you this, but 3G was a lie too. 3g should have been good to 100mbps.

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    10 hours ago

    This is like whan they came out with 3 and 4 blade razors and then just made all the same mistakes with the Mach 5 and its ilk