I fully agree with you, but you should check out the rest off this thread. I have someone who literally said:

I’m not willing to compromise on my road trip plans.

I’m unwilling to plan out two 20 minute stops in my day long road trip that happens maybe once or twice a year in order to have the lowest maintenance lowest fuel cost vehicle I have ever owned. Not to mention the other two options if you seriously cannot do it. People are so carbrained/gas brained I just can’t even. I will never go back to owning an ICE vehicle, literally why would you?

So we’re just going through the standard propaganda excuses. Since apparently we’re hung up on the probably 1% of driving you do (where you go more than 250 miles in a single day), let’s refer to what I already said above you:

As an EV owner the road trips we take are the vast minority of driving anymore. When we do there are options.

• plan out your route and stops. Requires maybe 15 minutes of planning before your trip. You pick a place with food nearby, get out for 30 minutes, stretch, eat your meal, and you are good until the next meal.
• if you are one of the 80% of households with 2 cars, take the other car for that roadtrip.
• get a rental car for your trip. (Remembering that a couple hundred for a rental car is vastly cheaper than paying for gas for 10+ years)

Your “compromise” feelings are unjustified. Even if you it’s just iMpOsSiBLe to drive your EV on a road trip (it’s not) you can do other things. Like I said, if you’re one of the 80% of North American households who own 2 cars you could take the EV for 99% of your trips, and on the 1% road trips you could… take the other car. If you are like me and only own one car you still have the option to rent a car.

Renting a car is relatively cheap and has the added bonus of not wearing down your car with added miles. Now I lived in the Midwest, I remember family car trips that were long. Driving over multiple states in one day. Those trips were rare, thinking once every few years rare. Maybe once a year. Numbers just make sense, a rental car for that infrequent of a trip is cheaper.

And that’s all assuming that again you just cannot take your EV on a road trip. Which is absolutely false. I did a 800 mile roadtrip just earlier this year.

it’s literally called anxiety, it’s a personal issue. We don’t call a small tank “tank anxiety”. I get a week’s worth of commuting out of a single charge. If you owned one for 10 years then you know you can charge at home, and unless you’re driving literally the max every day, which right now is about 250 miles every day, then range anxiety is a non issue because you just plug it in when you get home.

If you are worried about road trips, then you need to analyze your personal road trip habits. I already spoke elsewhere in this post about options if you roadtrip, but even frequently I highly doubt it’s more than 1% of your total trips.

simply not good enough yet

This thread is full of people telling you the opposite. I own an EV and am telling you it’s the best car I’ve ever had and will never go back. If you don’t believe they’re good enough then you need to analyze why you believe that, because it’s simply not true. If you want to ask me questions about what they are actually like, feel free, but I won’t sit here and help you “feel” better about them when all the facts show that they’re great vehicles to own.

Is your argument both in the same breath that EVs will catch on too quick that all gas stations will disappear in a matter of days and also that EV adoption will not catch on quick enough because charging is too slow?

Good thing I wrote up two other options if it doesn’t work for you. It works perfectly fine on our car trips.

Given their history, data says about 2 years.

The difference is this is one higher, and they get to deprecate the old ones. Yes it’ll all go to landfills, but they’ll get some profit.

Ha, I never thought of it that way but yes, that tracks perfectly. The “inconveniences” of EVs aren’t worse than gas cars, it’s just that the gas car inconveniences are considered “normal” right now.

The fact that so many people don’t think about this or are unaware shows how well the propaganda worked.

Here is a car that is by far the easiest car you’ll ever own, the power to run it is the cheapest you’ll ever see, and 99% of your trips will be within one charge/tank meaning you’ll never need to worry about range ever - but the propaganda convinced them all that that’s a deal breaker.

As an EV owner the road trips we take are the vast minority of driving anymore. When we do there are options.

• plan out your route and stops. Requires maybe 15 minutes of planning before your trip. You pick a place with food nearby, get out for 30 minutes, stretch, eat your meal, and you are good until the next meal.
• if you are one of the 80% of households with 2 cars, take the other car for that roadtrip.
• get a rental car for your trip. (Remembering that a couple hundred for a rental car is vastly cheaper than paying for gas for 10+ years)

Not… The websites…

Why do you think they’re doing ethics promises now? I have a feeling that all the third party models are going to fail the ethics tests and now that nvidia owns huggingface it’ll be very easy to ban them in the states.

Download your models now

I don’t understand how people trust them as a service. They have an extremely well documented history of doing exactly this.

Right? In what world? This year we saw CXMT come online and they claim they’re going to handle most of China’s supply, so that’s a whole fucking country Micron/SK/Samsung are losing on. Then also we’ve seen datacenter buildouts slowing down and not being financed. So supply is going up and demand is going down. Now I’m not a big city economist, but in my books all that points to at minimum not the situation getting worse.

Might Micron be a bit sad they left the consumer market who is frothing at the mouth for RAM?

Yeah it’s a whole lot of nothing. Next they’ll say they discover AWS hosts some if the sites. It seems that they just want CDNs to hash content to take the easy way of flagging it.

That’s the real kicker. CEOs promised full AGI, full autonomy, basically the impossible, and investors invested in that. If they can’t deliver on that impossible goal then they failed their investors. It’s wonderful, except they’ll all get golden parachutes.

Make sure your models are downloaded now folks. Nvidia owns huggingface now

Okay whoever made this bot, it’s annoying af. I’d go look at the home page of pc gamer if I wanted to. Bots can be good. A blind repost bot is annoying.

Good lists of vpn providers would be appreciated.

Yes, that was my point.