Anyone remember xFire? It was better 15 years ago than Discord ever was or will be.
…damn I miss that shit. They were litigated out of existence by a frivolous lawsuit from Yahoo. This is why we can’t have nice things.
I’ll gladly scan a face. I just happen to look exactly like Gale Dekarios
Wow I guess I get to finally dump Discord as my last proprietary chat app.
There are lots of self hosted alternatives like Mattermost, Mumble, and Matrix (decentralized).
There’s also the new Freenet River demo: https://freenet.org/quickstart/
Maybe I’ll make my own discord clone lol.
For ID scans, Discord says that documents “are deleted quickly.”
Just a few months ago they had a data leak which proved that they were indeed /not/ deleting documents and ID’s like they had been claiming.
Granted in that case it was mostly countries that force keeping that data but, I’m sick of companies lying and saying “lol yea we defo delete the data after”
I won’t even give hard drives when recycling a computer, I pull and smash myself. Last set of old drives I cut in half with bolt cutters.
That’s overkill, a couple of passes with dd and it’s irrecoverable.
A couple of passed with dd takes way longer than bolt cutters and it’s much less satisfying
I think they meant you could wipe with dd and then they are recyclable.
Yeah lmao. Wipe one drive at a time with a USB connector. No thanks. I don’t have bulk drive operation equipment and then it ties up a computer doing the work.
They’re 500gb mechanical hard drives with financial data on them. Snip and done. No time wasted, not reusing them.
I’ll scan my ass.
They’ll have a “retina” scan of a brown-eyed cyclops.
I would barely be okay with a bank or government website asking for this information, I sure as shit would not give it to a fucking chat app.
Let’s protect the children by scanning everyone’s face and ID and uploading them to a server that’ll get hacked five years from now.
That sounds more like the Discord I know.
Five years? My, aren’t we optimistic.
And said data will never be used for fake CSAM or a library for the powerful to handpick their next victims
Well, looks like I’m leaving discord.
Sure.
But what are you replacing it with ?
I tried Mumble and Teamspeak in the past and it’s pretty far from the same level of comfort.
Don’t take that the wrong way though, I’m all for supporting open alternatives, I’m just saying you have to think about the features of the alternatives too.
I just saw something about Stoat.chat which seems like a good open source software for that application but a lot of people will have to bear the cost of self hosting these servers.
I know I will think carefully before slamming the door on discord.
Stoat looks promising, open source
Were you trying Teamspeak 6? The UI is different, but the functionality is on par I believe. Not open source, but at least you can self-host.
No. Recently I played a bit using a friends mumble server. And it’s a friend that is already privacy conscious. But these friends are not the norm. They are the exception.
Interesting to see Teamspeak evolved but still you have to pay to host a server so that’s a huge difference.
The thing is do you even need to replace it?
Yes, many of my childhood best friends live a 9 hour flight away.
Well yes, I would say it’s very much an integral part of my social life.
I spend a lot of time with my gamer friends and it revolves around our discord servers.
We even have a discord servers dedicated to our role play sessions.
IMHO Discord is a bit more than just a voice chat app. It’s also rooms with persistant chats. It’s the ability to share media etc.
Also their noise reduction tech is top notch.
I knew when I got in that it would be another “Gmail” for me. It’s great but you have to give a bit of your soul to it and I knew it would enshitify eventually.
Fair enough, while I use discord it is not as big a part of my social life as it is for you. I only have a few servers I am in, and even then I am only active part of the time and not a “super user” by any means.
That is the unfortunate thing about nearly every app/website/software that the enshittification happens sooner than we would like. I’m hoping that this is a bigger non-issue than what it seems based on the announcement, and even then, only time will tell.
For context my country (France) is trying to pass a law that forbids the use of social networks to users younger than 15yo. So I suppose this move from Discord is partly due to that.
Now that being said I would hope the verification process will have much more scrutiny in Europe than it would in the US.
I would definitely not be happy about it but if they are not allowed to keep any of the verification data afterwards it could be “acceptable”. But if I have the feeling they keep any data I will actively look into building a Stoat instance and try the even harder task of convincing my friends to switch over.
I did start a projects aiming to be a more decentralized/federated discord more akin to how IRC was back in the day. Time to revisit it, it seems.
A federation based discord would be amazing !
But still that’s a big challenge as voice chat will be costly to host.
Also out of curiosity do you aim for something that would connect through the fediverse ?
Didn’t have much of an aim beyond trying to cook it up from scratch as a personal research project. That includes the protocol, since I’m handling keys in a creative way to facilitate both encryption and user identity verification.
Maybe this bullshit will be the spark needed to move us all off Discord. It’s fine for voice-chat in games, don’t get me wrong, but I HATE how its replaced forums/wikis for so many games/mods/etc. Searching disparate Discord servers is like looking for a nonferrous straw-colored needle in a haystack.
People are already looking to migrate to checks notes apps exactly like discord.
[cries]
Worse, it also makes it seem like developer support that is provided through Discord needs to be always on/always available since you can be pinged on Discord 24 hours a day. Why would you do that yourself, I don’t know. At least with forums you can choose to respond on your own time frame and people have less recourse to act like you should be around and available. It’s just asking for higher demand from the userbase since you’re chatting with them in real-time, they begin to expect real-time fast responses.
Agreed. As if every company just having a subreddit wasn’t bad enough.
I deleted my account after reading the article they officially released…Chat apps won’t get my phone number or ID, they get hacked and compromised too frequently for me to trust it. It’s total bullshit that they are pushing this shit on the world after trialing it in the UK and Australia. Discord can get fucked, it will suck that I can’t follow the development of games that rely on Discord instead of forums or proper fucking documentation sites. Hopefully, more indies will stop relying on Discord (it’s a rotten crutch) and go back to utilizing Forums in general!
Nice. Now when someone tries to make me use discord, I’ll have a better excuse than “I hate it”
Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult
from the official release.
Sounds like creepy spyware
I wonder if it’ll function like Twitch where you can get tons of people banned all at once by getting them to say they’re under 13.
The restrictions don’t seem very limiting. Why would I ever do this?
Half of Lemmy, for some reason: grr we hate kids!!! Ban them from social media!!!
Lemmy users when platforms start doing as they asked: 😮
Almost like social sites arent monolithic, and different people can be outraged by different things!
For those looking for an alternative, try stoat.chat or matrix
Back to teamspeak or ventrilo
