• pankuleczkapl@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    2·
    30 minutes ago

    I have personally had a lot of issues with pop os on my laptop (related to power management, waking up the WiFi card, overheating leading to a kernel panic, GPU refusing to go to sleep), which disappeared as soon as I installed Endeavour OS.

  • BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world
    31·
    35 minutes ago

    Pop_OS! is fine, even if COSMIC is unrefined. It will get there eventually. Comparing it to Windows is libel.

  • BigPotato@lemmy.world
    2·
    1 hour ago

    Ubuntu on a desktop, mint on an older laptop, and Pop_OS on my daily driver laptop…

    What am I doing wrong here?

  • Norin@lemmy.world
    28·
    4 hours ago

    I’m borderline Linux illiterate and have been using Pop as my daily driver for years without problems.

    I think I’ve had to troubleshoot a major issue exactly one time and that was easy.

      • David_Eight@lemmy.world
        3·
        13 minutes ago

        If its legally required what are their options? I currently use Pop OS, what are my options in that scenario? Like legally speaking how does age verification work?

  • MIXEDUNIVERS@discuss.tchncs.de
    701·
    6 hours ago

    the interessting thing with linus is that he 1. plays the non tech person and 2. has pretty bad luck with linux fetures that are broken or bugs because he stumbles over them to 120%.

    I also like the contrast between Linus and Luke because Luke drives Mint on his Laptop and cachy os on something other and he has very few problems.

  • justdaveisfine@piefed.socialEnglish
    381·
    7 hours ago

    I have a test desktop that I put Pop OS on (when I was testing distros) and it seems fine. I’m not a huge fan of Cosmic so far but its alright.

        • yesman@lemmy.world
          1·
          1 hour ago

          My first distro was Debian and I loved Gnome so much that I’ve never gotten around to trying anything else despite being on my 3rd distro hop.

          I’m an old head and a firm believer in keyboard first computing. And I think an OS’s job is to be invisible until I need it. Gnome get’s out of my way until I summon whatever I need from it with the keyboard. For someone who’s labored under Windows for so long, Gnome is like escaping Plato’s cave.

        • python@lemmy.world
          1·
          1 hour ago

          I like Gnome because it’s very tablet-y by default. Sure, I could make KDE look like that, but who has the time for that?! Plus, not having a desktop is the most effective way to stop me from filling the desktop with unsorted garbage

        • atomicbocks@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          1·
          2 hours ago

          I do. But, I recognize that preference is personal so I try not to shame people for the desktop environment they prefer.

          I’ve tried KDE, and others, multiple times in the last 20 years or so and it’s just never felt as polished to me as Gnome does. When Gnome 3 came out I spent quite a bit of time with Mate because I didn’t like the new Gnome. But eventually I got used to it and it got better.

          Typically, for new Linux users, I recommend Gnome for Mac people and KDE for Windows people.

        • Zaphod@discuss.tchncs.de
          161·
          4 hours ago

          I don’t really get it either. I used gnome once and needed multiple extensions to get functionality that is the default of KDE

          • TrickDacy@lemmy.world
            3·
            3 hours ago

            Even with several random extensions, gnome runs for 6 months for me before having the instability problems I had on KDE in 6 minutes

            • Eldritch@piefed.worldEnglish
              2·
              3 hours ago

              Last time KDE gave me issue was when they switched to Wayland by default I think. And even then that was mostly on me. 🤷‍♀️

              • naught@sh.itjust.works
                2·
                2 hours ago

                KDE for me was death by 1000 cuts. I’d get a notification that I need to reboot my system but clicking the X doesn’t close it. The settings GUI pretty abysmal, but ig when you compare it to Windows it still looks golden. Randomly can’t wake up from sleep sometimes until i restart my display manager from a TTY. The “task manager” didn’t let me see all running tasks… It’s somehow so polished while also being janky.

                Gnome alternatively is all polish, but you have to fight tooth and nail to go beyond defaults. I’m sure it’s more bloated too.

                Now im on Niri with plenty of other problems but at least they’re my fault!

                • Eldritch@piefed.worldEnglish
                  1·
                  2 hours ago

                  I used to get that as well but that was largely due to NVIDIA drivers. Either have to get a tty on the local machine or SSH into it and do a reset. But I haven’t had so much as a peep out of that machine since the Nvsync or Ntsync or whatever it was got merged. I had it happen outside of KDE as well.

                  I remember when KDE first rolled out plasma and the shit show it started out as. That’s when GNOME really blew up. But since the late 5.X and especially 6.5-6 its been solid. They broke off with a lot of those old abandoned themes etc with the 6.X series as well. That would often fail to function and shit the desktop. I haven’t encountered anything like that in the 6.X repos. My biggest gripe with any of them currently is the deskbar macos style that’s poorly exposed and configured. But comes by default from a few distro like garuda. And predictably isn’t consistent. When it works it’s nice. When it doesn’t it’s confusing.

              • TrickDacy@lemmy.world
                1·
                2 hours ago

                I tried to customize the UI and had the DE crash like 5 times in 5 minutes. Took it as a sign. It’s ugly as can be but I was willing to put in some time to fix it but it seems luck was not on my side.

                • Eldritch@piefed.worldEnglish
                  1·
                  1 hour ago

                  GNOME is not meant to be customized. Don’t even try. If your concept of customization goes beyond adding a panel in a different spot. It’s truly asking for grief. Their add-ons/plugins are fairly neat with all the different languages they can be written in etc. But with all the breaking changes that are constantly being done to the API you never know if they’ll be functioning in the next week. It’s part of why pop started Cosmic in the first place. The GNOME team would regularly roll breaking changes with minor point releases.

          • Eldritch@piefed.worldEnglish
            6·
            4 hours ago

            Same. However, if you don’t need that functionality it’s solid. Just definitely not for me.

        • tuxed@sh.itjust.works
          2·
          2 hours ago

          For a media PC GNOME is goated, specifically their overview! One button on the “magic remote” mouse to easily switch between desktops, windows, control basic settings, and launch other applications is awesome. Generally prefer KDE and did choose it this time when reinstalling the media/coach-gaming machine, but really wish there was anything like GNOMEs overview on KDE.

          (Yes, the Plasma overview is awesome, but you can’t launch new apps from it without typing).

          • kunaltyagi@programming.dev
            1·
            3 hours ago

            KDE has a really beauty of a big screen. The tablet mode on my 2 in 1 works well enough but I can’t compare with gnome for obv reasons (I don’t use gnome)

    • jtrek@startrek.website
      2·
      5 hours ago

      Pop!_os has been fine for me. I’m not a tinkerer. It’s a machine for a web browser and video games.

    • Bahnd Rollard@lemmy.world
      2·
      5 hours ago

      Been trying cosmic for a few weeks now, cant say its my jam. Got some hardware upgrades to do sooner or later and want to try something new and will install a new OS around then, open to recomendations.

        • Bahnd Rollard@lemmy.world
          1·
          1 hour ago

          The more recent issues have been fiddly display problems along with multiple instances Proton_GE running at the same time not being reliable as they were in the last version and more broadly it has been issues attempting to get Davinci Resolve to run correctly, but thats going to hopefully be fixed by the hardware upgrades (GPU, switching from an old rx 6700 to a lightly used 3090, there are known compatibility issues with AMD GPUs). Was thinking something Fedora or arch flavored, just for a change of scenery.

      • PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.socialEnglish
        1·
        5 hours ago

        I’m a big fan of Fedora Kinoite, though it does make messing around with things outside of the few system directories they’ve marked RW pretty annoying. Trying to change things in /usr, for instance, is convoluted but not impossible, but I’ve had to go in there less and less over the years to the point that I don’t think I’ve touched it directly in probably 3 or 4 years. That makes the upside of having atomic updates worth it for me.

        Now if only they could figure out how to apply updates without rebooting, that would really be something, but even then I’ve had a lot of bizarre issues happen from applying updates without a reboot on Fedora, so it’s kinda worth it IMO.

        /rant

      • David_Eight@lemmy.world
        1·
        10 minutes ago

        Ummm if anything he’s actually making money lol. Seriously though its crazy that Jake quit because LMG didn’t want to give him a raise, then Linus buys a 5-million dollar jet.

  • TheTechnician27@lemmy.worldEnglish
    132·
    6 hours ago

    I didn’t watch the second video, but assume it’s just: “Hey, let’s see if it’s any better now, since this is what I used last time, and it’s sold preinstalled on commercial hardware.” I don’t like Pop!, but I also think the people arguing he should be using something else – regarding a semi-popular, commercially-backed distro commonly advertised as noob-friendly – are hitting the copium too hard.

    “But he wants to do gaming!” And I never had to install a special version of Windows because I wanted to do digital art. That’s not intentionally making Linux look bad; it’s just not going out of his way to doll it up like a burger in a fast food ad. Plenty of people will want to game but don’t treat it as their entire identity and therefore won’t be looking into “best linux gaming distro 2026 reddit”.

    I liked JayzTwoCents’ video because he has an expert walk him through it and chooses Bazzite since he’s doing it specifically to evaluate gaming, not how good he is at using it. For a video where somebody is trying to assess the state of Linux for a normal user new to Linux, I don’t want an expert hovering over them the entire time, and within reason, I want them to pick what appeals to them.

    I’m over here having a great time on Endeavour, but I got turned off of Linux for years after trying Ubuntu as a daily driver for several months and running into issues constantly. My actual Linux experience was eerily similar to Linus’ first video (it nuked my entire config twice), and I probably would’ve gone back to Ubuntu as a test if I were doing it for an audience and not for myself.

    What happened on Pop! this time, by the way? COSMIC issues?

    • Eldritch@piefed.worldEnglish
      26·
      6 hours ago

      He chooses pop over and over again at the worst times. The beta of cosmic was buggy for his use. And he installed it in the middle of a lanparty no less. That said. He eventually switched to mint same as Luke I think. Luke who has also been using, by the way. And he and Luke have had pretty positive things to say this time. Between windows actively going to shit and Linux continuing to chug along and improve.