KDE for me was death by 1000 cuts. I’d get a notification that I need to reboot my system but clicking the X doesn’t close it. The settings GUI pretty abysmal, but ig when you compare it to Windows it still looks golden. Randomly can’t wake up from sleep sometimes until i restart my display manager from a TTY. The “task manager” didn’t let me see all running tasks… It’s somehow so polished while also being janky.
Gnome alternatively is all polish, but you have to fight tooth and nail to go beyond defaults. I’m sure it’s more bloated too.
Now im on Niri with plenty of other problems but at least they’re my fault!
I used to get that as well but that was largely due to NVIDIA drivers. Either have to get a tty on the local machine or SSH into it and do a reset. But I haven’t had so much as a peep out of that machine since the Nvsync or Ntsync or whatever it was got merged. I had it happen outside of KDE as well.
I remember when KDE first rolled out plasma and the shit show it started out as. That’s when GNOME really blew up. But since the late 5.X and especially 6.5-6 its been solid. They broke off with a lot of those old abandoned themes etc with the 6.X series as well. That would often fail to function and shit the desktop. I haven’t encountered anything like that in the 6.X repos. My biggest gripe with any of them currently is the deskbar macos style that’s poorly exposed and configured. But comes by default from a few distro like garuda. And predictably isn’t consistent. When it works it’s nice. When it doesn’t it’s confusing.
I tried to customize the UI and had the DE crash like 5 times in 5 minutes. Took it as a sign. It’s ugly as can be but I was willing to put in some time to fix it but it seems luck was not on my side.
GNOME is not meant to be customized. Don’t even try. If your concept of customization goes beyond adding a panel in a different spot. It’s truly asking for grief. Their add-ons/plugins are fairly neat with all the different languages they can be written in etc. But with all the breaking changes that are constantly being done to the API you never know if they’ll be functioning in the next week. It’s part of why pop started Cosmic in the first place. The GNOME team would regularly roll breaking changes with minor point releases.
You are saying this to someone with 5 years of routinely changing major UI elements on GNOME and who has rarely had any issues with extensions breaking. Less than once a year.
I think the difference of experience is from how much we think the UI “needs” customizing. If I wanted GNOME to look like windows, I’d probably have had that experience. But that’s absolutely the furthest thing from what I’d ever want.
And before you claim I only use one or two extensions. Nope I’ve used 3-7 at all times.
Last time KDE gave me issue was when they switched to Wayland by default I think. And even then that was mostly on me. 🤷♀️
KDE for me was death by 1000 cuts. I’d get a notification that I need to reboot my system but clicking the X doesn’t close it. The settings GUI pretty abysmal, but ig when you compare it to Windows it still looks golden. Randomly can’t wake up from sleep sometimes until i restart my display manager from a TTY. The “task manager” didn’t let me see all running tasks… It’s somehow so polished while also being janky.
Gnome alternatively is all polish, but you have to fight tooth and nail to go beyond defaults. I’m sure it’s more bloated too.
Now im on Niri with plenty of other problems but at least they’re my fault!
I used to get that as well but that was largely due to NVIDIA drivers. Either have to get a tty on the local machine or SSH into it and do a reset. But I haven’t had so much as a peep out of that machine since the Nvsync or Ntsync or whatever it was got merged. I had it happen outside of KDE as well.
I remember when KDE first rolled out plasma and the shit show it started out as. That’s when GNOME really blew up. But since the late 5.X and especially 6.5-6 its been solid. They broke off with a lot of those old abandoned themes etc with the 6.X series as well. That would often fail to function and shit the desktop. I haven’t encountered anything like that in the 6.X repos. My biggest gripe with any of them currently is the deskbar macos style that’s poorly exposed and configured. But comes by default from a few distro like garuda. And predictably isn’t consistent. When it works it’s nice. When it doesn’t it’s confusing.
I tried to customize the UI and had the DE crash like 5 times in 5 minutes. Took it as a sign. It’s ugly as can be but I was willing to put in some time to fix it but it seems luck was not on my side.
GNOME is not meant to be customized. Don’t even try. If your concept of customization goes beyond adding a panel in a different spot. It’s truly asking for grief. Their add-ons/plugins are fairly neat with all the different languages they can be written in etc. But with all the breaking changes that are constantly being done to the API you never know if they’ll be functioning in the next week. It’s part of why pop started Cosmic in the first place. The GNOME team would regularly roll breaking changes with minor point releases.
You are saying this to someone with 5 years of routinely changing major UI elements on GNOME and who has rarely had any issues with extensions breaking. Less than once a year.
I think the difference of experience is from how much we think the UI “needs” customizing. If I wanted GNOME to look like windows, I’d probably have had that experience. But that’s absolutely the furthest thing from what I’d ever want.
And before you claim I only use one or two extensions. Nope I’ve used 3-7 at all times.