The struggle is worse the older you get.

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    9 hours ago

    “If you legitimately don’t consent to the calories, the body has a way of trying to shut that whole thing down.” - Todd Akin

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    omg guys! this actually works!

    I was just eating a fat burger for lunch and was getting really full. I wasn’t sure how I could finish the rest of it and I just told the calories to fuck off and I was able to finish the whole thing!

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    Jokes on you I got some sort of undiagnosed malabsorption issues and won’t get fat even when I eat burgers and candy and alcohol day after day.

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      Is that country the US? /s

      But seriously, fast food isn’t cheap anymore. It’s cheaper to go to a real sub shop than it is to go to Subway! Or just make food at home.

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        When I vacationned in the US I was always taken aback by how much fast food used to be cheaper than an actual hearthy meal you cook yourself… Unless you forego the protein…

        That’s all sorts of fucked up.

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      I can get a fucking steak dinner for the price a some of the more expensive fast food combos around me. Shit is crazy.

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    Addicted to alcohol: Stop drinking. You can’t control an addiction so you have to completely stop.

    Addicted to cigarettes: Stop smoking. You can’t control an addiction so you have to completely stop.

    Addicted to crack: Stop smoking crack. You can’t control an addiction so you have to completely stop.

    Addicted to food: Must be your fault for being weak-willed. Just don’t consume so much of that thing that you’re addicted to. You can control your addiction. Just stop being a loser…

    The literal solution to every addiction is stop it, cold turkey. One Day At A Time. But you can’t stop eating food. You’ll die.

    So it’s as if an alcoholic has to constantly have just a little alcohol. Or a crackhead has to keep smoking crack, but only every once in a while. No problem, just control yourself…

    I’m sure telling people that they’re pieces of shit for eating food will fix the problem, eventually. We just have to try a little harder.

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      The way chemicals interact with dopamine, some of those substances are a LOT harder than others. You just need to change the food you eat. I found fasting easier than meticulous dieting. I had the willpower and was enable to accept the simplicity of simply not eating.

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        Oh for sure…fasting is waaay easier. That’s kinda my point. Fasting is literally not eating.

        Unfortunately you can’t just do it forever. Well I mean, you can…

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      Thanks for this, I had an idea about food addiction but that explanation puts it in perspective.

      Companies also try to make foods as addictive as possible and as flashy as possible. It’s like avoiding the constant casino ads as a gambling addict, but you had to keep stepping into a casino every week forever and only doing low bets.

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        but you had to keep stepping into a casino every week forever and only doing low bets.

        at least 3 times a day, plus once in a while in between, maybe on your phone.

        good luck not going bankrupt

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      on top of that, if someone is using excess food to “self medicate” issues like… IDK, anxiety? by forcing the body to go from the Sympathetic nervous system response to the Parasympathetic nervous system response… yeah. Fun coping mechanism makes one fat.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sympathetic_nervous_system#Relationship_with_the_parasympathetic_nervous_system

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasympathetic_nervous_system

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      That’s just one approach to addiction. Personally, I think it assumes people are weak with no self-control, which seems to be exactly the argument you’re making.

      The emphasis on abstinence and any exposure at all being a failure might even make binging more likely if someone gives in just a little, as their counter is now reset, so might as well take advantage.

      And the obsession/fascination with the addiction target continues or even gets ramped up.

      I like the moderation approach a lot better. I don’t binge drink every weekend anymore, but if I do feel like having a drink every now and then, I just do instead of spiraling because I need to treat it like some sort of personal failure.

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      I control my addictions by limiting supply. I buy a fifth of bourbon and a case of beer once a month and that’s what I get. If I go on a bender for a week and run out tough shit.

      I don’t have problems with overeating but if I did my strategy would be to have a limited supply of things I don’t have to cook. No chips or soda or sugary bullshit. Just full ingredients that have to be prepped and cooked. When I did cook or order food it would be in an amount that’s appropriate. Add friction between me and the things that are a problem for me so it’s easier to put off consuming them. Maybe that would work. I don’t know.

      I also have an abhorrence for delivery services so that helps too.

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        The bourbon and the case of beer are just empty calories and cancer-causing carcinogens. They’re an escape but there are other escapes out there that won’t harm you.

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          Oooo…Im ready for suggestions too.

          I swear to God if you say something about a runner’s high or something…

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            There are a lot of people switching to different drugs like weed that are less harmful than alcohol. Assuming it’s the mind-altering effects you’re after. Tastiness can maybe be replicated with edibles or infused drinks.

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            Well it’s individual to the person what makes them happy. I had to try a lot of stuff I was meh about to get there.
            If you liked tasting things, why not try your expertise at a chocolate/cheese tasting place. If you enjoyed drunk driving go buy a Tesla which replicates the experience perfectly.

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          I’m open to suggestions. I’ve tried weed but it doesn’t do it for me. Also alcohol lets me have fun socializing instead of just getting stressed out. I’ll take the trade off.

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            Life is not always comfortable but it can get more comfortable provided you make yourself uncomfortable first.

            The more crutch you use, the weaker your muscle to deal with these awkward situations becomes.

            Don’t forget the “why” and ask yourself “what’s the worst that could happen” when you reach for alcohol vs simply talking to people and letting yourself naturally settle.

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    The title isn’t wrong. Losing weight is an extremely simple process.

    Simple doesn’t mean easy, though.

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    If only it were that simple. 😅 Most people know what they should do, the hard part is building habits that actually stick over time.

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    I feel like a lot of people who are addicted to food don’t have much else in their life to keep them excited.

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      Plenty of keep our lives exciting by addictionmaxing. Food, booze, cigarettes, drugs, sex, gambling, shopping, animal hoarding…

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      It’s like any addiction really, easy to slip into even if everything is fine, and when 1 thing goes wrong you turn to it. It literally makes you feel better in the short term and your brain tells you to do it.

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    Every fat person on earth already knows that too much food makes you fat.

    Yet somehow, even armed with this knowledge, we’re all fat.

    Curious.

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        A combination of sugar subsidies, market penetration of transformed food while the food industry figured they could make their customers sugar-addict, the start of GDP and minimum salary drifting away from each other, meaning poor households no longer able to afford quality food, and running through 2 or 3 jobs doesn’t leave you much time to cook.

        So, in a summary: that’s completely a personal responsibility issue.

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          Also, the “low fat” fitness craze started and manufacturers started replacing fat with sugar.

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            And the long trend of decreasing home cooking really gained steam. Homemade food can be delicious, but it is rarely hypersatiable. It’s also more likely to contain things like vegetables (though I’ll admit, I don’t use enough in my household, my wife hates my “could eat it nonstop” veggie and I’m allergic to hers).

            We’ve also increasingly been doing jobs that don’t fulfill a meaningful portion of physical fitness, and as such we’re increasingly underexercised

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    There’s a lot of people in here talking about fitness, fasting, etc. but it really just comes down to calories in, calories out.

    You have to acknowledge what you’re eating and what it does to your body. Calling out yourself, and the foods you eat.

    All you need is:

    1. How many calories in a serving
    2. How big is a serving
    3. How many calories can I have today
    4. Self control
    5. Water
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      Yeah, #4 is the real trick there. Self control, discipline, sacrifice. None of those things are easy. It’s very simple and straightforward yes, but not easy.

      People seem to equate being simple with being easy. Smoking cigarettes? Just stop. Losing money gambling? Just don’t gamble. Alcoholic? Just don’t drink. All very straightforward and clear paths forward, all very difficult for an average person to accomplish.

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      But getting into shape is basically a cheat code. By packing on more muscle you’re increasing the amount of calories your body burns just existing.

      And depending on the workout you can burn an entire meals worth of calories.

      Working out isn’t required to lose weight, but it does make it a hell of a lot easier.

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          Yup, find a good workout plan with a diet plan to go with it and kill two birds with one stone. Although my personal recommendation would be a mix and match with AthleanX (AX-1) as the workout plan and the P90X diet plan.

          And yes, I know that Jeff has some YouTube drama about creating issues to make videos on, but his plans are solid. AX-1 is basically the physical therapy handbook with weights.

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      down to calories in, calories out.

      No it does not. Of course you can, and should of the best of your ability control how much calories, goes in but there is two ends to a digestive system.

      A healthy body evacuate from the other end of the system most the excess calories taked in. If your body doesn’t do that. There is something wrong with it.

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        That is absolutely not true to the point that you’re describing a serious disease as health. A healthy body will generally desire only the amount of calories it has been using or slightly more. A healthy body may use excess calories for muscle building or other constructive activities. But if you are defecating digestible calories, you need to speak to a physician (though you’re only likely to learn about this via a stool analysis). This is famously one of the more dangerous symptoms of advanced crohns disease, but it could be an issue of any number of disorders of the digestive system.

        The human body has varied efficiencies of calorie absorption, some people have less or more efficient bodies. If you can’t gain weight when honest calorie counting and genuinely increasing your intake, maybe you just have a weirdly variable metabolism, but you may find difficulty doing things that require extra calories like recovering from injury or illness or building muscle.