• UnculturedSwine@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    These are the same people who unironically freaked out about Obama wearing a tan suit and asking for brown mustard on his meal.

    Edit: apparently my autocorrect doesn’t think unironically is a word

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    There’s a conservative mod who’s following me around. He stalks my account and comments on my stuff with his sock puppets. Dude. Is. OBSESSED. He’s convinced I’m downvoting him despite being banned from all his comms that get zero traffic. He’s convinced every troll he runs into is me and that I have all these accounts to make him look bad but he manages that all on his own.

    DJMS, I know you’re out there, I pity you.

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    My Alex Jones listening co-worker claimed I had TDS. He was all big on Trump as the Epstein Files were gonna be released, the economy was going to have all the factories returned to America,food would be cheaper…

    I just bit my tongue and said nothing.

    Now, with his wife’s medical needs so severe that he’s got almost nothing left at the end of each month, he says to me “How come we can’t get an affordable medical system that covers everyone completely…” to which I said, “Well, we could have that and be like every other civilized nation on Earth, but that’s ‘socialism’ after all and we can’t have that… I mean isn’t that what your right wing radio says?”

    He’s gotten awfully silent about lots of that stuff now and I mentioned Epstein files being not released and he lost his shit over it. I told him that there was no more “deep state” it was the State now, and is right there in Washington DC and in your face. He is no longer disagreeing with that assessment.

    I think that the reality of the situation is breaking through the Trump Delusion Syndrome a lot of these die-hards had and they are starting to see what really is going on and they’re pissed and silently fuming about it now.

    My co-worker took the vinyl “1776” stickers with the tattered flag backgrounds off of his truck and lost all his Trump swag as well.

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      I think that the reality of the situation is breaking through the Trump Delusion Syndrome a lot of these die-hards had and they are starting to see what really is going on and they’re pissed and silently fuming about it now.

      The fundamental problem with this logic is that anyone dumb enough to have fallen for this in the first place (and to vote for Trump again in 2024) is more than dumb enough to fall victim to all the nonsense of the next election. There’s no way this momentary glimmer of rationality will survive an election campaign, and the utterly broken epistemology of these people is no closer to being fixed.

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      People won’t see anything beyond their front door until pain comes knocking. They cannot even think to see things from another person’s view nor have empathy or understanding of anyone but themselves. Fuck all of them.

      Don’t talk shit until you’ve walked a mile in someone else’s shoes, then you’ll be a mile away and they’ll have no shoes.

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      Your story doesn’t seem credible to me because my experience with MAGA is they tend to double down in a crisis.

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        Some do until they don’t. I was a pretty devout convinced JW into my 30s, with the few doubts I had (I never hated gay people, but still bought the “it’s not a sin to be gay, it’s a sin to act on it” line) being suppressed by my assuming God knew better than me or that since God made the earth he gets to make the rules.

        I also enjoyed science but kept brainwashing myself to allow for science and the creation belief (not young earth, maybe dinosaurs were just a preparatory stage, maybe God guided evolution, etc), but eventually a joke on Futurama mocked the moving goalposts of missing link arguments and it kinda broke the floodgates.

        This man is experiencing personal issues that affect him directly, which makes it harder to rationalize away. It’s how some people leave stuff like religion: a bad thing happens to them personally and God in no way helps, so the doubts start breaking through the stubbornness.

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      These people think that because they’re white and Trump is white that Trump is talking to them and not about them.

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        Reality is crashing in and with the number of these folks on assistance that Trump has cut, it’s only going to get worse.

        My prediction is that if you still see a die-hard Trumper like in the photo, it’s actually someone wealthy that’s cosplaying.

        The majority of Trump supporters generally don’t have two pennies to rub together, and given what’s going on in DC right now, they probably don’t have that anymore and they’re pissed…

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          I’m glad people like your coworker have the mental bandwidth to realize who’s causing their problems, but I’m worried a large number continue to blame the evil libs, migrants, or just aren’t personally affected enough to realize anything changed.

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          I have a really hard time believing that reality is crashing in on them. The most fucked up and shitty state by pretty much every measure is Oklahoma.

          Oklahoma is the only state in the US were Trump won every single county.

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          God, i really hope many of them suffer badly.

          Homeless and on the streets is the fate they deserve.

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            I do too. It sounds bad, but it’s the only way they’ll learn anything. I hope they lose everything for treating people this way for the last fucking decade.

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      good on him for actually changing his mind.

      ive personally seen motherfuckers get fucked even harder and still being passionately fascist. many many times.

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      I have one close friend that told me yesterday he was “one of those guys that voted for Trump and regrets it” I was so proud I could cry.

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        The question is he going to do it again for the next charaltain that offers him mean, easy answers that just hurt everyone?

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          Only time will tell, but deep down I think his mind is changed. We didn’t have any local elections with everyone else but I’d be surprised if he doesn’t vote blue next time.

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    It’s crazy the mental gymnastics humans are capable of when it threatens their idea of the world and their place in it.

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      I’ve repeated this one too many times.

      After the pussy grabber tape came out, a Conservative woman went on The View TV show to defend Trump.

      One of the other panelists kept repeating the word ‘pussy.’

      Finally, the Conservative woman had to ask her to stop using that offensive term.

      Pretzel logic repeated for a decade.

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      He literally called his followers idiots and told them he loved the uneducated. So no he didn’t convince them they are smart. He let them know it was okay to be stupid.

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        The implication was that they’re smarter than “the educated.”

        Edit: Here’s the full quote:

        We won with young. We won with old. We won with highly educated. We won with poorly educated. I love the poorly educated. We’re the smartest people, we’re the most loyal people, and you know what I’m happy about? Because I’ve been saying it for a long time. 46% were the Hispanics—46%, No. 1 one with Hispanics. I’m really happy about that.

        It’s an old fascist saw that folk wisdom is better than book-learning.

        From They Thought They Were Free- the Germans, 1933-45:

        Because the mass movement of Nazism was nonintellectual in the beginning, when it was only practice, it had to be anti- intellectual before it could be theoretical. What Mussolini’s official philosopher, Giovanni Gentile, said of Fascism could have been better said of Nazi theory: “We think with our blood.” Expertness in thinking, exemplified by the professor, by the high-school teacher, and even by the grammar- school teacher in the village, had to deny the Nazi views of history, economics, literature, art, philosophy, politics, biology, and education itself.

        Thus Nazism, as it proceeded from practice to theory, had to deny expertness in thinking and then (this second process was never completed), in order to fill the vacuum, had to establish expert thinking of its own— that is, to find men of inferior or irresponsible caliber whose views conformed dishonestly or, worse yet, honestly to the Party line. The nonpolitical pastor satisfied Nazi requirements by being nonpolitical. But the nonpolitical schoolmaster was, by the very virtue of being nonpolitical, a dangerous man from the first. He himself would not rebel, nor would he, if he could help it, teach rebellion; but he could not help being dangerous— not if he went on teaching what was true. In order to be a theory and not just a practice, National Socialism required the destruction of academic independence.

        In the years of its rise the movement little by little brought the community’s attitude toward the teacher around from respect and envy to resentment, from trust and fear to suspicion. The development seems to have been inherent; it needed no planning and had none. As the Nazi emphasis on nonintellectual virtues (patriotism, loyalty, duty, purity, labor, simplicity, “blood,” “folk- ishness”) seeped through Germany, elevating the self-esteem of the “little man,” the academic profession was pushed from the very center to the very periphery of society.

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    I think it’s simply impossible for reasonably rational people to understand this peculiar cult of personality. You either need people who are crazy themselves or psychologists to even begin to understand the motives behind it.

    Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t think political interest or commitment to a cause can explain these people’s complete loss of touch with reality.

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    If this guy was a twelve year old girl, and Trump was a hundred years younger and in a boy band, this would be acceptable.

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      “Trump” and “twelve year old girl” should not be said in the same sentence