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    I honestly don’t understand the houses going up in my neighborhood - it’s getting gentrified and what is being built is so ugly. Who is buying these ugly ass houses for 1.5 MILLION dollars? If that was my budget I’d build something beautiful with a big porch like this picture, but all the “luxury” homes are boxes with big garages in front. I look at them on Zillow and they aren’t even pretty on the inside.

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      I work for a city that’s an enclave for the mega-rich and is going through hyper-gentrification. People are buying 3 million dollar houses, tearing them down, and building 15 million-dollar houses.

      It’s the 1%ers being pushed out by the .01%ers. It’s a whole different planet.

      But the contractors still suck and cut every corner they can, so it really is the same anywhere you go.

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      What other choice do people have? My options around here are 100 year old failing cardboard houses, or overpriced stupid Zillow Grey boxes. It’s that or just abandon my family.

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        If you have the budget to buy the ugly box, you have the budget to buy the cardboard house, knock it down and build something you like that isn’t so enormous. We didn’t have the budget for either so are just slowly renovating and hardening the house we bought.

        My point isn’t that houses are too expensive - that is beyond question at this point. Even your cardboard box would cost too much now for most anybody. What I do not understand is rich people buying ugly prefabricated stuff in general. I would use that budget for something bespoke.

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          I know two people who were dead set on building a house who then gave up on it because it was too expensive. Just massively overpriced. Better to just buy an existing home

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      New builds really bug me too. They’re so pricey and big, yet the developers keep putting them on postage stamp lots. Like, who wants to spend that much money on a freestanding house while being so crammed together that you might as well be sharing walls?

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        Yeah that happens here because they are knocking down one house and building two. I don’t really disagree with that, honestly. But they don’t need to be that big.

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    Small houses can be scary, too! My living room when I moved in back in October (not a joke):

    And there’s so much more!

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    You have to own the house to have it be haunted. So boomers are kinda the least generation of people to be haunted.

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    We figured out how to install gas lines appropriately. Many “ghosts” were gas inhalation induced hallucinations.

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    We don’t build houses like that anymore because it would cost a fortune. That’s a lot of man-hours of intricate, custom woodworking right there, and that don’t come cheap.

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      You used to be able to buy similar homes from a sears catalog and put it together yourself. Maybe not quite as much detail, but still a lot more than you’d find anything on the market in the last 40 years.

      Btw $753 adjusted from 1913 is only around 25k.

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        For some reason the thought of mail ordering a house from Sears has always seemed a weirdly comforting, once affordable American thing to me. Living in the western Chicago suburbs, I understand that there are several still standing in this party of the country.

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          I actually live in one that was built in the 30s. They’re actually really well built since they used truss plates for all the framing, plus the quality of the wood from back then is night and day compared to the stuff you can get now.

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        only around 25k

        For materials cost alone, mind you – not including any labor you hire out in constructing it, and not including the land to put it on.

        (And I’m guessing that 25k doesn’t include any electrical, certainly not any HVAC, and maybe not even any indoor plumbing…)

        Still, building codes and inspections aside, I think it could be a decent idea even in modern times to have mass-produced, mail-order house construction kits available. Trailer homes have kind of absorbed most of that niche, but they’re not as well insulated or as long-lasting as real houses.

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          For materials cost alone, mind you – not including any labor you hire out in constructing it, and not including the land to put it on.

          These were typically put together by farming communities, kinda like a barn raising. Even if you had one of these put together for you, it’s not like labour was a huge expense back then.

          And I’m guessing that 25k doesn’t include any electrical, certainly not any HVAC, and maybe not even any indoor plumbing…)

          It’s hard to make out, but in the link I posted you can see the add one that includes things like heating, electrical, plumbing, or different roofing materials. The additions are pretty affordable as well.

          Still, building codes and inspections aside, I think it could be a decent idea even in modern times to have mass-produced, mail-order house construction kits available.

          It was a pretty lucrative business for sears until the great depression hit. Unfortunately it was their mortgage side of the operation that forced them under. It would be interesting to see how they would operate today. The quality is great, I live in one from the early 30s and the bones are still rock solid.

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      In a way it has. Lumber harvested today is from much younger trees made to grow fast, so they have fewer rings and each ring is wider. Compared to older lumber that was often harvested from natural growth forests which is of course unsustainable, but is stronger and more dimensionally stable than new lumber.

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    Eureka, CA has a ton of houses like this. It was the west coast lumber capital for a while, making a lot of millionaires who wanted extravagant wood houses

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      I put in about 40hrs a year on scraping and painting and the total building envelope is only 160m2, and is much less detailed.

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      It’s really not that bad except the paint job every 10-20 years which costs as much as a new car, but back in the day they had oil paint which didn’t peel like latex does. Still, imo, worth it to live in an historic, unique, drag queen of a home.

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      As someone with an old wooden house, it’s actually not bad. They’re built so damn well that they just… stay there.

      The expensive part is if you need to do any renovations. Updating electrical, plumbing, and HVAC sucks.

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      The looks you get when you tell your contractor you want plaster, not drywall.

      They had to find a guy who still knew how to do plaster walls when we redid our bathroom. He was well past retirement age.

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    I wonder if older houses seem more “hauntable” simply because they were built to facilitate air flow within them. Before air conditioning, homes had to be built to allow air to naturally circulate. Thought was placed into room, door, and window layouts to encourage air flow throughout the home, windows were designed to fully open, and transom windows allowed air flow even when doors were closed.

    The point is that old homes were built to allow air flow. This means that there’s more opportunity for doors to randomly close and other things to be disturbed by the wind. Older homes also weren’t as sealed and insulated as well. They were designed assuming that some of the structure would get wet and then dry out. Older buildings were designed to undergo constant moisture cycling, while newer buildings try to seal out moisture all together. More dramatic changes in lumber moisture content means more creaks, groans, and other ghostly noises.

    Simply because of how buildings science has evolved, it’s possible that older homes just more readily produce “haunting” sounds than modern ones.