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  • Kind of but not as much as you might hope. Most of the time when telcos add more capacity to a fiber route they are either pulling more fiber through existing conduit or laying new ones along the same path. Being able to shoot farther is great if you’re building an entirely new route and can plan out your regen locations accordingly but not as helpful if you’re using the same huts on the side of road that were designed for shorter distances. They already have land and/or lease agreements, power, access, and all the other required infrastructure in place using shorter distance calculations. It would be expensive, and probably impossible in many cases, to set up new regen points along their existing routes.

    Then there’s the added expense of testing, certifying, stocking, and training people how to use all this new gear, which probably has longer lead times to acquire. Add all that up and a 40% reach boost isn’t quite as enticing. That’s not to say it won’t be done in some cases. I believe some subsea cables use hollow core fiber and added reach in a situation like that is awesome. I just think most of them would rather invest in improving reach on the glass they already have in the ground than going with something like this.


  • That’s pretty cool, but it isn’t going to help AI data centers get bandwidth faster any time soon. Most fiber in the ground today, especially the kind of long haul fiber being discussed here, isn’t hollow core. Laying new fiber across the country is arguably just as difficult and expensive as building these AI data centers and it’s spread out over very long distances. It costs more than $1/ft to lay relatively cheap fiber in rural areas with no permitting fees and it only gets more expensive from there. Fiber builds between major US cities cost hundreds of millions of dollars.

    Additionally, glass based fiber can do these same speeds and even higher today. Granted, this reach is about 40% longer on average at 200 km without a regen, but that doesn’t save network operators as much money as it sounds like it would. Not enough to justify overbuilding their entire network with hollow core fiber, that’s for sure.






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    17 days ago

    Not all data centers are for AI. Practically anything you do on the internet lives or transits through a data center. A very serious answer to your question is simply “the internet”. AI data centers are just bigger and more dense than the ones that have been around for a long time.









  • First, I never intended to get this far into a debate on this topic. My original comment was meant as a somewhat dark joke (“no one would want to see that anyway” being the subtext) that everyone took super seriously and I like to go with the conversational flow so now here we are.

    Second, I don’t think framing someone for sexual abuse of a minor is in the same category as fake nudes. No one is going to prison (under current laws) for possessing nude pictures as long as both parties are in the same age cohort from a legal perspective. That’s a pretty significant distinction in my opinion.

    Third, I don’t believe I said or implied that fake images cannot cause harm. I said on more than one occasion that you can only control your reaction to them. The fact that they were created and distributed without your consent sucks, but what are you going to do about that after the fact? I’m a very utilitarian person and I see no utility in feeling sorry for myself so that’s not a behavior I generally engage in. Other people probably feel differently about that and that’s fine. I might seem cold to them and they might seem whiny to me. Different strokes.

    You don’t know me so starting a rumor about me might be harder without a personal connection to my social circle, but most fake nude stories I’ve heard about are within schools where both parties know each other and are similar ages. That’s functionally very similar to a rumor except there’s a compelling reason to believe the person saying it’s fake now that AI image generators are a thing. Yes, it still sucks, but people making stuff up is also not new. Humans lie and that’s a part of life that most people have serious encounters with at one point or another. I don’t know that I think deep fakes are any more or less damaging than the other forms of that behavior that have historically been common. You might be on to something in regards to CSM but there’s parallels to other kinds of false accusations in that area as well.




  • I didn’t say they should be free to do it. I said the only part of that situation you can control is your own reaction. If people don’t believe you when you say they’re fake then those people are assholes just like the people who made the fakes. That doesn’t mean you should spend your time being upset by it all. That’s the goal of the people who did it.

    This isn’t situationally different than people spreading rumors about you. Those you care about should believe you when you say it isn’t true. If they don’t then you have a problem that’s not related to the situation you find yourself in.