• InvalidName2@lemmy.zip
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    I’ve been waiting for this controller for a while. Hoping it’s even remotely close to my expectations.

    I’m so ready to turn the page on the crappy PS4 Pro controller I bought a few years back that developed charging and battery issues and become unreliable. Regardless of what Lemmy trolls want me to believe, I feel like a 2.5 year life span for a premium Sony controller was a rip-off.

    I like the fact that the analog sticks are symmetrical in placement (compared to XBOX). So really, I’m just hoping that the batteries and connectors in these are more reliable than the poor quality crap that Sony puts out.

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      Regardless of what Lemmy trolls want me to believe, I feel like a 2.5 year life span for a premium Sony controller was a rip-off.

      No, you’re right. That’s a fucking ripoff

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    Probably the only thing out of their new hardware lineup that has any chance of being released in the near future.

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          I have an Index and it was 100% worth the price. I used to play a variety of games (Half Life Alyx, Synth Riders and Until You Fall were my favorites) and then I discovered modded Skyrim. A couple years later and my mind is still blown every time I put my headset on and get to wander around Skyrim, look up at the mountains and sunsets, stealth through caves so dark I can barely see a thing, slay dragons using realistic archery where I have to reach back to get an arrow for every shot and actually aim my bow down the arrow, sword fighting involves more than just mashing attack and block, and I can cast spells with hand gestures. I sometimes go months without playing and then wonder why I stopped when I load back into it. I have to set a timer because I lose myself in VR and will play for hours and hours. Sometimes I turn it on and just go somewhere sit down and look at the scenery or watch the NPCs going about their lives.

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      Yeah. Damn shame, but if they released the steam machine or frame at the moment, the price would probably have to be at the point it would ensure the product didn’t have a chance to catch on. Pity, I kind of want a steam frame.

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        I mean I guarantee the timing is no coincidence with the chinese ram market crashing

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        How do you come to this conclusion? The controller doesn’t have a GPU or lots of memory and expensive space. So from that angle of view, the controller can be priced normally as it would be years ago. The first Steam Controller was priced at 50 Euros at launch, if I remember right. The controller will absolutely be not 100 Dollars or more expensive. 60 Dollars is very likely, if we are lucky even less. If they we have bad luck, then it will be 70.

        Can you tell me why there is “no chance its less”?

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          The current global economy. Even regular brand name console controllers have increased to a minimum of $70 brand new, not on sale. With the specialized touchpads on the Steam controller, and with other present features, I don’t see them selling this at a loss. The old Steam Controller launched at ~$50 in 2015. Before the idea of “premium game controllers” was common. Now every product is “premium.” Not to mention higher launch prices potentially dissuade scalpers afraid to lose too much when inventory and availability isnt a problem, like how the Steam Deck roll out happened.

          I don’t see any chance at the controller being less than $100. I certainly hope it is $50, but I don’t believe we will ever see those low numbers again until after a global economic crash causes a reset.

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    I still hold firm that the first steam controller is GOATed and it only failed because the world wasn’t ready for it yet.

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      I agree, although I believe it was:

      60% society not ready for the awesome

      40% people with small hands

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        This. Fuck SCUF and their owners Corsair

        Back buttons are an obvious modification kf previous designs; they aren’t patentable.

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      I felt like replacing one of the two sticks with a trackpad just ended up being the worst of both worlds. You don’t get the accuracy of using a mouse and you don’t get any of the design benefits of having twin sticks. The vast majority of controller supported games are designed with twin sticks in mind. Crimson Desert is a great example from recent memory because I can’t imagine doing circular motions on the right trackpad, which is what you need to do for one skill and the fishing minigame. My thumbs are too lazy for that. But with a stick that’s easy enough to do. Overall fighting games are harder, flying games are harder, twin-stick shooters are almost impossible. Any game that requires some stick-like movements from the right stick instantly get harder to play.

      I’m not hating on the Steam Controller, there were quite a lot of innovations I would’ve loved with twin stick controller. The return of the twin sticks is the main reason I’m excited for the controller. I’m also happy with the Dpad coming back because I always felt that was also somewhat clunky on the first controller. Overall I think this one might end up being GOATed.

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      I still have mine and I agree. Though I do like the changes on this new one to more mirror the steamdeck.

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        I wish I could get an original one, but the new one being in line with the deck is great because the deck is ergonomic as duck!

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      I have it. The original Steam Controller is not really a good controller in my opinion. It has huge flaws, such as holding it for longer period of time starts hurting my hands, the missing dpad and missing second stick, and the weird sound it makes when using the touchpads.

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      Mostly yes, but it wasn’t flawless. Those trackpads are quite loud (compared to the Deck), the ABXY buttons are a bit too small and awkwardly placed, and there are just many times that I want a second thumbstick. Also it lacks touch-to-engage for the gyro but that’s a newer invention.

      I think the most impressive innovation came from pairing it with Steam Input. That system is still wildly underappreciated; it’s what lets you turn the trackpads into things like custom radial menus.

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        There was touch-to-engage with the gyros tied to the touchpads, I still use it today. Unless I’m not understanding what that means.

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          Oh, maybe they added it later! Pretty cool if so. It just means you can tilt the controller without affecting the gyro until your thumbs are on the pads or joysticks. It’s configurable on the Deck.

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        What do you use it for? The only game I found that worked really well was Metroid Prime (after a ton of tweaking)

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      The thing that killed it for me is that the touch pads were just terrible as replacements for the dpad and right analog stick

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    Do you think there be anywhere likely to have one out for display so I can have a feel of it?

    I really want one but if its even slightly over £40 (which it obviously will be) I’ll need to be damn sure its comfortable to me before I can justify buying it.

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    I’m excited… I probably wasn’t going to get the steam cube even before the hike in prices for RAM but if this works with Linux and is reasonably priced, I’ll probably get it. Hope it comes out soon.