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Once again associating sexual submissiveness with immorality and stupidity. Y’all really just can’t say they’re bad people for who they are for some reason, it’s always about reaffirming attacks on other groups. It’s misogynistic, it’s queerphobic, it’s ableist, and it says so little about what the actual problem is. It actually diverts attention away from the actual problem which is people with a material interest in subscribing to this system and its violence.
Yes daddy isn’t always meant to be sexual. It’s something they literally said themselves, like "Daddy’s home!” and “Daddy Don!” at a rally. See https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/24/tucker-carlson-trump-rally-spanking
In this case we mean it more like childlike belief that your “daddy” is always right and a big strong hero who can’t lose. Usually people grow out of it, but a lot of the right don’t seemed to have matured in this way. People like Alex Jones also associates the “daddy” as his rightful place as a ruler of a household, and has gone into rants during the pandemic because some vaccine commercial dared to suggest the children might understand something better than “daddy” and may teach “daddy” something.
Atheists use the term in a similar way when they say “sky daddy.” Do you also think that just means a sexual submission kink?
Are you really offended by this meme on behalf of subs? Thats pretty far from the point dont you think?
One of the first things Trump did his first term was gut the USDA’s rural investment arm. Why? Because if his supporters were made poorer and more frustrated they would blame it on someone else and be more likely to turn out to vote. It worked. Probably doesn’t help Fox didn’t report on it.
Yea. It’s like some kind of masochism but like without the self awareness.
I’m partial to this version:
That guy must really love Cookie Clicker.
Yeah the homeless are buying his ballroom, nametags for existing institutions, and his crypto scams
the problem extends much further beyond trump, sadly!
Yep. At least 535 heads deep just at the capitol
Because it’s never about money. If we take each billionaire and distribute their wealth equally, I’ll be like $1000/person. It could be life changing for some, but in reality it won’t change much.
Here’s the good shit you might not be ready for: Money should be abolished completely.
Money is basically a tool we use to allocate finite resources, but we can come up with a much better alternative.
To begin with, food, shelter, healthcare, water and education should all be provided to every single person of the world as a matter of priority. There is no practical reason for these things to be artificially scarce, we already have enough for everyone, but the profit motive gets in the way.
For things which are genuinely scarce, we could handle in a lot of different ways. We could centrally manage it, (which personally I wouldn’t really recommend, as that centralizes power) or we could have a series of industrial unions which are responsible for the management and distribution.
Money is a completely failed conceit of distributing our resources and labor to where they are most needed. It actively prevents the flow of resources to where they are needed. Capitalism is an evil system and it has to go.
@grok perform reality check
Capitalism is an evil system and it has to go.
Yes. And?
I’m not sure what you’re asking me here, sorry, I’m a bit confused by your comment, I don’t use Twitter.
US billionaires have $1.5 trillion in assets. Firstly if distributed across 350m Americans this would be $4.2k.
But in no way would the assets or wealth be liquidated in such a stupid manner.
Taking a percentage of this would provide universal health in the US whilst maintaining the golden egg.
Don’t forget that the wealth was and is extracted not only from the US, which leaves everyone with nothing
This is such a great point. People often like to say, “distributing all of their wealth wouldn’t make everyone significantly richer.”
No, that’s not the goal of wealth redistribution. We aren’t trying to make everyone billionaires. We are trying to eliminate the existence of greedy people who have abused others to the point where they are hoarding an obscene amount of wealth and an undue amount of influence that comes with wealth.
Like the only way to get ahead in America is through blatant corruption/nepotism. From Hollywood to Congress to the Chamber of Commerce. You need to be a handpicked part of the elites to do anything.
Ordinary people are being excluded from operating small businesses bc they cannot compete with billionaires. Ordinary people cannot buy homes because the billionaires are profiting off of keeping them inaccessible.
After we told the King of England to kick rocks, America crowned its new aristocracy- the Epstein class!
If we eradicated the gluttons like Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos, small men with tiny dicks who think they are big boys running the world, it would give ordinary people a chance to compete again. GET RID OF THEM ALL. All pedo billionaires must go
Idk whether you are agreeing with me ironically, but I am going to agree with you unironically
You can improve the comic by removing the labels on the peasants’ shirts.
I have read an entire book about authoritarian personality research. This meme is accurate as labelled.
If the intent is to convey a political message and contribute in a small way to changing some people’s minds, removing the labels could result in some right-wingers giving more thought to the actual content of the comic instead of automatically seeing it as an attack on them and ignoring it.
My guy this is internal memes. Everyone here is some degree of left
Eastcoastitnotes (original comic creator) is a redditor. I’m sure this has been posted in several places across the internet.
Respectfully, that’s not how you change people’s minds. You change people’s minds by pitching an idea exactly in the grey area of their uncertainty, to where they aren’t sure how they feel yet and they’re receptive to a new thought.
Broad shifts in perspective are rare and highly individual, memes just aren’t reliably going to be the pliers you use to pull that tooth. Usually people need direct experiences with the ‘other’ to soften on their hardline stances.
Could the “unreliable memes” fall under being counterproductive?
Memes are usually working in layers of irony, so, all of them are either unreliable (and funny) or they’re just infographics in meme form.
Holy smokes these comments
What is it that you’re finding surprising?
Ummm. The comments?
Lmao
Yeah I gathered that much, I mean what specifically about the comments? Which comments? Are there themes you find surprising? Or what?
I guarantee you that it’s both the left and the right.
Do you mean that the democrats and the republicans are both owned and controlled by the ruling elite? I’d agree with that, for sure. If that’s not what you mean, what do you mean?
I guarantee you that you think unhoused and immigrant folks are the reason for all your problems.
No. The government is the problem. They enable everyone to act in their own worst interests.
Is this leftist government in the room with us right now?
One retired medicare recipient had $800m of our money (on paper, not in actual fact).
What? XD
Parties who label themself as “left” and “right” always serve the rich class.
“Left” and “right” are not synonymous with “democrat” and “republican.”
Can you explain how?
I think what they’re referring to is how the ruling class likes using the “right vs left” rhetoric to distract us from the “ruling class vs. Working class” / class consciousness rhetoric. It’s an effective way to keep us divided.
That being said, the right wing people are being used as pawns by the ruling class to sow that division whereas the left-wing people tend to be more class-conscious. What this person is specifically referring to, though, is the tendency for the democratic party (a capitalist party) to be called “left” when they are not.
Correct me if I’m wrong tho
Which is incredibly stupid considering only one of the 2 sides is unwilling to unite
Yeah pretty much!
Yeah I guessed as much too, but I wanted to be sure so I could tailor my response to the individual, we need to meet people where they are and help them reach the next step on the ladder to class consciousness.
There’s also the chance that they’re already firmly on the left, but just don’t believe in electoralism for example, which is a different conversation to have
Good reply though, thanks for sharing! <3
Totally fair! :)
You have the IQ of a shoe
… Okay but left shoe or right shoe?
Definitely right in this situation
Damn, not even a pair of shoes.
Two sides of the same coin
i love politics in my shitpost com
i’m genuinely sorry if this post darkened your day, I don’t like upsetting people unnecessarily and I totally understand that it can be exhausting, but for me, it’s not just politics, there is a solid chunk of the world who want me to suffer and die, and I need to do everything in my power to try and build momentum to remove those people from power.
much love & solidarity to you
Just post your political stuff in a political memes community. Posting this relentless depressing shit here does not make me want you to suffer less, I can tell you that, no matter how much “love and solidarity” you follow it up with.
The pain and discomfort we feel from being confronted with reality can be depressing when we feel powerless to change it, but we aren’t powerless. We can change it. But to change it, we need to raise awareness of the issue, and we need to raise class consciousness. I’m sorry to hear that you want me to suffer, but I’ll take it for the opportunity to help others gain more class consciousness, because that is how we build a revolution.
Literally nobody on this website was unaware of what was in this comic strip, and how dare you tell me under what conditions I feel what I feel?
Maybe, maybe not, but this post has sparked discussions in the comments where people are learning about class consciousness, so IMO, it’s a good thing.
I’m sorry that you’re feeling depressed and I hate that I added to that, and I’m sorry for assuming - would you like to explain what you’re feeling and why? I would gladly be a sympathetic ear, and we could maybe work together to find something hopeful amongst it all?
Much love & solidarity
You have demonstrated yourself as wholly unsuitable for that task, and your wishes of “love and solidarity” sound condescending at best. The socialist equivalent of “I’ll pray for you.”
But I am not feeling depressed; I merely find the incessant deluge of heavy content in a community supposed to be for lighthearted shit to be depressing.
But I am not feeling depressed; I merely find the incessant deluge of heavy content in a community supposed to be for lighthearted shit to be depressing.
Life is suffering, dear friend… but your suffering has brightened my day, thank you for sharing your sads
I’m sorry you feel that way, and your feelings are totally valid. I promise I’m being completely authentic, I care deeply about trying to reduce suffering among as many living beings as possible, but I recognize that progress is impossible without some level of discomfort.
All the best!
I need to do everything in my power to try and build momentum to remove those people from power.
You must be confused, posting in a shitpost community on lemmy of all places is literally doing fuck all, you’re not reaching out to anyone, all you’re doing is getting upvotes from the echo chamber
There’s someone on facebook right now posting in the take back america group that transgender lefties are gay and retarded and getting the same upvotes, it means nothing, you’re not changing anyones mind
to be 100% clear nobody around here is right wing or conservative, you’ve chased them all away and you even scare most centre right and centre people as well
you know how trump has this method of madness called flooding the zone? you guys have this thing of flooding the lemmy, doesn’t matter if I’m in pics for non-political pictures of things, memes for non-political memes, or even a damn gardening comm, somehow you always end up posting about american politics and a lot of us are sick of it
thanks for sharing your thoughts, respectfully, I disagree, but I hope you have a great day regardless!
Hey! Thanks for making this place worse and driving people back to other platforms! Have a nice day!
Your complaining is more annoying than the post itself.
welcome to my world, all day I have to listen to americans complaining and bitching about america and some of you like @[email protected] think they’re doing me a favour!
imagine if my complaints here were the top 10 posts on this site and posted hundreds of times a day, yeah you’d probably be a bit unhappy as well
just so you know, I’m not actually american, lol
Oh, don’t get me wrong, I wouldn’t do, or intend to do you any favours.
If a country is gonna be fucking fascist, people are gonna “bitch” about it, because it’s fucking fascist (I’m also not an american).
Also if your posts were the top 10, thats clearly what people want to see, and if I didn’t like it I’d go do something else because I have a life outside of the internet.
you know you can just make your own community that bans political posts, or indeed, anything you don’t like, right?
Hey! Yes if you look at my profile you’ll see I’ve done just this for some comms of mine. You can click on my name to see my profile.
However I have no interest in creating a second Lemmy Shitpost purely to stop rabid Anti-Americanisms, maybe one day but not today.
Many of us would just prefer it if you could take a fuckin hint and stop spamming anti-American shit all over the place.
Hope your day is going great and you can consider others when you throw your litter on the ground instead of telling them to go make another planet :)
Hey friend it’s a lot easier to not be shitty when someone disagrees with you, than to triple down on being shitty. Also: this comic doesn’t even mention America, you added it yourself
¯\(ツ)/¯
okay, just checking! take care <3
You’re being very normal about this.
Go touch a spider or whatever you Australians do instead of touching grass
Go find an apoliticist community to post in, we don’t want any apoliticists here.
Who is “we” ? If it’s a bunch of American dickheads who have turned this place into a ghost town then fuck off, you’re driving people back to reddit
Normal people, who like politics. We like to watch political movies like Star Wars and read political books like A Song of Ice and Fire. We’re the majority in every country and every culture.
Is that why the more normie shitpost community on reddit has less politics in it than this one? Because wanting (US) politics in every fucking moment if your lives is normal?
You must be confused, Lemmy is for the most part dead, you don’t represent most people, you represent a tiny group of leftwing progressives who put weird shit like
Goddess of madness and rebirth. Excrucian Strategist. Capitalised They/Them. Anarcho-Antireal theorist.
In their profiles.
You’re not most people so don’t even think of responding on behalf of them.
Most people went back to reddit after realising this place was full of left wing weirdos
You must be confused, Lemmy is for the most part dead,
Why are you here then?
Most people went back to reddit after realising this place was full of left wing weirdos
Ah, rightoid trolling.
Ah, rightoid trolling.
Where’s the lie?
That sounds like a bunch of people who are even more politically engaged than most. So they’re even more correct than they otherwise implied.
Well I think you’ll find that in addition to politics, most people like progress. They want society to become better over time. Better technology, better culture, better art, better governance. Most people are progressives, at least in theory. Now, most of them don’t act like they like progress, and they don’t act like they like politics either, but they do. And if you can avoid triggering any thought terminating cliches and speak to them logically in language they understand, they’ll tell you that they support socialism, environmentalism, queer rights, racial and gender equality, voting reform, and many other left wing policies. The trouble is just that they don’t want to put any thought or effort into how society is going to achieve that. But they like it in theory.
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I support the left and dont like the right
Mark your edits as to what was changed.
the left is the side that fights the elite. centrists and right-wingers serve the elite. just so you know. capitalism is the system by which the elite maintain their domination.
“The left is the side that fights the elite” Aw, bro. Both sides are being played. Don’t let my impending downvotes or your upvotes make you think otherwise.
Thanks for your comment, can you explain what you mean? I’m not sure that I understand.
Sure - the right were whipped up into a nationalist fury and the left were turned into useful idiots, arguing over trivial issues while the 0.01%, who do not sit on left or right, point and laugh. The only reasonable option is anarchy.
Like I said, I will eat downvotes but you can see evidence of this up and down this comments section.
Ah, I’m guessing you’re American, and you think that democrats are the left and republicans are the right? The democrats are actually center-right, they’re all about capitalism and protecting the interests of the ruling class.
The true left vs. right dichotomy actually IS the class war. The working class of the left is fighting against the ruling class, and the working class on the right is unfortunately blinded by propaganda and brainwashing into supporting the interests of the ruling class. As leftists, we need to help those on the right break free of their mind prisons by having conversations just like this one. Solidarity is everything.
Leftists in the United States historically haven’t been represented by mainstream politics exactly for that reason, and there has been centuries of anti-leftist propaganda in the US, that’s because leftists actually pose a threat to the establishment.
he democrats are actually center-right,
You’re giving muricans aneurysms with that sentence.
What’s next? Bernie’s center-left at best?Yep, democratic socialism is ultimately a reformist position, which serves to extend the reign of capitalism by moderating it’s worse excesses. Capitalism cannot be reformed, any attempts to reform, democratize or socialize capitalism may yield short term improvements to quality of life of the working class, but if capitalism is not abolished, it will always reassert itself, and capitalism inevitably leads towards fascism. The New Deal prevented the US from sliding into fascism in the 20th century, so that’s ultimately a good thing, but it did not go far enough, and that’s why we have the resurgence of fascism in the 21st century.
This is why the Democratic Socialists of America are accepted under the banner of the Democrats, because they ultimately pose a relatively minor threat to capital owners, and they capture the energy, enthusiasm and activist efforts of left-leaning progressives, redirecting it into getting democrats elected (and thus serving the interests of the ruling class), rather than actually agitating for real, lasting societal change.
Ah, I’m guessing you’re American,
Yep
and you think that democrats are the left and republicans are the right?
Nope.
You know what they say about assumptions. It’s makes and ass outta you.
Okay, so help me to understand, I asked already and you just shared a meme, it’s kind of unfair to complain about me assuming even after I asked for clarifications :(
I agree
if you’re american, democrats aren’t on the left, they’re a center-right political party.
the left fights the elite in every country.
big W growth moment mate, proud of you <3
He Betty now
Just swinging my chain
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Your enlightened centrism and unequivocal both-sides-ism serves nothing, except maybe the elite because of your inaction. You’ve got some research to do if you believe anything right of center is designed to benefit the working class. Pick a side or gtfo of the way.
bothsideism? he literally said he supportd the left and doesnt like the right. he clearly picked a side
From the responses their comment got it seems as tho they probably edited what it said.
oh damn youre right. i fell for it 😔
i know right
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Mmm yes sow more division daddy
If one side wants people like me and my partner to die, I’m okay with dividing them away from me.
So, you’re anti-Muslim? Or just anti an extremely small minority of Christians that the MSM tells you is everyone who disagrees with you?
Most members of abrahamic faiths are overwhelmingly homophobic. Definitely not a minority.
Homophobic does not equal wanting you dead. Muslims are the only one in the majority that want gays to be killed. Jews and Christians tolerate LGBT peoples.
1- Not true, christians want gays dead too 2- Homophobia itself is something that kills, if you’re unaware.
No Christian wants gay people killed. Maybe someone cosplaying as a Christian, but no Christians. It’s against all Christian doctrines.
No True Scotsman fallacy.
Christians wish death upon gay men all the time.
I will reiterate that homophobia kills, and christians are indefensibly homophobic, as a fact.
There’s a lot that’s against christian doctrines. The vast majority don’t care to follow most/all of them.
And here I was thinking satire was dead.
I’m anti-hate. I don’t care what your religion is.
Child-raping president? Yeah I’ll take division.
Biden’s not president anymore buddy. You can stop bringing him up.
So, did you just blow in from stupid town?
What, you think Biden is still president?
Do you? You’re the one bringing him up. Everyone else here seems to have a grasp on reality and the fact that Biden is an entirely irrelevant figure on the current stage and that the current administration is a pedophile white power rally, but that’s not a problem for you unless they’re one of those evil leftist democrats, right?
Also, everybody here hates Biden, too, but not because he isn’t kissing the rings, you’re just yelling from the far side. Lemmy isn’t a democrat support group, in case you haven’t caught on.
Edit: Just to be clear, since you’re obviously not up to date on your current events, there are more than two political systems and beliefs in the world, and democrats and republicans share the exact same one.
