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    1 day ago

    “The left is the side that fights the elite” Aw, bro. Both sides are being played. Don’t let my impending downvotes or your upvotes make you think otherwise.

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        6 hours ago

        Sure - the right were whipped up into a nationalist fury and the left were turned into useful idiots, arguing over trivial issues while the 0.01%, who do not sit on left or right, point and laugh. The only reasonable option is anarchy.

        Like I said, I will eat downvotes but you can see evidence of this up and down this comments section.

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          Ah, I’m guessing you’re American, and you think that democrats are the left and republicans are the right? The democrats are actually center-right, they’re all about capitalism and protecting the interests of the ruling class.

          The true left vs. right dichotomy actually IS the class war. The working class of the left is fighting against the ruling class, and the working class on the right is unfortunately blinded by propaganda and brainwashing into supporting the interests of the ruling class. As leftists, we need to help those on the right break free of their mind prisons by having conversations just like this one. Solidarity is everything.

          Leftists in the United States historically haven’t been represented by mainstream politics exactly for that reason, and there has been centuries of anti-leftist propaganda in the US, that’s because leftists actually pose a threat to the establishment.

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            he democrats are actually center-right,

            You’re giving muricans aneurysms with that sentence.
            What’s next? Bernie’s center-left at best?

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              Yep, democratic socialism is ultimately a reformist position, which serves to extend the reign of capitalism by moderating it’s worse excesses. Capitalism cannot be reformed, any attempts to reform, democratize or socialize capitalism may yield short term improvements to quality of life of the working class, but if capitalism is not abolished, it will always reassert itself, and capitalism inevitably leads towards fascism. The New Deal prevented the US from sliding into fascism in the 20th century, so that’s ultimately a good thing, but it did not go far enough, and that’s why we have the resurgence of fascism in the 21st century.

              This is why the Democratic Socialists of America are accepted under the banner of the Democrats, because they ultimately pose a relatively minor threat to capital owners, and they capture the energy, enthusiasm and activist efforts of left-leaning progressives, redirecting it into getting democrats elected (and thus serving the interests of the ruling class), rather than actually agitating for real, lasting societal change.

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            Ah, I’m guessing you’re American,

            Yep

            and you think that democrats are the left and republicans are the right?

            Nope.

            You know what they say about assumptions. It’s makes and ass outta you.

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              Okay, so help me to understand, I asked already and you just shared a meme, it’s kind of unfair to complain about me assuming even after I asked for clarifications :(

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                6 hours ago

                Once you assumed something about me I no longer am paying any attention because you already have a preconceived notion about what I think and feel.