So much hate for a show that was never meant to be a cinematic masterpiece of comedy? I don’t get it. It’s not supposed to be deep. I watched it for a while, it was funny in its dumb way, and then it just didn’t go anywhere so I quit watching. It was fun for a while. No need for the hate.
Edit: wow. Triggered some people who want to equate themselves to centuries-long oppressed minorities and slaves, over a TV show. Know what? Oppressed minorities will still be oppressed tomorrow, shot by cops, profiled, and live with systemic racism. You get to change the channel. Get over yourselves.
A lot of people grew up being bullied, turned on a show that was supposed to appeal to them, only to be bullied again. 90% of the jokes are “hey look how fucking stupid these nerds are for liking nerd things.” The remaining 10% is sexist or ignoring Penny’s crippling alcoholism.
It was an attack on a culture of people, rather than the celebration of that culture it pretended to be. That’s why people hate it.
I mean it’s nerd blackface basically if I’m being only slightly hyperbolic
There’s no centuries-long systemic oppression and denigration of “nerds”, blackface is a terrible word choice.
It gets the point across and I don’t really care to come up with a substitute, you’re just ignoring it to argue sensitive
Clearly you’ve never watched a 80’s-90’s movie set in a highschool
I’m gen X. I’ve seen them all. FWIW, the nerds usually emerge victorious.
Found the fucking jock
I’m in my basement, with collected 80’s Robotech and Transformers toys, a 3D printer, a self-built watercooled gaming PC, a linux PC, boxes of decades of tech junk, a printed Darth Vader helmet I’m trying to finish so maybe I can go to a ‘con suited up, a backup of all of my favorite movies like Better off Dead and Princess Bride…. And I’m on Lemmy.
Yeah. Total jock.
But go ahead and make up whatever suits you.
I fucking hate that show. Also, I love your username.
Lmao thanks bro i joined this place last night after hearing about it on Reddit I decided to go for a short username and this one was available i couldn’t fucking believe it
“Available”. You could have joined any instance besides world where it was also available. This is not leddot.
i don’t get the hate. was my comfort show for a good five years… it’s a random ass sitcom, what did people want it to be?
It was just kind of boring.
It’s also not funny
This is the show where simply acknowledging a character owns/owned a NES was the entire punchline of a joke.
Yeah if you turn off the laugh track this show is terrible, for so many reasons.
It’s terrible with the laugh track as well.
Reminds me of “Kevin can f**k himself” https://youtu.be/q2qGIsOkA64
Also, Friends just isn’t funny. Every character except Phoebie is bland and unlikable.
I’ll add that the laugh track is doing a lot of heavy lifting for Seinfeld as well. Some of the writing is good but it might as well be called the Jason alexander show.
Joey seemed alright, until he moved to LA.
Yeah my burning hatred of Friends made me blind to Lisa Kudrow’s talent until pretty recently
Phoebe is just annoying and unlikable
They’re all unlikable.
I would hang out with Joey.
Hang out, maybe. Wouldn’t want him as a roommate, though.
I wonder if the big issue is tying their twin to the show Mad About You.
Well BBT, and every other that has a laugh track, is scripted and edited around it. Removing that will make even the best comedy suck.
The show sucks but removing the canned laughter doesn’t prove anything.
The one exception to this is probably MASH. If I recall correctly they didn’t want the laugh track at all, and when it aired in Europe it didn’t have the laugh track and was better for it.
Oh damn, maybe I need to seek out the European versions of MASH episodes then.
I loved the movie, but then couldn’t get past the first couple episodes of the show because of the goddamn laugh track
You don’t have to. As I’m aware (don’t own these) the DVD and/or the Blu-ray release have an optional laugh track for audio.
Not really. When the laughs are removed you just realize it’s racism, sexism, and juvenile jokes all in one.
There’s your problem. Just keep the laugh track on and it stays funny.
Same deal with Friends and also a fair amount of standup.
If your jokes aren’t funny without putting fake forced laughter behind them then they shouldn’t be said.
That’s the entire premise of ‘Kevin can f**k himself’ essentially spitting in the face of these feckless sitcoms covering shit writing with laughtracks.
This show had a character that physically could not speak to women without being intoxicated. I think they eventually created a pharmaceutical drug to resolve this.
EDIT: As for Friends, there was a lot of fat phobia and gay panic.
If I recall, they literally just dropped it one episode and acknowledged it with an “oh well.”
He eventually got over it, but yeah it was forced and uncomfortable.
Friends I never understood. I didn’t have a problem with most of it. It just… Sucked. It wasn’t good. I had more of a problem with Seinfeld but accepted that it was superior.
I’d rethink any opinions you have of Jerry Seinfeld. He thinks the phrase “Free Palestine” is worse than the Holocaust.
Don’t get me wrong, he sucks. But his show was better than friends.
Hard disagree. People still laughing cuz he wore a poofy shirt and it’s not even a cohesive joke. He just wore a shirt. Woopdeefuckindoo.
“Airline food. What is the deal with that?” Why are people laughing?
I’ve read 5 yr olds put together more cohesive story with crayons. Dude was just lazy.
They’re not funny with the laugh track either
can’t believe how underused she was in the show.
Harley is one of the funniest shows from the last decade, how the fuck was a show with her as a lead was so unfunny!!!??
Cause Chuck Lorre
Some of his shows are funnier. I don’t think he actually understands geeks, but he wanted to make a show about them and it was just a bunch of stereotypes for characters.
The only thing worse than this show is this show with german dubbing
The whole show was only funny to people that think sitcoms are high comedy to begin with.
Mind you, anyone that enjoys them are welcome to! Humour is a very personal thing. I’m just saying that sitcom humor is not universal as a whole, and that this sitcom played to a narrow audience that heavily favors that style of comedy show. If you aren’t the sort that really grooves on that template and style, the show just won’t hit right.
It’s like how people with really dark senses of humor tend to not be prone to liking cartoon style humor.
Sitcom specific fans know what they like, and tend not to like things that aren’t similar
Oh yeah, sure. People with dark senses of humor don’t watch Rick and Morty, family guy, American dad, Archer, metalocalypse, bobs burgers, yeah. Dark senses of comedy never watch cartoon type shows. Cause none of those exist.
Edit:forgot the Simpsons, South Park, frisky dingo, aqua teen hunger force, the Xtacles…
Superjail, Mr. Pickles.
Pickles is just violent. Superjail is probably the most genuinely unhinged show I’ve ever seen.
the Xtacles
You got my hopes up that there was a frisky dingo spinoff show…
There was… Sorta. Only a few episodes got made before the company collapsed. The jokes about rapier ape and the potential of a rapiest ape… Omfg I almost died laughing.
Good to know it’s still good. I just saw two episodes and got disappointed
Should we put Xavier Renegade Angel on this list? I don’t think it really qualifies as dark humor, more absurdist humor, but he eats all those babies that one episode…
I will save this post for later, thanks a lot
Check out sealab2021 if you like dark mixed with absurdist
Sealab is great! That show (and ATHF) got me into mc chris
I’m probably missing a bunch. Their post was just so absurd that it couldn’t go unrefuted.
Bojack Horseman
the good thing about sitcoms is that they are comforting. if you start liking the characters then you get to enjoy their lives vicariously.
my point isn’t about sitcoms, but that Kaley Cuoco is incredibly funny (Harley is so funny and nerdy). yet all she did was being the “normie blonde”. If she was given more freedom The Big Bang theory might have been actually funny.
I remember early in the run of BBT, when I had already decided the show was not for me (not helped by people comparing me to Sheldon – yay, neurodivergence), I saw Jim Parsons on the Craig Ferguson show. He picked up Craig’s TARDIS from his desk and giggled, saying “This is so cute! What is it?”
I think Kaley Cuoco would have recognized the fucking TARDIS.
Honestly, given my age at the time, she was probably my main reason for watching the show at the time. My second being the science and third the jokes.
Yeah, she is way better than that show let her be. I’m not even a huge fan of hers, but she’s definitely got great comedy chops.
Yeah? What else has she shown those quality comedy chops since then? Her Harley Quinn show exists, or did, I don’t know if it’s still a thing. But nothing else she’s done has lasted more than 2 seasons.
Dude, I’m having way too shitty a week to deal with some rando being a dick.
Go somewhere else for an argument.
I will die on this hill. BBT was 6 seasons of a quality sitcom dragged out over 12. If a skilled editor went through and cut out all the filler, it would be a much better show.
Stupid hill to die on lol
I don’t get it…
The Big Bang Theory. Unfunny show that somehow went on for a decade and made a lot of money.
Unfunny and unpopular are not the same thing. A show does not stay on air for 12 seasons by being unpopular and unfunny. Producing television is expensive, and networks renew shows because they are profitable and have strong audience demand. The Big Bang Theory may have been disliked in some online circles, but commercially and mainstream-wise, it was clearly a very popular show.
CBS did not keep funding 12 seasons of a money pit out of the kindness of its heart.
Popular also doesn’t mean good. There are plenty of shows that run for years that aren’t very good, but make money. Mindless entertainment sells great, but selling isn’t quality, it’s just moving products. And low quality cheap schlock does sell.
This is basically how I see it:
Depends how you define “good”. I say if a lot of people enjoy it then yes, it’s a good show. After all, entertainment is the primary purpose.
You keep equating your preferences to reality. Just because you and an online circlejerk don’t like it means that you’re correct.
Yeah, but what’s the joke in the meme?
Woman has breasts.
Geeks like looking at breasts.
Geeks feed breasts.
I guess, that’s not my kind of humor then…
Breasts feed geeks
The circle of life.
Woman
