
I never bought Windows 11 for AI shit. It wasn’t even what came with 11 originally. Hey Microsoft, why not make a version of Windows 11 with all the AI stuff fully turned on and call it Windows 11-AI. You sell it separately and up charge as much as you want. Just reset 11 to no AI and have it be the bare bones 11.
Edit: 2 things too. Violating user privacy could carry a risk as far as attorney-client privledge goes because attorneys work on 11 from home. So just ransaking all data could cause that right to be waved. Subpoena much?
Also, the AI-Windows could be upsold as a luxury, which means you can charge more for AI-11.
They can’t do that. They have all of their money riding on AI. They can’t possess any data that might show the all-mightly Shareholders that they bet wrong.
Cool, you know who doesn’t have this issue? People who uninstalled the spyware called Windows from their device.
lol
they just keep piling on justifications for switching away
I’ve been watching Windows get worse and worse from the sidelines for years now, but it seems they are really ramping it up now. It has gotten so bad, I genuinely feel bad for Windows users now. But it’s also pretty damn funny.
Important to note here that if you are running Windows or a dual-boot, the new version of O&O ShutUp has a utility that allows you to delete CoPilot.
Why? Who’s asking for this stuff, is there somebody out there who is really pleased with this news or is Microsoft really just that out of touch.
I don’t want to have to start wearing rainbow knee-length socks, but Microsoft are pushing me towards it.
I’ve read this exact questions tens of times now. This is capitalism. Now why would a for profit company ever do anything? I leave you to your deductions.
In theory, I could use an AI for doing stuff. For example, opening ripped videos, finding the timestamp where the episode name is given, and then copying that into the video’s filename. Afterwards, it can open Handbrake, use my preferred settings for audio and subs, then start the conversion of multiple files.
However, this is all predicated on the AI not doing unwanted things - such as giving Microsoft my personal information, preferences in hentai, and passwords.
Someday I will use agentic AI, but it will be on my terms.
Microsoft is forcefemming en masse.
Consumers are not the main driver of profit, speculative value is. Microsoft knows that Windows is guaranteed to be on the majority of PC’s, which means they can afford to implement hostile features that increase the speculative value on data collection and AI investment.
Once you realize this, you also realize that there’s no going back for them either. If by some slim chance there’s enough resistance for them to pause or rollback some features, it’s only temporary. The overall course remains clear and they will continue to move in that direction regardless.
There disdain for you as a consumer could not be made any clearer.
This is well said. So many people don’t get that of course these companies know you hate this shit.
They’re just trying to boost their stock value and violate your privacy harder.
The socks have a bit of a learning curve, depending on what you want to do with them, but it’s worth it. It’s such a huge relief to not care how much more Windows is getting enshittified this week, since it’s not my problem anymore.
I don’t want to have to start wearing rainbow knee-length socks
it’s pretty obvious that you do
I don’t think MS is out of touch with what the customer wants, I think they just stopped listening.
The fact is nobody is asking for this stuff.
I think the hope is that they build it anyway and then people will use/want it. AI is the big buzzword of the decade, just like ‘cloud’ was the big buzzword of last decade.
put the socks on >:3
I’m not sure what’s worse, the greybeard stereotype or the socks.
Oh, the greybeard stereotype, for sure. Carrying the weight required for the ‘classic RMS’ look isn’t good for your health. Cute twinks in knee-high socks carrying a blahaj are much better, everyone loves them.
Now, the fully-actuated fursuit for if you want to be taken seriously as a sysadmin? That’s an expensive hobby.
Woah woah woah, lot’s not compare fabulous knee high rainbow socks with the malware MS is putting in their OS. That’s not fair to rainbows or socks.
The LLMs demand more data, so MS is providing it by scraping our personal hard drives. Well, not mine, but still most peoples.
I still have Win10 running on an air-gapped laptop because there are no Linux drivers for my cheap auto-feed scanner, which I’m using to scan a raft of old photos. Once that project is done, I’ll put Linux Mint on it, and use it for something fun.
Gimp, Inkscape, Blender, Steam, LibreOffice, Obsidian, and Jellyfin do everything I want from a desktop.
I have a dual-boot with Linux Mint. I don’t access anything personal from my windows installation. It’s just for games that don’t work on Linux.
your personal hard drive? Did you mean OneDrive?
Oof - that reminds me - I have a LOT of scanning / digitizing to do.
What’s the difference between big software companies and drug cartels? No, this is not the opening line of a joke.
Drugs can at least be fun?
A few months ago, I did a fresh install of Windows 11 with no access to any personal files, etc, all done on a separate drive. After seeing all of the changes, I am glad I haven’t used it since. Holy moly.

AI is getting shoved down my throat more than cock, and I’m literally an escort, so that says a lot.
You need to renounce your wicked lifestyle and follow the teachings of our Lord and Saviour, Linus Torvalds!
I’m trying out Fedora Gnome and I like it, but I can’t daily-drive it because I use Apple Music religiously and there’s no Linux client that supports lossless. :(
Do you mean lossless audio in general or specifically Apple Music?
I’ve definitely listened to flac files on Linux but a lot of the finer points of high quality audio are lost on me so my input may not be useful.
I am not using Apple Music, but have you tried the Windows client via Proton? I used Amazon Music installed through Heroic Launcher in the past and it worked fine. Though I had to configure the audio to go above 48kHz.
I’m not the one you’re asking, but I’m in a similar situation. I’ve attemped to get this working and the problem is that their Windows client must be downloaded and installed through the Microsoft Store and it’s packaged in a way you can’t run in standalone after extracting it. Some apps published through the MS Store do work fine this way, but I could not get it working for the Apple Music client.
Apple Music does have a web player, but it is also limited to lossy streaming like alternative clients like Cider is.
Hey there! What I do on Linux is use the Thorium browser to make the Apple Music an app in the OS. It works really well, but does have some weird visual glitches every now and then. I chalk that up to me having an NVIDIA GPU and using Wayland though, so it could work better for you!
As for lossless, I am not sure on that as I don’t have ears that can tell the difference so it has never been something I focused on!
Cider also went from an open source project to a closed source project. I stopped using them after that.
I know about Cider; unfortunately, it doesn’t support lossless, and that’s a must for me.
That’s a shame. Hopefully they add lossless someday.
Listen to music on phone? 🤔
how do I do A?
do B instead
It’s a suggestion
* Theo de Raadt
I’ve got an old Mac I’ve managed to get running Sequoia but due to Apple dropping support for Intel, it’s running on borrowed time.
Many people need to use computers and Windows for 8 hours a day, every working day + AI shoved into personal apps. I wouldn’t expect even the world’s best escort to be giving head continuously for 8+ hours a day, 5 days a week.
I am a system admin and decided to just use Windows Server on my desktop to avoid the bullshit Windows 11 changes
Server has its own set of problems but at least the tools to deal with them are prepackaged
Why not use LTSC instead? It shouldn’t include many of these changes it has done or will do. I know since windows 10 the separation between workstation and server has deepened and I believe app compatability is less due to it. I even remember a few apps I wanted to install on server wouldnt let me unless I buy a business license because it detected I was using server and assumed I was a business because of the OS.
I’m working in server all day anyway. Licences are not a issue with most desktop software that we use. We have almost unlimited access to the Microsoft catalog with a combination of our subscriptions. As a system administrator doing what I do, it’s not much different from ltsc except I have to use a couple of local group policies so I’m not badgered by system prompts
Windows is the security risk
At this point I can only assume that Microsoft is actively trying to punish me for using their products.
Ever since Windows 8, Microsoft has shown to be a sadist.
Windows Vista would like a word.
Eh, Vista itself wasn’t that bad, the issues stemmed from both marketing way to low quality devices as compatible, and developers getting used to UAC.
Also, Vista did not have the shitty new settings app.
Windows ME has some shit to say… Then Windows 8 will be next to have a chat.
Windows ME wasn’t a sadist. It would have to actually work to get that far. The best thing that happened to a laptop I had which came with ME installed was to put Win98 on it. Ran great after that.
Windows ME was a bastardization of the NT and DOS environment. I was a Microsoft support analyst at the time. From the insiders perspective, it was the biggest pile of shit
ME was a freak of software development, not an outright sadistic experience.
They are getting more aggressive by the day it seems. Luckily I’ve been windows free for 10 years now. And recently, I switched almost my entire extended family to Linux mint to great success. Only my brother in law still uses win, cause of games, specifically anti cheat - the last hurdle for many people.
How long before you can’t turn this off or uninstall it, just like Edge, or Bitlocker, or TPM, or mandatory Microsoft accounts?
Just pirate windows server or other enterprise editions which can be used only by business
Absolutely. I spent like 3 hours the other day trying to get a W11 vm running; trying to emulate TPM and faking secure boot. I gave up and installed server in 5 minutes 😑
Hi there! I have a tiny11 ISO that I always use to install Windows on stuff when needed. I’ve never encountered this issue before. Have you tried using Rufus to put the ISO on the USB? It has options for stuff like that. I can’t say how successful they are, as I guess tiny11 does a lot of that itself?
I’d give it another year at best.
I’m guessing that the answer to that is … as soon as openai collapses … hopefully.






















