• menas@lemmy.wtf
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    56 minutes ago

    Mocking believes of others and surprised that other don’t want to be nearby. If you thin you have to disrespect everything your disbelieve, you are not that rational thinking person you think you are

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    5 hours ago

    Not all women are into astrology, but all the people who are into astrology are women.

    Actually, they’re a very specific and weird subset of women. They almost always have these traits:

    • In their late teens to early/mid 20s
    • Into “witchcraft” unironically
    • Too into celebrity gossip
    • Think yoga and meditation is sacred
    • Have a completely delusional and out of touch view of Buddhism and Hinduism
    • Have at least one of the following: Comically proportioned glasses, excessive piercings, unnatural hair colors, “spiritual” tattoos
    • Think they’re an “artist” of sorts

    I’ve yet to meet an astrology fan who didn’t have at least 80% of these.

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      What’s sadder is that yoga, chakras, and crystals are traditionally from religions within the Indian subcontinent. Westerners are simply taking aspects of South Asian cultures, indigenous cultures, African cultures, and then bastardising them into marketable “neo-pagan witchcraft.”

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    12 hours ago

    Irrespective of its truthfulness, astrology is really cool! I love learning about it. I also really like alchemy. It’s kinda like looking at someone’s fanfic AU. Of course 17th century guys were inventing cute lil alphabets, pretending they belonged to angels, and writing lil secret notes. Of course someone looked up at the sky and then invented a whole magic system about how the pictures affect our lives. Humans never change.

    In fact things like Tarot and astrology can be used to ascribe meaning to some of the ways in which we behave - like, you can’t tell the future objectively from it, but you can figure things out about your own current feelings based on what you gravitate to and what the results make you think about.

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          It is a divination form. You flip 3 coins a couple of times (or flip sticks originally I believe) and you get an answer in a very vague wise person way.

          I believe it is based on an Asian book that was written a while back. It was popular back in the Eu about… 25 years ago. Way easier than tarot reading. I never got into that - tho I do love the symbolism of the cards, I even wanted to make a set from scratch.

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      I know in an earlier comment I said I dislike it, but I guess I just dislike people taking it way way way too seriously. It is pretty interesting and tarot cards and stuff and they’re fun to learn about from a perspective. It’s just the aspect of it being absolute truth or something I find a little perturbing.

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    If they can predict planetary motions based on a sample of live events from a group of individuals with a balanced distribution of zodiac signs, then I will be convinced it is real.

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      8 hours ago

      sounds like the plot of a manga. teenagers of various zodiac birthdates come together to avert a solar system disaster with the power or friendship and shared trauma.

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        Nice.

        And they keep calculating all the possible lifepaths to avoid this disaster but all of them always end up in weird places.

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    16 hours ago

    I had several friends at school with the same birthday as me, so obviously we had the same personality and all the same stuff kept happening to us.

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    Imagine you had to date a pool of people who tend to systematically deny the validity of your experiences or perspective. You have a way of referring to your experiences in a way that

    • is easy to ridicule
    • provides a layer of isolation between what you present as yourself and being personally ridiculed
    • is trivial to understand with the slightest bit of reason/empathy

    Would you latch on to it as a way of filtering out dates?

    • TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world
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      16 hours ago

      I don’t have to imagine that. I experience it.

      In my case it’s not astrology though, it’s growing up poor. And the folks I meet who didn’t grow up that way systematically deny my experiences and perspective as ignorant and stupid (or mentally ill), because poor people are ignorant and stupid in their eyes and they can’t ever be anything other than that.

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    17 hours ago

    I’m pretty indifferent to astrology these days, but I have spent enough time studying the basics of how it works that I think anyone criticizing it should also at least have a basic enough understanding of it that they can criticize the thing itself rather than the stereotype of the thing.

    If you’re going to attack something for being stupid, it’s a good idea to not be stupid yourself.

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      12 hours ago

      They aren’t saying astrology these days is too polarized or something. They’re saying the basic premise behind astrology itself is nonsensical. It’s like expecting an atheist to read the Bible.

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        No, it’s like an atheist criticizing the Bible by saying things that are untrue about the Bible. If you care enough about something to be informed enough to make a credible critique, that’s fine. But if you’re just going to harbor and further perpetuate false stereotypes about a thing, maybe just stay in your lane and a, “Hey I don’t know about that stuff and I don’t care,” is all you need.

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          6 hours ago

          But atheists never claim “Abraham had two dads”, and anti-astrology people don’t say “Geminis like jalapeños”.

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        9 hours ago

        I was raised without religion. Decided I was atheist as soon as I came across the word as a kid.

        I’ve read large parts of the Christian Bible, in a “know thy enemy” sort of way.

        Also, reading the Bible is one way atheists come to be atheists.

        That said, I have zero interest in learning more about astrology. Yes, it’s completely nonsensical, and not worth anyone’s time pursuing. There’s nothing behind it. The “basics of how it works” is that it obviously doesn’t work at all. It’s complete bullshit.

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    17 hours ago

    I never make fun of it I just roll my eyes and move on.

    The reason I have trouble getting laid is my neuroticism and pickiness. When I find someone smart, atheist, similar sense of humor, into video games & tech, politically aligned with me, and there is mutual physical attraction, I end up acting like a crazy person and blow it all up.

    If at least 1 of those boxes is not checked (except the mutual physical attraction bit of course) I usually feel pretty meh about the person but I usually keep my cool and can get laid. However, then I usually don’t pursue a relationship with them beyond that.

    Recently found someone that I am pretty sure checked all those boxes, so had a mental breakdown and scared them off. Kind of want to buy some rope and/or find a nice tall bridge these days.

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      17 hours ago

      it sounds like you’re just really egotistical and you need someone to be a mirror image of yourself before you find them remotely interesting.

      also like you hate yourself, so yeah, you’d self sabotage the second you met someone like yourself, and by definition, neither of you can emotionally regulate so it’s doomed anyway.

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        16 hours ago

        I don’t want to date dumb people, religious people (but I repeat myself), rightwingers and centrists (but I repeat myself again twice more), we need to have a rapport through humor, and I want to be able to share video games as a hobby with a future partner. I think these are reasonable desires.

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      17 hours ago

      Honestly self-awareness is the first step to change, and what’s painful is you will become aware before you become able to act on self-improvement, but that’s how it works. I also think those who have trouble with relationships imagine that others are always having a great time but that’s certainly not the case. Prove to yourself that you’re better than you perceive yourself to be, ignore your self talk when you say it won’t happen, and keep pushing. Get help if you’re serious about those thoughts, because nobody should have to fight that battle alone

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      Secret 4th option, there is so much worse you could believe in.

      Why let something as silly as that stop you from participating in a relationship that you might otherwise enjoy?

      As long as it’s not harmful why is it an issue?

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          What’s the difference in pretending to believe in astrology and pretending to be interested in anything else they’re saying?

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            I just hit them with the “Oh wow that’s crazy yeah I don’t really know much about all of that tbh”.

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              i did that on my last date when she started talking to me about biotec startups to invest in privately because she wasn’t getting enough return on her stock portfolio and she was expected a double digit return or how else could she retire comfortably?

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              15 hours ago

              and what if the more drunk person threatens you if you don’t rape them? or worse, threatens to tell others you raped them if you don’t rape them?

              what do you do then? I’ve been in that situation a couple of times. Not a fun place to be. Sometimes doing the right thing gets you punished.

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            17 hours ago

            If the guy doesn’t believe as much it’s rape but if the woman doesnt believe as much it’s not.

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            17 hours ago

            Save yourself time and don’t lie about who you are.

            This is also job application advice. If you never smile in real life but you pretend to act bubbly for an entire interview: your ass better bubble like a pro if you’re hired.

            But ymmv

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              I bought an astrology tapestry when I was in university. I don’t buy into astrology really but the tapestry served its purpose.

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              16 hours ago

              what if the other person doesn’t believe the truth about who you are?

              personally, I’ve noticing people accusing me of lying when I’m telling the truth frequently. And when I lie, they think I’m telling the truth and never question it.

              Weird how that works.