My city has them now. A friend of mine got flagged for overfilled bins. Before it only flagged you if the driver did, and the driver only would if it was egregious. The AI doesn’t GAF and reports fucking everything apparently.
Garbage truck is gonna be new target practice for the pellet gun.
“EU bad! EU doing too much regulation!”
Meanwhile, Trumpist USA:But you see, they’re not regulating the corporations. That’s the big difference.
AI surveillance. another method for LEO/palantir to get access to irl data.
This has been a thing for like 15 years. Just not using “AI”
Why don’t we use this surveillance to nail the big companies that are polluting to the wall? (Because we are ruled by the worst among us.)
I’m so tired, boss.
Can we stop with the dystopia for like…. A whole week?
Will they take a picture before or after the fuckers in the truck somehow manage to fling my cans into the drainage ditch again
They’ll take a pic afterwards and then fine you for polluting the runoff
How do you beat something like this with technology? It must be possible.
Need a clock-blocker.
Good lasers, suppressed 22s, Sawzall’s, you name it.
Great. Something cool was made into something shitty
We made garbage trucks into cops.
The Schizophrenic who believes the garbage men are spying on him is going to fucking lose it!
I mean, code violation rules are there to protect people?
As per the summary part of the post, it’s talking about a “blight” score and HOA (Home Owners Associations).
It is important to keep an eye on the blight, Morrowind taught us that
Nah, a neighboring city has ordinance written with aesthetics in mind too. Like, it’s in the city code that your front yard landscaping has to be congruent with the aesthetic of the street landscaping.
It’s absolute insanity.
That sounds kinda dystopic indeed
thats reasonable no?
This is the kind of bullshit I have to deal with. The city jerkoffs say I have to have a more “herbaceous” front yard. There is a drought and watering restrictions to days and hours. Yet I need more grass. Clowns.
my grass length is none of your fucking business
It is when it houses rodents and other animals that can spread diseases, infest houses, and cause other trouble. It is called living in a society. If you don’t like it, move to Antarctica.
you can spread disease… CEOs are also activly spreading diseases in your food…
my lawn, is none of your fucking business.
Yet another reason to move to the boonies where the only garbage truck is your own beater every couple weeks.
And you accidentally turn a whipped cream container into a steam rocket.
Hmmm. A wall of those tall skinny evergreen topiaries run across the front edge of the lawn would be nice. Put in a little white picket gate with flowerboxes for effect.
Some small towns councils/shires can be even more intrusive and nosy than those in the city, because they have fuck all else to do.
My dad lives in a small town of 30 people and the shire is nosy as fuck.
Good news, the flock camera on every corner will be tracking you and looking for any violations with your truck.
And by good, I mean bad.
Lol. Lmao even.
A flock camera in a rural area will end up like a stop sign in a rural area. Full of bulletholes.
I thought so too. I live in the rural southeast. Those things are at every major intersection and about half of the rest of them.
Maybe the people that don’t mind shooting stuff will learn what they are and take them out. So far the only people I’ve heard about doing that are some kids from one of the local colleges getting arrested for it. Don’t know what happened after that tbh. But most country people are total bootlickers for the cops, as long as they keep the browns out
Nobody has been arrested for it here.
There are plenty of so called brown people, though.
Jokes on them I only use it on my property except for garbage runs and the plates are stolen
The engineers behind these things need to be heavily blacklisted. “Oh yeah, Justin. He was one of the software engineers behind the garbage truck cameras. Toss his resume in the trash. Erica worked for Flock, toss hers too.”
Employers are already doing this, but I’d love to see it become more prevalent.
These people need to be socially outcast full stop.
They do it for those not complacent
Not gonna lie… If I got a good candidate, who is well qualified and not asking a ridiculous salary… I would hire them even if they worked for these evil companies.
They won’t be working for them anymore if I hire them anyways.
You’d have to make engineer a protected title for that and enforce membership and chartership with your locally recognised engineering institutions to allow working under the title. They do that in Queensland Australia. It’s not enforced in our other states, which is odd given Queensland is Australia’s Florida …
Getting a job as an engineer in the UK was hard work because every ridiculous job and it’s dog was claiming to be an engineering role. The guy terminating a wall socket for your internet connection: telecoms engineer apparently. Rough gig for having burnt 5 years at university …
We have this in the states but the title is Professional Engineer. Which is the best way of going about it because making “Engineer” a protected title on its own makes no sense.
A professional engineer would be someone who’s chartered with a recognised engineering institution (Engineers Europe and it’s related Orgs in Europe, Engineering Council and related orgs in the UK, Engineers Australia in Australia etc) and the title would depend on the what the institution want to call them. The professional instution outlines ethical and behavioural requirements to maintain membership.
An Engineer usually refers to someone who does a job related to design and planning for a technical discipline (civil, mechanical, structural, electrical, software etc). The job role usually requires a degree in he engineering disciple, but if you were a particularly fantastic and experienced technical person you might be able to fill the role without one. There will likely be areas of knowledge where you’d be lacking in that case though.
I’m saying the job role could be made to require the chartership to help enforce adherence to the ethical requirements of those governing institutions.
PE is a funny sore spot for me. It’s almost impossible to obtain if you’re not working with other PEs, which is unfortunately the vast majority of engineering roles. I think we have one in my company and he’s in a different state. I have a master’s degree in EE and 15 years working as an RF engineer, but I’ll still see a handful of people saying we’re not real engineers because we’re not holding a PE license we’ll never need.
I’d like this but for the news. Want to say your broadcast is news? It has to adhere to factual standards then. Otherwise it’s entertainment.
Otherwise it’s entertainment.
Fox and Infowars (as under Alex Jones) already claim this
Yeah I agree with this
Is this an actual issue? your home should not be so bad that its violating city code. If it is you should be getting a blight notification.
Having the city to under resourced to notice and take action doesnt change that this is a negative thing. The only angle I can see bad about this is false notices going out or increasing the work load for city council workers sifting through all the new reports.
city code is frequently idiotic as written but so infrequently enforced that nobody complains
Ok so either change it or the city officials will ignore all but the worst violations. Both irrelevant to the technology.
As per the summary part of the post, it’s talking about a “blight” score and HOA (Home Owners Associations).
No its talking about giving each house a blight score similar to an HOA. The city council already has guidelines and this blight score is data to help. This isnt like an HOA where you get fined for having a bin on the front of house.
Yes, as already demonstrated, cameras everywhere reporting “violations” are always accurate and never abused, totally contestable and the local council is always reasonable about them.
“If you arent breaking the law, you have nothing to hide”
You can’t hide the front of your house from the street
Yeah, let’s just unleash completely unreliable tech to punish people for shit that the city isn’t even willing to fund enforcement of!
The station caught up with local real estate broker Ty Williams, who got a courtesy notice for “chimney paint” on a house he owned after one of these cameras came by. He shared a photo of the chimney, and it’s, like, just a regular chimney with some slight discoloration from age.
Human review isn’t doing shit to avoid the inherent problem with the system. This is just the new version of red light cameras, which are also unreliable and incentivize punitive fines.
Red light cameras are fine. If the person as an issue with the official city complaint they can take the city to court.
As for the real estate agent they are likely full of shit given the article didnt post their photo. Plus ive seen what they try and claim as damage they have no trust.
Thats the same logic when minorities are unfairly bothered by cops. A lot of people dont have the resources to fight the system especially for minor fines. But it is unfair for them to lose time and money fighting something that they shouldnt have been charged. Its the opposite of how an effective justice system works.
By that logic dont enforce any laws because some enforcement might be grey and people dont have the resources to make their case.
Thats dumb this is a non issue. You are suggesting we throw out the entire process improvement because it might be wrong and a council worker might not check before issuing the notice then the home owner might be unable to respond to the violation notices.
