• Maggoty@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    eh, code violations are a local government thing. If your town is a giant HOA then look in the mirror. Done properly code violations are serious things you do actually need to fix.

  • ivanovsky@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    Don’t know if it’s these “AI cameras”, but my garbage company started uploading videos of my “violations” to their portal to justify charging me more (bin was open a few inches a couple times). They have video of them picking up the bin (showing my car plates and house in the back), and also of the bin contents from another camera after they dump it into the truck.

    I can only assume they’re working on the “threw a non-recyclable item in recycle bin” logic so they can charge more protect the environment.

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      1 month ago

      Makes sense though. There was trouble with people throwing hazardous waste into the green waste bins and then kids getting exposed to the material. Fuck those people.

  • Raiderkev@lemmy.world
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    My city has them now. A friend of mine got flagged for overfilled bins. Before it only flagged you if the driver did, and the driver only would if it was egregious. The AI doesn’t GAF and reports fucking everything apparently.

  • thesohoriots@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    Will they take a picture before or after the fuckers in the truck somehow manage to fling my cans into the drainage ditch again

    • 4am@lemmy.zip
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      1 month ago

      They’ll take a pic afterwards and then fine you for polluting the runoff

  • Fizz@lemmy.nz
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    1 month ago

    Is this an actual issue? your home should not be so bad that its violating city code. If it is you should be getting a blight notification.

    Having the city to under resourced to notice and take action doesnt change that this is a negative thing. The only angle I can see bad about this is false notices going out or increasing the work load for city council workers sifting through all the new reports.

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      1 month ago

      As per the summary part of the post, it’s talking about a “blight” score and HOA (Home Owners Associations).

      • Fizz@lemmy.nz
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        1 month ago

        No its talking about giving each house a blight score similar to an HOA. The city council already has guidelines and this blight score is data to help. This isnt like an HOA where you get fined for having a bin on the front of house.

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          1 month ago

          Yes, as already demonstrated, cameras everywhere reporting “violations” are always accurate and never abused, totally contestable and the local council is always reasonable about them.

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            1 month ago

            How is this going to be “abused” the responsibility remains on the person at the council issuing the violation they can see the photo before filing. They are contestable the same as any other property violation.

      • Fizz@lemmy.nz
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        1 month ago

        Ok so either change it or the city officials will ignore all but the worst violations. Both irrelevant to the technology.

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      1 month ago

      Yeah, let’s just unleash completely unreliable tech to punish people for shit that the city isn’t even willing to fund enforcement of!

      The station caught up with local real estate broker Ty Williams, who got a courtesy notice for “chimney paint” on a house he owned after one of these cameras came by. He shared a photo of the chimney, and it’s, like, just a regular chimney with some slight discoloration from age.

      Human review isn’t doing shit to avoid the inherent problem with the system. This is just the new version of red light cameras, which are also unreliable and incentivize punitive fines.

      • Fizz@lemmy.nz
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        1 month ago

        Red light cameras are fine. If the person as an issue with the official city complaint they can take the city to court.

        As for the real estate agent they are likely full of shit given the article didnt post their photo. Plus ive seen what they try and claim as damage they have no trust.

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          Thats the same logic when minorities are unfairly bothered by cops. A lot of people dont have the resources to fight the system especially for minor fines. But it is unfair for them to lose time and money fighting something that they shouldnt have been charged. Its the opposite of how an effective justice system works.

          • Fizz@lemmy.nz
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            1 month ago

            By that logic dont enforce any laws because some enforcement might be grey and people dont have the resources to make their case.

            Thats dumb this is a non issue. You are suggesting we throw out the entire process improvement because it might be wrong and a council worker might not check before issuing the notice then the home owner might be unable to respond to the violation notices.

  • jtrek@startrek.website
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    1 month ago

    Why don’t we use this surveillance to nail the big companies that are polluting to the wall? (Because we are ruled by the worst among us.)