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    Are we sure all these boomers leaving comments aren’t also bots on Facebook?

    They might be there to get the thirst traps traction to get out on all the old creeper’s algorithms in the first place.

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    Well, in a way most of the AI hype (like that you can easily replace office workers with chatbots or that software developers will become 10x more efficient and consequently you can fire 90% of your workforce) are a thirst trap for CEOs.

    A bit like selling candy with crack on the schoolground of a primary school…

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      Not even CEOs, you can see various (at some point failed due to low quality high expenses workforce, that can now be replaced with AI, you get the idea) entrepreneurs and non-techies on Facebook write long excited posts about Claude.

      About a computer program and a dataset running completely outside their control and scrutiny. Like white colonizers selling rifles to natives, but not machinery to make those rifles. Or ammunition, but not machinery to produce it. Or colored glass, but not technical processes to make said colored glass.

      CEOs are right to be excited, they might be able to afford the real thing - self-hosted and with the accompanying processes, like healthy datasets, experienced people, nuances of adjusting models, stuff like that.

      But people who are being shown that they can be replaced sufficiently well by a machine, that has another little trait of being completely adjustable - that I can’t understand.

      Someone interested in humanitarian sciences and art being excited that there’s a machine parroting them well enough to replace them, except that machine can also be made to produce those things to fascist ends, - I don’t understand that.

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      I would like to politely suggest that placing a parenthetical three times longer than the sentence it’s nested in makes that sentence quite difficult to get through.

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          Well, in a way most of the AI hype is a thirst trap for CEOs - like that you can easily replace office workers with chatbots or that software developers will become 10x more efficient and consequently you can fire 90% of your workforce.

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    From what I understand, that stuff now has to be clearly labelled as AI in the EU. Hopefully that will help a bit to reduce the mess.

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    Fucking duh. They also can’t tell they are being gaslit by bots on all their stupid conservative pages. Boomers are fucking stupid.

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        Someone is “thirsty” for sex. A woman (or a broad approximation there of) exploits that thirst, hence “trap”.

        The “woman” is the thirst trap. Woman is in quotes, because it’s almost always not a woman, but a bot, or one of many accounts run by scammers.

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        Good-looking person, usually dressed and/or posing provocatively. Often includes engagement-bait-type caption.

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    At some point you have to stop blaming the algorithm: If you’re posting »good morning beautiful« under an image where the hands have six fingers and the background melts into itself, the problem isn’t cutting edge AI. Basic digital literacy is part of living online, regardless of your age.

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      Let’s back up. If you’re posting “good morning beautiful” to ANYONE YOU DON’T EVEN KNOW, you’re probably a piece of shit. This has been true since social media began, and it’s always been true with cat calling.

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        Eh, sorry, but that’s a valid instinct and interest. Yep, someone fully realized as a person and with good social surroundings won’t likely want that. Plenty of people are unfortunately not.

        Now when you’re not getting any hints or do have good social surroundings yet go for such a bait, you are not very wise and might not be a good person.

        But - sometimes English-speaking Web seems kinda puritan still.

        If you are going to answer that last part with observation that such comments are cringe and unlikely to attract another person in a non-puritan setting as well, I am aware of that. Clumsiness exists, stupidity exists, various wounds exist. Have some humanity.

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        Fine, but self-awareness comes in stages. Learning to recognize that others are scamming them is an easier step than recognizing that they’re scummy.

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        Idk, if it’s an explicit thirst trap account that’s plugging for OF or something then it’s fine to post that since they’ll probably appreciate the engagement.

        But yeah your right 99% of the time, just like making unsolicited comments to strangers irl is wrong 99% of the time unless it’s in a strip club where the women presumably want that kind of attention.

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      I looked at some of the videos. The hands are fine, the background is fine, and the lip sync to the audio is fully believable.

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        Yeah, people really need to stop pretending AI slop still produce wonky hands and smeared background. Yes, you will still find those, but you can’t rely on that anymore. Even videos when well made are hard to tell if it’s AI or not.

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          Well, it makes sense, that if sex sells (and also rallies, look at 30s’ and 40s’ propaganda), then believable digital succubi are the most expected application of computers once that becomes possible.

          It’s actually funny how, looking at stuff retrospectively, the main change of 60s was less idealized sexuality in art and propaganda and artifacts like that, but more in participatory culture.

          Things like pr0n in the Internet are sometimes described as continuation of that, I think they are more of a reversal. Pr0n helps to make things taboo.

          Not for everyone, of course, but for people with social disabilities. Of the very kind that join radical groups, listen to romanticist (in the XIX century meaning of the word) music, and/or, like me, just kick rocks till being 30 for everything social.

          It’s the difference between participatory and herd culture in general. Say, 00s’ Web, where people would have simple webpages, against today’s Web, where technical ability to do something doesn’t matter because people almost fear those doing anything outside of big platforms with company employees as invisible herders. It’s weird, freaky, strange. As if you were doing something illegal.

          Those who participate can’t be led by promise of satisfying this or that desire. With the Web example, look at Telegram ; it’s not secure despite its creators almost claiming that, but it does satisfy the desire for having conversation spaces similar to Web forums, with easy discovery ; on most big platforms, that’s made intentionally inconvenient to make people reliant upon recommendations, and recommendations are formed to satisfy advertising conversion goals.

          Now, that’s a desire rather high in Maslow pyramid. Sex is far more basic and important for control.

          I’ve also recently seen a few Facebook posts by one good newspaper’s main editor, with his excitement about Claude, mostly on using it to learn and think about anthropological stuff. So it’s an intellectual succubus as well. Pretty smart people are vulnerable in the same general way as those lonely people, just with a different profile.

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          The current tell is “weird eye-lines and physics” no one looks anyone in the eyes and everything is very “dream where youre trying to run but gravity turned off for some reason”

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            Even the floaty physics are almost gone. The new models and processes are fixing that.

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        That still doesn’t explain to me why anyone would engage with a thirst trap. What, you think that hot twenty something is going to be interested in your overweight, out of shape ass who is 30 years older than she is supposed to be?

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          They’re desperate and not capable of introspecive rational thought. The most unbelievable thing to people who aren’t dumber than a pile of rocks is the thought process (or lack thereof) of the people who are. I recommend trying not to rationalize it yourself for their behalf, you’ll end up with psychic damage

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          Perry sure they’ve mentally resigned themselves to living life in their mental land of make believe

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    I have never understood the need to comment on porn of any kind.

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      You probably also guessed that the stripper isn’t actually attracted to you.

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        Also the “if you had to pick one” ones. Like it’s a public forum and those are real people. Like I get the whole fantasy and thinking about which one you are most attracted to, but any kind of bonding with others around porn (that isn’t just having sex while watching porn) just seems pathetic to me.

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          I used to think about pornstar id marry when I was like 11, they have kid me discoverng porn for the first time logic

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      It’s a parasocial dopamine hit. It’s like commenting on a Twitch stream. There’s a fantasy that they’ll notice and reply to you, and suddenly you’ll be having a conversation with a famous attractive person.

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        Sometimes, I think it’s like people yelling at someone in a horror movie “he’s right behind you!”

        It prompts real feelings and reactions and they just have to let them out.

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      Identifying the performer to find more of their material, or more of the same genre

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        This wouldn’t be necessary if more of the Internet used AO3 tagging and category systems

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          Ive been begging us to adopt booru-style tagging for videos for decades at this point.

          (For the uninitiated, this would mean i could search something like “Brunette curly_hair -horse_penis score:>500” and get every video known to man with a curly haired brunette who does not interact with a horse penis and at least 500 people liked the video)

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    Back in 2023, we reported on AI-generated influencers that were pulling thousands of reactions per thirst trap on Instagram.

    Anything but the metric system!

    I wonder how many of the comments pn the thirst traps are just AI bots trying to boost the appearance of engagement.

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    Hey it sure beats talking to a non-dude about . . . y’know . . feelings. Like that’s ever gonna happen.

    Sure, next thing you’ll want to convince us the objects of lust are human women with their own thoughts, physiology, and preferences. RIGHT!