Workers should learn AI skills and companies should use it because it’s a “cognitive amplifier,” claims Satya Nadella.

in other words please help us, use our AI

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    AI industry needs to encourage job seekers to pick up AI skills (undefined), in the same way people master Excel to make themselves more employable.

    Has anyone in the last 15 years willingly learned excel? It seems like one of those things you have to learn on the job as your boomer managers insist on using it.

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      I did and it’s awesome. People like to shit on Excel, but there is a reason why every business on earth runs on Excel. It’s a great tool and if you really learn it, you can do great things with it.

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      Excel depends on the usage. Way too many people want to use it for what it’s bad at, but technically can do, instead of using it for what it’s good at.

      I’m fairly decent at using Excel, and have automated some database dependent tasks for my coworkers through it, which saves us a lot of time doing menial tasks no one actually wants to do.

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      Funny thing about “AI skills” that I’ve noticed so far is that they are actually just skills in the thing you’re trying to get AI to help with. If you’re good at that, you can often (though not always) get an effective result. Mostly because you can talk about it at a deeper level and catch mistakes the AI makes.

      If you have no idea about the thing, it might look competent to you, but you just won’t be catching the mistakes.

      In that context, I would call them thought amplifiers and pretty effective at the whole “talking about something can help debug the problem, even if the other person doesn’t contribute anything of value because you have to look at the problem differently to explain it and that different perspective might make the solution more visible”, while also being able to contribute some valueable pieces.

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      how else are you going to perform, document, and communicate engineering calculations in a format that is simple, intuitive, flexible, and easy to iterate upon?

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      I did take a few courses on excel over the last 25 years. I don’t use excel that much but most features will never be used by most people.

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      Yeah, very good analogy actually…

      I remember back in the day people putting stuff like ‘Microsoft Word’ under ‘skills’. Instead of thinking ‘oh good, they will be able to use Word competently’, the impression was ‘my god, they think Word is a skill worth bragging about, I’m inclined to believe they have no useful skills’.

      ‘Excel skills’ on a resume is just so vague, people put it down when they just figured out they can click and put things into a table, some people will be able to quickly roll some complicated formula, which is at least more of a skill (I’d rather program a normal way than try to wrangle some of the abominations I’ve seen in excel sheets).

      Using an LLM is not a skill with a significant acquisition cost. To the extent that it does or does not work, it doesn’t really need learning. If anything people who overthink the ‘skill’ of writing a prompt just end up with stupid superstitions that don’t work, and when they first find out that it doesn’t work, they just grow new prompt superstitions to add to it to ‘fix’ the problem.

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        I’d rather program a normal way than try to wrangle some of the abominations I’ve seen in excel sheets

        That’s the way I also think about learning fancy spreadsheet stuff. Spreadsheets are good for putting data into a graph. They’re good for basic numeric stuff where there’s a simple pattern that repeats. But, pretty soon you’re in a situation where you should either have a real database or a real program. If you’re doing a lot of manipulation of data, you should have a program with loops, conditionals, errors, exceptions, etc. and most importantly with comments. If you’re storing a lot of data, you should be using a real database, not hundreds of lines in a spreadsheet.

        If, at the end, you do want something visual, and don’t feel like dealing with a graphics library, you can always export the data to a CSV and import that into a spreadsheet.

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        Microsoft Word’ under ‘skills’.

        Way back in the day a bunch of people endorsed me on linkedin for a bunch of nonsense like that and I manually hid all of it lol

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    Maybe they should look into selling AI CP since it seems to be great at generating that shit

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        They’ll spin it with some BS like “if they’re looking at our generations they won’t touch real children” or some shit like that

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    Take away:

    1. MS is well aware AI is useless.
    2. Nadella admits they invested G$ in something without having the slightest clue what its use-cas would be (“something something rEpLaCe HuMaNs”)
    3. Nadella is blissfully unaware of the “social” image MS already has in the eye of the public. You don’t have our social permission to still live as a company!
  • HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Well you already lost that or rather never actually had that. You all pushed a broken and incomplete product you need to find a use not us…

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      AI is the only “product” that I’ve ever seen where the sales pitch is, “We made it and now you should want it, but you have to figure out why you want it.”

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    Do something useful

    What do you mean, that using ChatGPT for a recipe for eggs, sunny side up without any seasoning or toppings and burning up the electricity of a moderate household for a week with my query isn’t useful?

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      It’s not the query that burns through electricity like crazy, it’s training the models.

      You can run a query yourself at home with a desktop computer, as long as it has enough RAM and compute cells to support the model you’re using (think a few high-end GPUs).

      Training a model requires a huge pile of computer power though, and the AI companies are constantly scraping the internet to stealfind more training material

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    CEOs aren’t people. That’s why they lobbied to have companies recognized as people. Stop giving them a stage.

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      The five stages of corporate grief:

      • lies
      • venture capital
      • marketing
      • circular monetization
      • private equity sale
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      3 hours ago

      Correct, but needs clarification:
      Depression referring to the whole economy as the bubble burst.
      Acceptance is when the government accepts to bail them out because they’re too big and the gov is too dependent on them to let them die.

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      Denial: “AI will be huge and change everything!”

      Anger: “noooo stop calling it slop its gonna be great!”

      Bargaining: “please use AI, we spent do much money on it!”

      Depression: companies losing money and dying (hopefully)

      Acceptance: everyone gives up on it (hopefully)

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        Acceptance: It will be reduced to what it does well and priced high enough so it doesn’t compete with equivalent human output. Tons of useless hardware will flood the market, china will buy it back and make cheap video cards from the used memory.

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      Which seems like good progress. I feel like they were in denial not three weeks ago.