Are you saying “more” is syllabler than -er?
It has an extra mouth shape, but unless you pronounce it “mowar” it’s still one syllable
That’s a wild way to interpret something…
If that was your assumption here, you’re gonna be a lot better off just asking people what they meant and keeping your guesses to yourself. People are just gonna assume you won’t understand anyways with guesses like that.
The sun still rose every day before we knew the planet spins…
Tobacco still caused cancer before the studies came out…
If you’ve studied biopsychology, you know what happens to any offloading of a cognitive function.
That it’s being handed off specifically to AI, just doesn’t matter in the slightest. Because the offloading itself is what causes the atrophy.
The issue here, is what is being offloaded is critical thinking…
Which makes it incredibly difficult to explain what is happening to someone who is experiencing it, somewhat like Alzheimer’s.
People reliant on chatbots to do their critical thinking, simply don’t have the critical thinking to understand the problem. The only way to get them out of it, is making them go cold turkey like with drugs. And eventually the brain will begrudgingly start doing critical thinking again, but it’s gonna take a while, because offloading cognitive tasks from the conscious mind is literally why humans are the dominant species.
It’s why it takes so little time for people to become reliant on it.
The concern is they are going to have to make it super expensive if they can’t get any meaningful efficiency gains.
They’re 100% going to make it more expensive regardless…
Like, they’re pushing it on coders like crack dealers give out their first rock.
Like, you just said you can do things with it you couldn’t without it. How long until you can’t do what you could before without it?
Have you tried lately? Not a guess of what it would be like if you tried. Actually trying to code without it. If you haven’t, you’re going to be shocked how hard it is to resist, and how bad you are at it if you manage to do it manual.
It’s going to be cheap till everyone is hooked, till they’ve gotten a promotion using AI, or forgot how to work without it.
When the choice is to send half your paycheck to the AI or get fired, a lot of people are going to sign over half their checks, just for the health benefits of employment.
They don’t have to replace humans with AI, they know they can’t do that.
But they absolutely can trick people (at least coders) into be coming reliant on something that can increase in price a thousand fold overnight.
C’mon bro, think of Uber or any “disruptive” tech, there’s always what they say they want, and the actual goal that would have stopped anyone from using it to begin with. This shouldn’t need pointed out to people “in tech”
on that impact to the brain.
I mean, I pulled a whole bunch of stuff together in that comment, I’d be shocked if any source existed that touched on every part.
As far as “us” delegating tasks to other parts of the brain, this looks pretty good:
The driving force behind human brain evolution
Although many species can transfer behavior from volitional to habitual function (Poldrack et al., 2005; Barton, 2007; Seger and Spiering, 2011; Krubitzer and Seelke, 2012; Barton and Venditti, 2013), the shift from quadrupedal to bipedal locomotion nonetheless may have been a powerful driver for the rapid elaboration of the distinctively human “delegation” mode of information processing. Bipedality is rare in mammals, seen commonly only in humans and in some apes (Hardman et al., 2002; Alexander, 2004; Doyon et al., 2009). Although bipedality plausibly affords a number of adaptive advantages (e.g., it facilitates surveillance in densely vegetated areas, and frees the arms for other tasks Carrier, 2011), it also imposes a massive information-processing challenge. Compared to the stability conferred by quadrupedal locomotion, a bipedal organism rests its body mass on only two support points. This inherently unstable posture means that even a tiny shift in position will cause a fall, unless the animal instantly detects and responds to that change. Presumably for this reason, quadrupedal animals that resort to bipedality for surveillance typically do so only briefly, or in highly stereotyped poses (as is the case with meerkats). Moving about while bipedal poses extraordinary challenges, whereby the individual must constantly respond to ever-changing subtle shifts in weight distribution (Preuschoft, 2004), reducing its ability to attend to other aspects of its environment (such as the detection of food sources or approaching predators).
Despite these challenges, adult humans spend little time consciously thinking about maintaining their balance as they move around, except when placed in a challenging circumstance, such as walking on a narrow beam or when leaving a pub. The means of achieving that liberation is very clear as one watches a young child learning to walk. This is a long process, with every step initially requiring full concentration. Through time, however, the skills develop as control over fine motor movements improves–and full concentration on movement is no longer needed as the tasks involved become “automatized” and are delegated to other parts of the brain, such as the basal ganglia (Poldrack et al., 2005; Ashby et al., 2010; Seger and Spiering, 2011; Sepulcre et al., 2012) and the cerebellum (Duncan, 2001; Desmurget and Turner, 2010; Balsters and Ramnani, 2011; Callu et al., 2013). Plausibly, then, the adoption of bipedalism in proto-humans posed a strong selective advantage for individuals with brains capable of using their full processing power to learn bipedalism, but that were also able to delegate the basic tasks of walking and running to “lower” neural centers, freeing up the higher segments for detecting unpredictable opportunities and challenges (be they related to predators, food, or social cues), and rapidly responding to that information.
In summary, we suggest that (1) the ability to delegate routine tasks from the cortex to other parts of the brain is more highly developed in humans than other species; and (2) that elaboration arose during our evolutionary history because the computational challenges associated with balancing on two legs enhanced individual fitness in proto-humans who were capable of transferring the control of routine tasks in this way. To this we can add (3) that once this “delegation” mode of neural functioning had evolved, it was co-opted for many other cognitive tasks–essentially, liberating the cortex to deal with novel unpredictable events.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4010745/
Although to be upfront I didn’t take the time to read the whole study, I just skimmed it. I was already aware of how this works from school and just searched real quick for a source
But that study starts out assuming what pushed us to delegation forward brains was how fucking hard it was to stand on two feet without a giant tail. And once we got good at delegating that away from conscious thinking, why wouldn’t we keep delegating everything else as long as there isn’t an immediate negative consequence?
It’s the sylablle count…
1 syllable: er
3 syllables: more
2 syllables: usually “er” but even when typing someone’s spoken accent tends to effect their preference.
Since you prefer “more stupid” I’m curious if you feel like your pronunciation is “longer” than normal? Like you stretch the word out longer like a Southern drawl?
No right or wrong answer, just curious.
The vast amount of people don’t understand how their brain works…
What we think of “us” isn’t our brains, it’s just our consciousness. And that’s just a middle manager that’s getting all types of shit thrown at it.
Our consciousness can’t tell the difference between the prefrontal lobe handling something, or a laptop with a chatbot open.
It just takes the input and processes it.
When we throw stuff to an AI, the part of our brain that normally handles it, just starts doing other stuff.
If you don’t have the AI, your prefontal lobe doesn’t want to take the old stuff back, it’s already got its plate full with the new stuff it picked up.
Your consciousness knows the chatbot can puke out an answer, so when your prefrontal love won’t/can’t do it, you just got hyper focused on getting access to the chatbot.
It’s “making people stupider” but the real problem is it’s abusing how every mammals brain has worked for millions of years. It’s not something people can resist,bits the brain as a whole working as intended. We just didn’t evolve for something that at any moment could become prohibitively expensive.
Think of how Uber was cheap till people needed it.
If people get hooked on cheap AI, they’re not gonna be able to survive without it and will pay anything. I think this is why its pushed on coders so hard, they want everyone to use it so everyone becomes dependent on it. Instead of paying for 4-8 years for a degree, people will have to pay monthly for an AI just to earn a living
That’s the end goal of the techbros. No one being able to work unless they pay for AI.
The difference is a movie doesn’t communicate with the studio’s computers every time you watch it…
Like, this happened so fast, that everyone that was signed on was either a whitelisted review account, or a pirate.
It was/is incredibly easy for them to “hardware ban” everyone who pirated the game already, what’s really fucked is a nonzero amount of people pirating it, have already paid for a legit copy. And may have thought using a new steam account would be fine, then got their whole PC/console banned.
Like, there’s a good amount of people with no critical thinking who just lost the entire 3-5 year life cycle of a game they’d legitimately paid for already. If they want to play the game, they need to dive deeper into piracy or get a new PC/console.
It’s a fucking shitshow.
But anyways, people shouldn’t conflate downloading a movie to downloading a game. There’s a lot more consequences to downloading a game, especially if it can do multiplayer.
After the game releases tho…
Yeah, I had already heard that the way Forza works pirates can use multiplayer and are indistinguishable from paying players. Which is why with how rare that is and how rare this pre-release crack is…
I wouldn’t be surprised if this was intentional to weed out a bunch of people who were planning on pirating asap.
The only way pirates could be picked out, was seeing if they were dumb enough to show up early enough to stand out. Pirate it on the 21st, and I think you’re just good for life… (Assuming you keep updating your cracked copy)
I really don’t think it’s a thing, or maybe just for some high end gaming laptops? Which, yeah, most things on expensive gaming laptops don’t actually make sense. They just throw shit on there to justify prices
Do you have an example?
I tried to find something, but the only mention was five years old saying Alienware might try it.
It sounds stupid but with people using laptops on beds I could see the idea behind it.
If they increased the size of those little rubber feet to keep the screen and keyboard separate, then that would completely solve the issue.
I want to see if no one’s thought of that yet since it seemed so obvious, but I just can’t find any real example of keyboard cold air intakes. Are you talking about actual vents? Going between the keys may just be an urban legend from what I’m seeing.
Can’t you just disable sleep on close? Fuckin noobs
They’d have to know how to use a computer to know that…
And if they knew how to use a computer, they wouldn’t be using AI to do their job.
A big thing no one is talking about, is how each worker’s goal here isn’t to build a fully functioning thing, it’s to make something “good enough” that it gets off your desk and is no longer your problem. It doesn’t matter if the “creator” knows how it works or even if it works. Just enough to get a rubber stamp from your manager, then they move on to a new one.
Since most “AI coders” will just keep typing “try again” till it works, eventually they’ll get something that “works”, we won’t fully realize the damage for a while
But pretty soon shit is going to start breaking all over and no one will know how to fix it besides typing into an AI “try again”. No corp or government will pay humans to start over with something maintainable…
And this is the most boring way possible we get to War Hammer 40k
yeah man but when i have an issue i want a solution to that problem
I understand that and even explained what someone like that would do ahead of time…
you could even just make a post here and post the solution you found too
After you find the answer, you could make a post about the issue and the fix. Preserving that knowledge on Lemmy. If others do that as well, then eventually it will have a base of knowledge.
Which means more people coming here for answers, more people viewing those communities, answering and asking new questions.
Like, if you’re just lazy and don’t want to contribute anything, cool…
But why bother arguing about this?
Why is this more important to you?
If you have a question, ask it on lemmy then…
The first people asking on reddit couldn’t just look up an old thread. And they may have waited days for an answer.
But someone answered, and then everyone else with that we just had to search. And the knowledge spread.
If you just search reddit…
You do understand how that’s not helping anything, right?
Like, you could even just make a post here and post the solution you found too. But the only way to fix your complaint is asking questions on lemmy…
Why do you still go back to it?
Like,every valid reasons (there’s lots) to not use it, doesnt matter on the amount of use. Engaging with it or not is the deciding factor.
So I’m genuinely curious why you just reduced usage
They people who famously hate QR codes and couldn’t use them if they tried?
They will just not go to that website.
That does sound more correct
I just noped the fuck out as soon as I saw “scan a website QR with your cellphone”
Like, imagine all the fake captchas that will compromise your phone…
Youd have to be an idiot to think even authentic ones are safe, they’re gonna tie your browser to you to help AI datacwnters consolidate information on us.
Pretty ironic the author used AI to write a slop article about how no one wants to see anyone else’s AI slop…
Completely and utterly unaware that she’s still flinging AI slop and people feel the same about hers that she feels about everyone else’s.
This requirement will kick in the moment the system suspects suspicious activity. At that point, reCAPTCHA will forgo the old image puzzles and require you to scan a QR code with your smartphone to prove you’re human. Although this will stop an autonomous bot in its tracks, it also adds another step to verification. But the problem runs a little deeper than the annoyance of a single additional step.
Fuck all of that noise…
If chrome starts asking people to pull out their phone and scan a QR code, people are just going to stop using chrome…
It’s still fucking ridiculous that billionaire literally just bought the world’s computing supply for a decade to build something no one wants and no one even knows how to make profitable…
It’s getting to the point where it only makes sense if they don’t want us to have computers anymore.
Evolution always finds a way…
I don’t think you understood a single thing I typed…