• TORFdot0@lemmy.world
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        I mean if your plans were to have a simple life to do whatever you want devoid of responsibility then they definitely ruin those plans.

        For the right people, plans are ok being ruined

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    My parents: “no sex before the wedding”

    Also my parents: “…and then we had no other option than to drink wine, and that’s how we became a couple.”

    Mmmkay.

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    Having cool and upfront parents when it comes to sex can also be problematic awkward. My mother was a social worker in New York and Philly during the sixties and seventies. She use to tell me (as a pre-pubescent child) about how she use to have to put young girls (10-13) on birth control and how some already had a child at 13. I hit puberty at 10 so she gave me the talk about how regular masturbation was healthy and showed me how to put on a condom.

    Decades later and I’m still emotionally scarred. *shiver*

    EDIT: Fixed my wording as it made it sound like I don’t approve of the proactive approach. I very much so do.

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      That’s not so much being upfront and honest with sex as it is trauma dumping on you. The fact that you’re emotionally scarred from it decades later is a big clue here.

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        I am curious what they meant by “emotionally scarred”. Like, reality can be harsh, and learning that leaves an impression, but that doesn’t mean that the process was messed up, although it could have been.

        Awkward is not bad, not always. It depends on the details.

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        I think you meant “emotionally scarred” but if I’m honest, “emotionally scared” is also true.

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      and showed me how to put on a condom.

      Decades later and I’m still emotionally scarred. *shiver*

      I really hope that’s just poor phrasing…

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        On a banana dude! Same as they do (or did) in school. Sheesh!

        LOL, it was poor phrasing.

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      You would have preferred being uninformed? Yeah her methods and timing might not have been the best, but take it from someone who knows - you were better off.

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        Oh, I 100% agree and I love my mother for that and many other things she did where she went above and beyond to prepare me for life. Still, that was…something.

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          Having an awkward talk awkwardly: ew. Having an awkward talk openly: also ew.

          Good for your mother, though. I imagine you learned from her what many of us learned from the internet, books, media, peers, partners, and other sources.

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            Getting sex ed and intercourse tips from my mother was horrifying, but it saved me from many mistakes. Not all, but many.

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    This is why this form of moralising fails. Nobody told you not to eat poop, it IS horrible, it tastes that way, it’s horrible for your health and it leaves you with a nasty breath. Sex is/can be extremely enjoyable, it’s a calorie-negative activity even! And because it is, it had to be regulated, and God regulated it and left it as the gift between two people who know, love and commit to each other, it’s the only way it will not only “taste” good but be good for your psyche and soul’s health (and physical health too cause fucking around can have the known medical consequences). But of course, nobody can force you, you have to accept this yourself and enforce it to yourself.

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      Nobody told you not to eat poop

      If you have friends who have kids, please ask them how often they’ve gotta tell their infant not to stick their poopy fingers in their mouth. I guarantee your parents had to do it with you too.

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        Well, that’s true, but at the stage of development those I interact with here are, I assume their palate, sense of smell and understanding of reality is advanced enough to have a baseline dislike of poop. Unless they’re some freaky Berliners or something, idk. 😅

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      a) god is only pretend; and b) you don’t need an imaginary divine punisher to learn that sex is a special thing that should be based on respect and trust-- and while it can be better if love is part of the equation, it doesn’t have to be. let alone some stone age binding ritual of “you’re my property now”

      i agree that some regulation should surround sex, but “no sex unless married” has to be one of the most useless requirements

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        I know that’s how it is for you and your whole so-called civilization but that’s the whole point: you need to deprogram. Hedonistic nihilism is not a solid foundation to build anything that doesn’t turn into a cancer for the rest humanity.

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          premarital sex is not “hedonistic nihilism,” and you have literally nothing to support such a stupid claim, other than maybe your bible, which–i’m sorry-- i fucking reject as a valid authority figure

          if you want to talk about “cancer for humanity,” then we can talk about RELIGION if you prefer

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            You reject everything as an “authority figure”/guidance besides your basest desires and whims, lol, that’s the whole problem. The difference in your society lies simply in opportunity, Billy Bob touches her niece the same way Diddy touched whoever he could, cause you believe in nothing… besides rebels like John Brown and miss Greta who actually believe in something and stand by it.

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              nope. as i said before, sex should be based on respect and trust, and it can be even better with love, but love doesn’t have to be involved for it to be a good experience. the bare minimum is mutual consent.

              your make-believe god butting in and judging people based on whether they’re married or not is straight fucking bullshit.

              i’m not telling you how to live your life. i’m telling you that you don’t get to tell everyone else how to live their life.

              edit: to reply to your ninja edit-- unsurprisingly, you’re trying to equate premarital sex with pedophilia, rape, and every other fucking disgusting thing, which, again, is bullshit. to reiterate, there is literally NOTHING wrong with two consenting adults having sex without being married. your religion has made you hate this thing so much that you have to convince yourself that it’s basically the same as raping children in order to rationalize it.

              what the fuck is wrong with you?

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                I do get to, I’m doing it right now! I’m not forcing you though, nobody can, I can only disapprove of your actions and ideas and remind you to correct them like a good brother.

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                  LOL you’ve done nothing but support my position instead of your own. good job “brother”

                  tell your wife i’m sorry on behalf of you

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      Enjoyable sex is enjoyable sex, regardless of the number, type, or genders the participants choose to include. As long as everybody involved wants it to happen that way (and it’s a relatively informed choice), what business is it of anybody else’s? Everyone has their personal preferences in a multitude of areas, and sex is just one of them. If you want your preferences to be considered valid and acceptable, then you must allow others to have the same rights.

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        I don’t understand what this has to do with anything I said, lol. You don’t believe in God, so you don’t believe in things being objectively valid or not, some limits being strict regardless of whims, this is not for you. You go have your consensual orgies and mudplay in sex clubs in Berlin, I’m not stopping you. 🤷

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          You don’t believe in God, so you don’t believe in things being objectively valid or not,

          To borrow from Monty Python: “Explain the logic underlying that conclusion, please.”

          The rest of your gibberish is baseless nonsensical crap & assumptions attempting to validate your propensity to be judgemental of that which you obviously do not understand. Typical religious wingnut.

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            I think I understand sex, temptation and the hedonistic slippery slopes of life just fine, lol, I’m a person like everyone else! Anyway, sure, whatever, to you your deeds and to me mine.

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      So basically, if I include food with sex, it’s a calorie positive activity, and none of that applies.

      I need to open a pizza shop, this is going to get expensive fast otherwise. Now, who wants some meat-lovers? Extra large, of course 😏