Department of war
The new name is oddly truthful, really not in line with their common stance on truth.
for being a ‘department of war’, one would think they’d actually be good at it.
Yeah, but the mask is now off, the bar is lowered.
Interestingly “ministry of war” used to be quite frequent names for these institutions. The “defense” euphemism only came later in many countries. Austria-Hungary also had a “Kriegsministerium” (“war ministry”). It also had a much more badass double headed eagle bolted onto the building. Well, the building still has, after the country started a big war that was also the last thing that ministry did.
I mean, I get and like the honesty. But keep in mind the administration that’s doing this; it’s different when a fascist country says “ministry of war” from when, say, a country like New Zealand or some other innocuous country like Norway or Portugal or current day Japan.
When the current fascist-US admin says they’re going to be ultra aggressive, they not only end up being ultra aggressive, but they end up being ultra ultra aggressive and fascist.
I get your point, but Austro-Hungary started WW1, not nothing either. The reason I was mentioning it is that the US might just as well be in its late days imperialism. One of these wars might actually end the days of US Empire.
Will end the days of US empire. That’s the plan.
trump is not your typical fascist strongman. He is an intentionally destructive force, sent in to make the country insolvent and unmanageable. So the old structure can be saddled with the debt of the people and organizations that are destroying it, and its physical resources can be parted-out.
wanna be temu hilter
How much do you want to bet he studied that exact photo to get the iconography and pose right?
Obama raised his Hand like Hitler while waving. It was only for a few moments. What are we even going at atp?
Not even close but ok, keep apologizing for Nazis there buddy
Pretty sure I didn’t though…
You did, though.
Yes you can interpret this. I tried to tell you that I didn’t or especially didn’t mean too.
Yeah, you did
You’re either disingenuous, or dumb
Yes interpreted indirectly. No, didn’t mean to and never will.
Always with the whataboustism.
Alright, let’s play.
A guy who hasn’t been in charge of anything of consequence in a decade once did a thing where he raised his arm.
Whatabout ICE murdering people. Whatabout violating the constitution and trying to get rid of right of citizenship. Whatabout violation of the constitution about detainment without cause. Whatbout pulling aid from organizations that kept children alive, causing their deaths. Whatbout violating arms length financial dealing rules. Whatabout deragulating climate policies and making the world objectively fucking worse. Whatbout starting a war that was settled before someone had to put their eensy mushroom stamp on it and caused a global financial meltdown. Whatbout the fucking rapes. Whatabout the fucking cons and grifts.
But yeah… Obama raised his arm…
I could go on for hours whatabouting.
Instead I will say everyone in that administration is a garbage human being supporting a garbage human being and anyone who thinks they are OK or handwaves away their atrocities is also a garbage human being.
They all deserve to burn in the hell they claim to believe in.
Edit: I will also add, anyone who tries to whatabout away atrocities is also a garbage human being.
Yes my comment is sh’te, yes I didn’t care for the humour in this post, yes I decided to engage in this post. Everything you just said SHOULD though be taken seriously, 'cause it is not just a massive problem but just grotesque, against human rights and absolute fkery.
So, what I’m going at, my comment deserves the hate, but not 'cause of my supposed world views, but rather 'cause I just didn’t care for the joke for once.
I’m not going to delete my comment 'cause I know I would do the same as you all.
Pretty sure it is 'cause I’m just pissed off of my fellow leftists doing extreme / just dumb things and saying extreme / just dumb things.
Cheers
Always with the whataboustism.
More a vulgar critique of asthetics without regard for material policy.
I might go with “Hitler Also Invaded North Africa” if I wanted a proper comparison. But you’ll get mega-yelled-at if you draw a straight line between Operation Odyssey Lightning and Operation Sonnenblume.
anyone who tries to whatabout away atrocities
President Obama, who hoped to sow peace, instead led the nation in war
Deflecting to a guy who has been out of power for a decade is still whataboutism. I don’t give a shit about litigating Obama’s record when we’re actively dealing with someone far fucking worse right now.
a guy who has been out of power for a decade
You keep bringing up this Adolf fellow, but he hasn’t been in power in a long time. So why would he be relevant?
Nobody in this thread brought up “Adolf” except you, one comment ago.
Imagine trying to smugly lecture someone on history only to get completely clowned by your own post history two inches above your reply.
Arguing with your own hallucinations must be exhausting.
I’m not saying this image is generated, but it is at least a little bit weird that a reverse image search only shows this specific comparison. I even tried Google Images for a “Visual Match” instead of just Tineye, and nothing.
That, and Hitler’s eyes look weird, and the folded Nazi flags in the back look garbled. Circumstantially, it’d be extremely fucking weird if whoever planned this layout put a plant obstructing the view of the symbol on the podium.
The bottom right looks like the top of a heart, it’s a screengrab from a video
It’s definetly slop.
So we’re all going to mass downvote the slop so as to deter further slop, right? Right?
I guess
spreading disinformationdunking on the opponent everyone already hates is more important than standards concerning slop. =.=
It’s definitely not a good sign when we’re talking about a picture of Hitler being a Nazi is AI generated, but it’s a given that Hegseth being a Nazi is legitimate.
Hegseth probably did the AI himself.
The image of Hegeseth is real, at the 5 second mark in this video
The image of Hitler may be altered
The image of Hegeseth is real
Sorry, I should’ve been more clear; I was never questioning the Hegseth image.
The image of Hitler may be altered
Generated, not altered. I don’t think this speech footage/image existed at all. The angle is weird along with the other points.
Yeah pretty sure it’s generated. Look at the flags in the background, the black in the centre doesn’t make sense on a lot of them. And the people in the bottom left corner also look strange. Another strange point is the swastika below the eagle: the upper arm seems to be a bit shorter than the others. And the style of the eagle itself looks strange to me, but I’m not a historian, so that is just feeling,not knowledge.
It’s very clearly generated. None of the flags make any sense, there are so many odd things that are AI specific details.
There has to be some image that’s similar to this though.There probably is, but to OPs original question, if you’re going out of your way to find footage of Hitler that matches Kegsbreath, then it probably is a coincidence.
The Swastika is somehow completely flat but the flag is folded. It’s a not real image
We must be more critical as a people of political images these days, the hitler image is AI… :/
One instance is a coincidence
You have this picture here as one ( we won’t even talk about he made the eagle more Nazi like)
They use a Nazi rune for the stage at the RNC where they proudly post the “joke” that they are domestic terrorists.
Their side is EXCLUSIVELY made up of Holocaust deniers.
Their side is made up of EXCLUSIVELY of this country’s neo Nazis and white supremists
Stephen miller plagiarized Goebbels
Trump kept and read Mein Kampf next to his bed
Trump, Vance, and musk campaign for and donate money to the German AfD party who are KNOWN to be NAZIS
Elon Musk “jokingly” sieg Heiled twice so forcibly that he grunted
They have built, and are still building , concetration camps.
Their new illegal bunker has a, very legal I’m sure, medical research facility in it
They all constantly talk about Eugenics.
They are bringing back public executions
This is all aside from. Their policy decisions. At this point, if I meet you on the street and you say that they ARENT NAZIS, we will have problems
Not how exclusively is used in this context and unfortunately not true with the correct phrasing with Yakubites running around some parts of the DNC
Trump read… bwahahaha thats a good one.
Nazi reichsadler + Spanish fascist arrow symbol.
Hegseth is a Hitler loving alcoholic who is actively ruining America and the world, but the eagle motif was present far before Nazis were a thing. Arrows are also a pretty universal symbol. I’m not saying you can’t draw parallels, but it’s not like he designed the seal.
Yeah the US was using eagle and fasci symbolism long before fascism was a thing, because fascists and the founding fathers were both Romaboos. Also before anyone says the founding fathers were fascists id argue they weren’t simply because the fascism of their era was the absolute monarchies, they were assholes and hypocritical jackasses though.
Proto-fascists.
Proto would imply that there’s a direct line between them and fascism but it’s more like a deranged series of foot paths that are just as likely to lead to anarchism. Reminder folks from John Brown to Ho Chi Minh had respect for the revolutionaries even with their own critiques, also as I noted there is a far more direct line from the institutions of feudalism and monarchy to fascism. But political ideology at the time was weird and hard to classify within taxonomy, for example the Utopians who were the proto-socialists explicitly were also pro-slavery because they couldn’t think of other ways for mass manufacturing.
There is a direct line, the US helped to fund, create, and embrace fascism. After the defeat of the Axis powers the US went on to spread fascism around the globe. This, in my opinion, is not really up for debate unless you are an apologist or someone who is in denial.
My point is moreso that while the modern US is at best fascist aligned at worst outright fascistic the first 50 years or so fall into the same category as Rome, the Carolingian empire, or Babylon wherein it was far enough in the past that our modern descriptions don’t quite work due to just how different the world was. For context it wasn’t until the latter half of those first 50 years that steam power starts to refine enough to be usable let alone viable.
I try to caution inflicting modernism unto the past and that includes describing ideologies and tendencies that at the time didn’t exist, because you get weirdness like how Julius Caesar was technically to the left of Mamdani when it came to food distribution and rent increases for context Caesar stopped the collection of rent outright and gave out free grain in quantities enough to feed a family.
The modern US is clearly neofascist, but did have strong fascist roots as well. Hitler based the final solution on the genocide of the Native Americans. US industrialists like Ford bankrolled the Nazi and Italian Fascist empires. He even went so far as to build factories in Germany and let them keep them and all the profits. US companies such as IBM gave material support to the Nazi helping with the census of Jews and the logistics of sending them to the death camps.
I find it funny that you caution against bringing modernism to the past, but then bring up a lot of ancient history to link to present time. Obviously, we view all history through a modern lens. This is a good thing though because it lets us see past the bullshit rhetoric and propaganda like liberty and freedom for what they really were.
I’m not saying they created them, but I’m still not convinced at all that their use of fascist iconography is coincidental. The combination of symbols and presentation reeks of it. It’s a dogwhistle like so much of what they do.
For instance, the reverse of the US quarter for quite a number of decades:
It’s just that in this case they decided to stylize this one to make it look extra Hitlery.
The one behind him is actually specifically for the department of defense (he calls it war).
Ctrl+F blue seal on this page: https://www.war.gov/Brand-Guide/
He did initiate a rebranding, but the straight wings have been a feature of this seal since before his rebrand.
Rear-echelon motherfucker wants to wear Hugo Boss. And maybe something he can’t take off.
It is ironic that his flavour of fascism includes adoring israel not hating it. Anyway, he’s not smart enough to be a very successful villain, hope to see him removed soon
Hitler hated the communists, but sided with the Soviet Union until attacking them was his next step.
I don’t think this is the case here, but these people are like children playing villains for as long as their power allows them
They love to force suffering on others.
It’s like a pressure release valve for them. When they make others suffer it slightly lessens their own terror for a moment.
Whatever bullshit they have to say or do, incantations, prayers, dumb hats, whatever to get to the part where millions suffer, they’ll do it.
It’s a coincidence that someone ai sloped a pic of hitler to look like keggy boy?
What you don’t think that there is historical photography of Hitler doing that?
Lemme know if you find one.
The eagle is clutching arrows, representing a fasces, the root of the word fascism, representing the power of the state. Traditionally depicted with an axe at the centre, a fasces was a tool used by the roman armu to discipline soldiers. An axe for decapetation, rods for beating.
these things are everywhere un modern nation states, but I’m told it’s not important, it doesnt mean what i think it means.
it is also the root of the word f*ggot, a bundle of sticks.
:3
Eh, the fasces has a different meaning when you don’t include the axe. Unless you think fascism is when people work together.
The new Wolfenstein looks like shit.
RAM prices
Hitler had one ball. Piss Pot Pete has none.
Yes… Nazis, they’re all Nazis…
Goldberg fallacy in full effect.
I’m not familiar with the Goldberg fallacy and a quick google search failed me. What does it mean?
Maybe they meant Godwin’s law but now it is a fallacy because they really are nazis
American fascism was a huge inspiration for German fascists.
E.g. Bellamy salute
That wasn’t what the Nazis took as inspiration, so much as Jim Crow laws, and the extermination of indigenous peoples.
Lebensraum was just Manifest Destiny for Germans.
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