And I will argue that is some very dubious context given how people are being treated. Like people are disappearing and you’re out here arguing they did a crime. Great job. Many of them aren’t even undocumented.

Yes and further up the person was talking about how no person is illegal. So why are you even arguing?

Yes, breaking the law is illegal. Do you understand that doesn’t make the person illegal or even a felon?

Yes, exactly like that. The act is illegal. Not the person. It’s not even a felony for heavens sake.

“fail to participate in the legal system”

Given my own experience with a brother-in-law being deprorted to a country where he cannot legally work, this sounds like a euphemism. We participated in the legal system, lawyers and all.

Two things can be true. Still shouldn’t hold a teenager wholly responsible for being scammed.

That’s the point. We should not make our children feel bad for not knowing better when we ourselves aren’t doing any better. Show some fucking empathy instead of saying you’re shit out of luck.

I do get therapy, thanks for the concern random stranger. I hope the same is true for you and that you understand that just because bad things happened to you doesn’t mean we should give such things a free pass and make ourselves emotionally unavailable to empathize with our children.

It’s like a parking ticket. Is everyone who had a traffic violation now an illegal person?

Amazing parenting to let them hurt themselves and their friends because you couldn’t educate them well enough to avoid a scam.

Edit: I am not saying the parent should have educated the child better, I am just saying when you go down this path of “well you should have known better” then the responsibility is on the parents to teach the kids better.

Exhibit A for why everyone needs therapy. I guess it’s little consolation that people reap what they sow.

You know what’s also a learning experience? Getting mugged. I hope you learn compassion before you learn that lesson.

People saying because it’s a woman but honestly I was thinking it works because you’re creating a small human connection in a system that alienates us from each other, providing “value” we didn’t know we nedded

It’s one of those “every accusation is a confession”. People are thinking about themselves when talking about others.

It’s what Kirk would have wanted RIP

They write the rules and we use it as an excuse to not escalate.

Person unaffected by past bad decisions doesn’t see how that’s a problem.

This is why we should lock down the OS to prevent people from creating databases of people. There are so many applications out there asking for people’s DOB and that’s because we let people just install whatever app they want. There’s absolutely no positive use case for that.

To be clear, the punishment wasn’t him loosing 2B, he wouldn’t even notice the difference. The punishment was being told he was wrong by a jury of his “peers”.

Yes, so you should ask for a big discount.