• massive_bereavement@fedia.io
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    2 months ago

    Police is the best example of Maslow’s hammer: “it is tempting, if the only tool you have is a hammer, to treat everything as if it were a nail.”

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      I find the reverse to also be true.

      It is tempting, when an object needs percussive adjustment, to treat every tool as if it were a hammer.

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      Don’t know this specific situation, but there are animals in captivity because they’re unable to be released back into the wild for various reasons. Things like animals being actively rehabilitated. Or ones that are now animal ambassadors used to teach people about the species or parts of human society that negatively affect wildlife. Maybe because they are unable to fly anymore, or they imprinted on humans, are unable to forage or hunt properly, etc.

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        For sure. That’s a small minority of the animals that have to live in captivity for our “entertainment” though.

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          It really depends on the facility. Some are better than others. They vary wildly and it’s hard for you as a consumer to know which ones are good and which are bad. Some large zoos have extensive conservation programs and focus around education, and some are just animals in jail for entertainment. From the outside it’s hard to tell the difference a lot of the time.

          It’s one of the reasons I support Alveus Sanctuary and their recent expansions and future plans. Their facilities and programs are based around video streaming and chat interaction, instead of in person exhibits. They have collaborative events with streamers, etc. in person to help further their reach to new people and educate viewers that otherwise may never interact at all with that type of content. Otherwise all of the animals have limited human interaction only with the employees. Those in person collaborations are always about educating the viewers about the animals and various societal links related to them. Things like pesticide use on bugs and how that propagates up the food chain, selective breeding and trade of exotic animals, amphibians and environmental pollution, etc.

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            If they keep animals confined without a clear purpose for the benefit of that animal then I don’t care. “Oh we keep some childern locked up to fund our kindergarden with the revenue we get from people being able to see them” kinda logic.

            The reason a lot of zoos have conservation programs is because they need to replace the captive animals I’d wager…

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              “Oh we keep some childern locked up to fund our kindergarden with the revenue we get from people being able to see them” kinda logic.

              There’s something wrong with your brain if you can’t (refuse to) understand the difference.

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            No some people are too small-minded to understand the layera of long term benefits provided by good zoos.

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        Guy who used to let his cat out here, the medical costs became too much for us at one point, so we no longer let that orange bastard out. He lost like 4-5 of his 9 lives to cars.

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        In Australia there is an expectation that people keep their cats inside because those little murder machine are able to decimate a significant amount of our native fauna. I was shocked when I moved to the UK for a few years to find out that a typical requirement for getting a cat there through legitimate sources included committing to letting them roam outside.

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          In Australia, I’m surprised the local fauna doesn’t decimate the cats.

          In some densely populated cities, cats help control the rat population.

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            While they are in no way related to rodents, a lot of Australia’s fauna are effectively just mice of varying sizes without the rapid breeding.

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          “Humans are destroying the planet and drive a lot of the fauna towards extinction. Let’s blame…” spins wheel… “Cats.”

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            Plot twist: They are there because of us! There are many reasons why biodiversity is rapidly declining. That doesn’t mean that cats are not wreaking havoc on the local bird population:

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              Why are US numbers way off the chart for cats and windows? Is the US overrun with cats and murderous windows? How do you make sure the windows stay friendly towards humans? Do you export bad windows to Russia?

              There are so many questions…

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                  Adjusting for population the numbers should only be 10 times higher, 1.96 billion for cats and 250 million for windows. Cats are close to equal but I’m still concerned about your windows.

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            Yeah well cats aren’t native to Australia, humans brought them here so that’s on us, the common house cat is an apex predator here, cat owners need to take some responsibility for their murder machines or we end up with more 20 kg feral cats that can take out a kangaroo

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              Nitpick, but cats aren’t an “apex” predator in any environment. They are hunted by pretty much every carnivore at least as big as a coyote, including large birds of prey.

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                They are apex predators in Australia. There are no large carnivors that take them out. Dingoes are not common, a cat would give a Goanna a run for its money, cats don’t go in the water so sharks are a different environment, crocodiles live in a small portion of the country. A cat will hunt snakes, snakes will typically only defend, but not all snakes are poisonous and cats have been known to win against the poisonous ones. Wedge tailed eagles again are not everywhere and are mostly just scavengers. Emus are fucking idiots.

                When cats get out here they go feral and eat everything in the immediate area. The feral cats that have been feral for generations are significantly bigger and more aggressive than a house cat, and will actively attack sheep.

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                  There aren’t enough large predators to keep their population in check. That’s not the same thing as being the apex. Dingoes would be more common if they weren’t so widely killed at the behest of whining farmers (we have a similar problem with gray wolves and mountain lions).

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                They are in New Zealand, where the problem is worse than in Australia. New Zealand has zero native land predators. There are some birds of prey that can hunt invasive stoats and rats, but cats are effectively uncontested (with the exception of humans performing population control).

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                  Fair enough, I should know better than to use absolute statements in nature and that does highlight the delicacy of small island ecology. (It’s still true for Australia though which has enough dangerous animals for the domestic cat to be firmly a “mesopredator”)

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    Donkeys are such sweeties. I’ve never met one that hasn’t been a happy, friendly little critter.

    Mules are the ones you gotta worry about being total dickheads.

    When I first heard about HeeHaw, I legit teared up. Bonds with equines is something different than anything else. I’ve never been closer to any creature, both human and animal, than I have been with my horses. I can’t imagine how devastated HeeHaw’s family is…

    This cop deserves to be stripped of everything at the very least. He should go to prison, but I’d settle for him being fired and being unable to own a gun or be a cop ever again.

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    I feel kinda weird about that particular picture being used as a meme… This was when bush was told about 911.

    I don’t know… Seems kinda… Insensitive.

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        This is just pure stupid. You go to someone’s farm, unannounced, I assume enter their pasture, and then get surprised when one of the animals comes up to you and start making noise? He’s lucky he didn’t catch a bullet for wandering into someone’s property unannounced.

        How about this, take his gun away, and I know a field that has a bull in rut that might have the “missing person” he was looking for, he can go right out in the middle and look around all he likes.

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        that fucking cop should go straight to jail, charged with torturing an animal, charged with killing an animal, charged for trespassing, charged for destruction of property, then swiftly convicted and sentenced to a decade or more in prison without parole. and upon release never be allowed to own firearms again, never be allowed to work in law enforcement or private security or private investigation ever again, and be barred from working or living with animals.

        and that’s my nice, measured, restrained, internet friendly reply.

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    This isn’t like Harambe. The way to make Harambe equivalent would be if Harambe was killed because some cop wandered into his enclosure while looking for a missing person and managed to shoot him before Harambe ripped his arms off for trying to taze him.

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    officials have launched an investigation into the shooting and placed the unidentified officer on administrative leave

    Funny; that’s the same thing that happens when they shoot black people

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      Unions are very effective at protecting members, 'tis unfortunate that police unions are the last really effective ones.