• merc@sh.itjust.works
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    It seems to me like the world has had 3 phases:

    • Phase 1: People own media on records, tapes, etc. because that’s the only way to listen to what you want whenever you want. The only alternative is radio, where you listen to what the DJ thinks you should hear. If you buy something once, you can listen to it whenever you want forever. (Or at least as long as the medium holds up)
    • Phase 2: It was relatively easy to get the media you wanted on demand, but it wasn’t always legal, because the copyright cartels were used to a certain way of doing business and didn’t like disruption. During this phase people still bought read-only media in stores. But, they also sometimes bought blank media and filled it up from their computers at home.
    • Phase 3: Everything is now online, and you no longer own media. In this phase you can listen to / watch whatever you want, but you don’t get to own anything, and you have to pay monthly if you don’t want your media viewing / listening to be interrupted by ads. In this phase, media you love can just disappear if someone loses the license to stream it, or the copyright owner decides to pull it or modify it. In this version someone like George Lucas can decide that the version of Star Wars you grew up on should change, and you now have to accept his new version.

    Unfortunately, long-term storage hasn’t kept pace with short-term storage and bandwidth. You can make someone a “mix tape” that’s a USB stick, but if someone puts it on a shelf it might not be readable in 5 years. You could save the original version of Star Wars to a NAS. But, if your friend wants to borrow it, it’s not as easy as grabbing a case off the bookshelf and handing it over.

    I keep hoping that one of these “crystal storage” mechanisms takes off. Then we can much more easily be data hoarders, keeping everything, and not relying on a continued subscription to a streaming service for our favourite media.

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    Feels like the article is slightly off base, the people today looking for something physical and memorable have been buying vinyl. In 2026 most people I know don’t have a CD player let alone a CD burner. But lots them do buy and play vinyl and have record players for that purpose.

    Or… if the article is just a nostalgia deep dive then why the commitment to CDs? You could do the same passing around USB sticks if the purpose is to share music with friends.

    Also wonder if the article writer’s own discs actually still work, burned discs don’t last that long. They mention having a a whole box of old discs but I don’t know if they actually tried to play them and checked them for errors. A while back I was doing some data recovery for a friend who had all her stuff burned to discs over the years, turned out about 20% of her discs were either unreadable or full of errors.

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    My friend and I got an old optiplex and upgraded it with a burner so we can make CDs. It’s actually quite nice to have a physical medium for music in the car, and make mixes for different moods that you can switch between. We also know some people with older cars that only have CD and radio or the Bluetooth sucks so we’ll make CDs for them too. Tons of fun and you can buy a usb CD / DVD burner for like $10 or $15 and CD-Rs are fairly cheap.

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    I think people undervalue cd/dvd/bluray. Up to this day it’s best format for giving away data like family photos.

    With any usb device there’s much larger security risk. Also people want to get storage back.

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    Nothing’s stopping you from burning a CD right now. But ultimately, these kinds of nostalgic memories are less about the tech itself and more about remembering the happy times of youth. Bringing back the burned CD won’t bring those back I’m afraid.

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      Actually…

      I got married seven years ago. We could bring our own music to the ceremony, but it had to be on audio CD.

      None of our modern computers have any optical drive, but we have an USB DVD burner. We just couldn’t get any modern system to complete a burn, it just kept failing halfway through.

      After many hours I installed OS X on my MorphOS PowerBook G4 from 2005 to use the built-in drive and burn through iTunes.

      It used to be a cakewalk. Now not so much.

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        You probably had a faulty DVD burner then. I did it within the last year, using my modern computer and a cheap external drive.

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          Or just burned too quickly on poor quality media. It seems like as dvd drives got better the media got worse. But 15 years ago they stopped getting better, and the media kept getting worse.

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      I agree with your point. However that’s not what the article is about. It’s about the social and aesthetically engaging aspects that come with physical media compared to the utilitarian services where music is presented like “tap water”, and the sense of indifference that’s created through abundance, hurting the artists financially.

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      What’s stopping me is that I haven’t had a CD burner in like 12 or 15 years. But you’re right about the rest of it.

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        External USB ones are free in boxes of Frosted Flakes these days.

        I have a genuine honest to goodness 5.25" bay mounted Blu Ray burner in my tower right now. Hey, you never friggin’ know. It comes in handy every once in a while. There’s a machine in my basement with an LS-120, a Zip drive, and a 5.25" floppy drive in it that all still work. Occasionally I still find myself needing to get some monumentally important ancient file off of some kind of floppy disk or other for somebody.

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      Yeah, I miss the days of making my own mixes, sharing music with friends, etc.

      I recently ripped a bunch of CDs and one of the batches was my folio in my car. I do not fucking miss having to handle CDs. The slightest scratch on the foil and it’s done, scratches on the plastic and it’s done. You had a hour and some minutes max that you could pack into one is you didn’t have an mp3 capable player.

      I love getting music on CDs, I love listening to an album straight through and the hidden song at the end coming after a bunch of silence, and making a mix that flows like a God. But it’s so much nicer having all of my music ripped on my server.

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    And why is burning an audio file onto a CD better than having the same file on flash storage?

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      Why do some people like vinyl? Why did the iPod’s scroll wheel evoke joy when used? Why is the OG PSP’s UMD drive clicking open and closed enjoyable?

      If you’re looking to abstractly optimize consumption and sharing efficiency, it’s worse. But if you’re looking to optimize personal connection to the art and to other people, having some tactile interaction and giving a physical object that embodies the music arguably does that better.

      I’d even bet that if you scanned brain activity of someone opening an MP3 versus someone putting in a disc and hitting a play button, the disc’s physical interaction very likely creates stronger neural pathways that trigger more chemical rewards.

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      That authors’ view is explained in the article.

      Unlike a burned CD from a friend, there’s no social contract that compels me to sit with something new, and take the time to better understand it. There’s very little on Spotify that will compel me to dive into the catalogue of a new-to-me artist, then seek them out when they go on tour.

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      Its not inherently better than sending someone a playlist by any other means but on the other hand I just think its neat to have a physical thing that you have to intentionally plug into something and listen to in a specific order and way. That and the way that tech/streaming is changing the ways we interact with music on a personal and cultural level is overwhelming to me, makes me nostalgic for the limitations of older mediums. When you had to be intentional about what and how you listened, it (at least to me) made a deeper connection between me and the music as a listener. Fortunately we can still be intentional in many ways, its just easier to not do that with streaming and algorithmically recommended stuff.

      I do wish that my friends would still send each other playlists in any format.

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    In audio circles stamped cd’s have been making a comeback. It’s much like the last decades vinyl revival.

    It’s not the older generations getting nostalgia, it’s the younger generations looking for ‘experience’ over content. Buying a physical thing, storing on the shelf, having a visible collection of disks to show off.

    Additionally it is a revenue stream for artists, where despite the costs of mastering and pressing a cd, they can get more money from a cd release than from streaming. So artists have been incentivized do make releases a big deal since they money goes straight to them. It’s a bit like a ‘buy me a coffee’ but with a physical item.

    You can buy brand new cd players, not just blueray players or vintage units that need service.

    It’s a thing.

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      In terms of nostalgia-buying, we millenials are now the older generation. I doubt it’s all the 15-20yo who are buying CDs.

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        I went looking for data and it seems cd sales are on the decline again. So my info is outdated. It looks like it was trending younger with Taylor swift and k-pop titles as the top sellers. It appears to be less of a revival and more of a fad.

        It looks like vinyl is still growing in 2026 even while cd decrease again.

        It’s a bummer since artist can get a bigger cut of physical media sales and cd are easier to make than a records.

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      imho in a weird way cassettes were better/more fun. Like wanting to record a song you like so you’d sit in front of the tape deck for hours on end listening to the radio waiting for that ONE song to come on so you could record it. It would take you hours, maybe even days, to make that mixtape of songs you didn’t own.

      Also when I was a kid I had one of those fisher price tape decks that had the microphone attached to it. I wanted to make a mix tape of all my favourite songs from my NES games or games that I would rent (like the Battletoads theme song, or the music from the Batman videogame) so I would pop the game in then hold the microphone up to the TV speaker and record the songs.

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      Cassettes are making a comeback much like vinyl but to a lesser extent. I’ve got 600 or so cassettes and probably 3/4 of them were made in the past 8 years.

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        Vinyl made sense because of its high fidelity. Cassettes do not make sense unless you enjoy dogshit audio quality

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          Incorrect. I have three NAD 6300s and a Nakamichi Dragon, and with metal tapes it’s transparent to digital. Shit even good type II nearly transparent. Tapes do not sound “dogshit”. Unlike vinyl, you can easily experiment with the many varieties of tape out there and master your own cassette recordings. It’s like rolling tubes in an analog amplifier. Yes, it’s not perfectly transparent to digital on a cheap type I tape, but the warmth of a high end type I rounds off some of the harshness of modern tracks. YMMV, it’s not for everyone, but I think it’s pretty fucking cool.

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            I mean reel tape kills vinyl and cassette. It surpasses or equals digital in high $$ situations.

            *its mostly about the mastering

            Yes, its clunky huge and expensive and has a limited catalog. But once you’ve heard one you’ll want more.

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                I love showing it to people who havent heard great audio.

                But yeah, its so expensive. The best part tho is unlike records, tapes are very robust if you keep them in normal temperatures and away from magnets. No surface noise, and most tapes the hiss is hardly noticeable especially on anything 15 IPS.

                The good part about the limited catalog is you’re going to always get super high quality from it because its so limited and expensive to do

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    Sure you can burn a CD, but I think I have nothing to play them anymore. My car (2020) does not have a CD player anymore. Nor my PC nor my laptop have one. I may have in my drawer an old BD reader DVD burner/reader with a SATA plug or something, I remember I plugged it on my laptop with a USB adapter yearsssss ago to rip my LOTR BD. It has been used 1 time in like 10 years.

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    What a dumbass article. It’s way too easy right now to burn a CD, we need another 25 years before were nostalgic about this one.

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      I think the majority of people at this point don’t have a computer with a CD / DVD burner anymore. And at least over here the supermarket also does not sell blank CDs / DVDs anymore.

      Most people would have to go out of their way to acquire the means to burn their own CDs

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      I disagree. Find a prebuilt PC that ships with a drive. Extremely rare unless you custom order it.

      On my desk sits a usb CD/DVD writer. Majority of my non tech friends might have an old bluray or DVD player laying aroung or a PS3/4.

      With your statement, you can say floppies are too easy to burn since you can buy a usb writer and a stack on amazon.

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        It’s true. Using floppies is too easy for decent nostalgia usage. To prove the point: how many people do you know who use floppies for nostalgia reasons?

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    I’m not sure if they’ve degraded, but I’ve got one of those CD-R spindles with a few disks left on it somewhere

    I could burn a mix CD this afternoon if I felt like it?

    Thing is if I gave half of the people I know a mix CD I’m pretty sure they wouldn’t actually have a means of listening to it

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      Just brought out my old dvds and put them on hard drive. They were burned 18 years ago and used organic dyes. I recovered avout 50% of them. Old me should have spent more on nonorganic discs… but old me couldn’t afford them back then, so he gets a pass I guess. Plus new me can easily dl most of those discs in an hour or two now.