• Jiral@lemmy.world
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    3 hours ago

    Is this finally the crack, or will they manage to paper over it and keep the bubble growing even further?

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      I would be dramatically less upset if I was surprised. Its painful to of shouted this from the rooftops for what feels like years now, only to be dismissed so easily. What males it even more painful is its the same idiots that where so desperate for nfts to work because their lives are so pathetic the only way they can see it improving is yoloing it on some tiktok fad they just learned about a week ago.

      The same people that are desperately defending ai on every turn desperately need it to work because they have taken full bait on the scam. They probably bought some 10k course from the PDB podcast or something like that on “how to get rich quick with ai for dummies” and then wasted 7.5k in tokens to make a web wrapper that sends all user input to Claude and does literally nothing. All their retirements are getting fucked by ai and they probably dumped all their personal savings into ai stocks. Literally the whole american economy is held up by a scam and instead of looking at death in the eye people rather claim ignorance and get mad and upset when you point out the truth.

      I rapidly flip between “everyone is just misguided and have been intentionally deprived of good information”, and “oh god the stupid people are running the planet, they are lesser beings who only prevent progress.” And that usually just depends on my mood.

      I just don’t understand how practically every business in recent times has operated on this model, and its not just obvious to everyone that this is the new scam to siphon money out of you instead of a real grass roots business that has actual real proven thing.

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    8 hours ago

    Kick out fascists

    State seizure of big tech

    Require reeducation for conservatives

    End citizens united

    Expand Supreme Court, house, and senate

    End first past the post and require proportional representation

    Eliminate presidential pardons

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          To expand on that chuds will really take to this if you just throw words in like “america first” or “for the people”

          2026 has kinda fucked up their brains and they sometimes confuse nationalism with socialism. They still love nationalism so you just work off of that. Once they learn its socalism after they already agreed to it’s already in their head as a good idea and have a harder time walking away from it. If there’s one thing they are bad at its self reflection and admitting they are wrong, so just get that brain worm in there.

          If you say you’re making a workers party already you lost majority of the country. If instead you just say we are fixing the country and kicking out Israel and giving the money back to Americans for an american first country, then you got a lot of confused conservatives on your side who are bitter. I’ve unironically heard conservatives say they’ll vote for aoc to “punish” their own party. So things are weird right now and potentially in a advantageous way.

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          I mean, like you’re literally arguing for like the lib cultural revolution, and restructuring of the government, which definitely requires some sort of takeover, why shouldn’t it be working class? You’re only like 12 steps away from being a Maoist.

  • NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world
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    17 hours ago

    I’m doing my part by continuing to ask chatgpt questions constantly without paying them money. I have started using Claude at work as well. If I do it enough, they’ll eventually all realize it’s expensive af, and give up on it. That’s the hope anyway.

    Edit: Also, fucking finally. Been waiting for this to happen for what seems like ages.

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      One of my favorite passtimes is going on a chatbot and asking it really out of left field questions. “Last night while I was sleeping I was woken up to my neighbor making fried eggs in my kitchen. The eggs were pretty good, but I’m concerned how he got inside. Do you know what seasonings he might have used on the egg? It was green.”

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      9 hours ago

      log out before doing anything. chatgpt now serves ads if youre logged in, thus making them money.

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        Log out of what? I don’t have an account. My work thing is officially set up. I didn’t do anything but request access to it at work. Now I’m juat trying to use up my works money so they realize it’s stupid to use AI for everything. They put a cap in how many credits I can use, so it’s not endless. I kinda just wish they would stop trying to shove it down our throats.

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          The AI companies don’t actually care about your company wasting money. They are making money off of your activities. Your company is losing money. That might result in you or your co-workers getting laid off. Which given you’re wasting company resources, you should be. But I’m more concerned about your co-workers getting laid off because of what you’re doing.

          You’re literally transferring your company’s money to AI companies because… why again? Some internet brainrot accelerationist mentality it seems.

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            6 hours ago

            So that the company finds it to be a waste of money and stops giving the AI companies money. Also, even the paid tier is losing money for AI companies IIRC.

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              Yeah so it’s a reverse boycott. After we buy a lot from this company everyone will understand why this company isn’t a viable business!

              Meanwhile in the real world, investors see an uptick in usage. Sure it’s not making money yet, but they project more growth because it looks it may be a viable business.

              The companies paying for subscriptions see that the employees are using the service a lot and keep paying for those subscriptions. It’s silly to assume that a company paying for a subscription for AI isn’t going to know the tokens were wasted. If they knew that, they’d fire the employee doing this because it’s maliciously wasting company resources. If no one is fired for wasting tokens, we can logically assume the company paying for the subscriptions think the tokens are being used for valid work purposes and continue paying for the subscriptions.

              What would actually prove to a company that an AI subscription is worthless is using zero tokens. Why would they pay for a service their employees don’t use?

              Methinks this is a person that is actually using AI and feeling guilty over it. So its… “yeah I’m just using to to waste tokens to fight the power!” That or a brainrotted accelerationist.

              Just another bullshit cog in the bullshit economy.

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    20 hours ago

    Everyone is hoping that we start arresting these politicians and tech bros when the bubble bursts but why wait?

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      18 hours ago

      That won’t happen. People like Elon only exist because of these bubbles. The bubble means nothing to the individuals, they just jump ship and start something new.

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    24 hours ago

    Let it come! If can’t see the sings, then you shouldn’t do stupid things. But guess what, USA corporate greediness is bellow stupidity.
    God bless Trump and it’s Tech companies!

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    1 day ago

    the herd animals who did this are incapable of learning. unless they are taken out of the system, this will recurring. like it has every few years since the turn of the century.

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      8 hours ago

      Yes be cause the other herd that wants to retry communism after it’s failed miserably multiple times is a much better option.

      Crazy idea, but maybe we just tax the wealthy? There’s always going to be idiots in charge of stuff no matter what the system is, but maybe we could just limit the power (and therefore mitigate the damage that can be done) of those with power.

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        Taxing the rich is “communism”, dontchaknow?

        Anti-trust laws? Communism!

        Wanting to see LGBT+ live equally and with dignity in their own country?.. pinko af communism!

        Healthcare for all? You better believe it’s communism!

        USA needs to understand the overlords made it a dirty word on purpose. Just like they did with islamic words like “sharia” or “jihad”. Or words from Black culture or ideas that are empowering them such as “woke” or “b.l.m.” or “critical race theory”.

        Even China isn’t really a communist country anymore. It’s authoritarian and hyper capitalist af with “Chinese characteristics”.

        We should take all the good parts of commie ideology without wanting centrally planned 1 party horror show with gulags and re-education camps. Such as nationalized critical infrastructure instead of private power and oil companies making billions while people suffer. Tax the wealthy. Fund public education adequately etc etc.

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          Most of the stuff you list are actually liberal policies. You know liberals those evil enemies of the tankies?

          Communism is about state control of the economy. Shit that failed every time it was tried.

          The whole point of the communist propaganda is to make you hate liberals that want the same things you do, and to make you spout communist slogans that make you sound like a crazy person. If you just said “I want to tax the rich, bust up big corporations, and implement universal healthcare” most people will agree with that. But If you rant on like “seize the means of production late stage capitalism eat the rich stalin did notihng wrong, china is a utopia blah blah blah” everyone rightly considers you a crazy person and nothing happens.

          Maybe just stick to talking about the policies you want and stop with the commie talk and maybe things might happen. But then you would be saying the same thing as liberals oh noes! That’s bad according to the influencers that are heavily promoted by corporate social media. Always gotta do what corporate social media influencers tell you! Liberal are baaaaaaaad. They just talk about raising taxes on the rich and improving healthcare, they might not have even read Marx! BAD LIBERALS!

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            Neoliberalism is pretty fkn bad too though, won’t you agree?

            Those lies they keep telling about free market yet always supporting corporate welfare and socialism-for-wealthy?

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      almost accurate. financial regulations put in place after the Great Depression kept relative stability for 50 years. as deregulation accelerted at the end if the 80s, swings resumed and we are niw in the boom/bust cycles that were so painful from 1870 to 1933.

      Also not coincidentally the time of the robber barons

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        they and their kin must be made a terrible example of. if the only basis for society is punishment, we must punish them more, and have more society. breed them to punish, I guess, if we can’t do a utopia.

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    1 day ago

    Only if you panic-sold.

    In investing gains and losses are only realized when you sell a security, and over time, just buying and holding has been all the strategy most people have needed thanks to the market’s consistent growth.

    The downside is that anyone invested in a 401k probably has shares in a mutual fund that will be negatively impacted when the AI Bubble pops. It will be interesting to see what happens in the short-term, though, especially if (and almost certainly when) Donald loses total congressional control.

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      I want a form of government where to become president you have to travel to 7 ancient temples and at each one pass the trial and acquire the artifact

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        22 hours ago

        Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.

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          18 hours ago

          I’m shocked nobody’s commented on the reference yet.

          “Go away you silly k-nig-gtt. Fetchez la Vache!”

          “run away! run away!”

          For those too young to remember or haven’t been exposed to it, this is from Monty Python and the search for the Holy Grail.

          This is a must watch for any political cynic.

          Edit:. I’m sorry I didn’t see the duck comment that came an hour before me.

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      1 day ago

      I just hope it can wait until my solar panels get installed. Friggen permitting is taking forever.