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Reddit ruined reddit for everyone. AI has nothing to do with it. Well except Reddit making a deal with google to sell everything on their for training AI. But again that is Reddit ruining Reddit.
Agreed. And this has taught us some things about communication. About how it works when it’s hooked up with capitalism, government and/or the general population.
I personally think it works better without that stuff.
It’s ruining everthing it touches. Reddit is far from the only victim of that garbage.
I used to have a reddit account and truly enjoyed it - but I quit when it became obvious that most of the site is simply run by bots that aim to stir the pot and divide people. I still read various reddit posts - but there is no longer any real knowledge to be gained. Mostly, I now just experience frustration, mistrust, and disappointment.
all they had to do was install comment and post captchas for each and every interaction, but that might hurt interaction metrics and thus the stock price so AI slop and eventual implosion it is instead.
Did spez change his name to AI?
can’t they block accounts? fedi spoils us
They’ll juat make new ones
Let’s be real…Reddit itself is moderated by AI.
People who moderate subs should be called “hall monitors” or something. It’s rare to find moderators who are actually moderating with impartiality, rather that being petty and taking sides. They also have tools to exploit the Reddit auto-mod system.
It was enshitified ages ago.
There’s no point in taking moderation seriously. It’s a volunteer position and the tools to handle slop aren’t there.
I hear they’re bringing back digg.
I also hear it’s a former Reddit C-suite that’s bringing it back, so it’ll probably be more of the same.
Reddit is already ruined and has been for a while. And it’s been ruined by the greedy Reddit CEO.
Yep. It was headed downhill with the bots, reposts, karma farmers, hive-mind, troll farms, and of course the reddit c-suite “purging” the site of things like WPD, morbid reality, spacedicks (yeah, not subs for everyone, but noetheless…not hurting anyone), getting rid of Victoria, getting rid of mods and leaving petty power mongers and sycophants in place, and allowing shit like The_Donald and similar subs to run unchecked. The forced commercialization, crushing of protest and reddit app was the final straw.
Yeah AI had nothing to do with it. Ruined waaay before AI took hold. That’s why I left.
The UI was becoming unusable, the policies were unreasonable, the greed got to them, etc, etc.
Also the turtle fucker that is a mod everywhere. I’m so curious how they make money being a shitty person.
No, Reddit ruined Reddit for everyone. The AI slops are simply what replace the people who left.
This is key.
If there weren’t bots…Reddit would make its own bots. Reddit dances a fine line of allowing the population to be a certain proportion of bots because they increase real engagement by picking fights with its real users, as well as creating never-ending “content” for people to read and vote on. They only ban bots when real users notice they are bots - which is less and less frequently - even though Reddit has the tools and information to ban them long before that point.
Reddit could easy eliminate almost all of them, but that would be expensive and they’d lose real users as a result.
Exactly. This is like blaming rats and cockroaches for dirty town.
No, they won’t be there (as much) in a cleaner town.
Yeah, also the people. The comment sections are cancer. Lame jokes from dickheads that don’t add anything.
The day they got rid of reddit gold and started cash grabbing hard was the day the writing was on the wall.
It was when they fired Victoria for me
They got rid of gold?? When?? I left reddot and came to Lemmy in the third-party apps exodus and haven’t even looked back
Oh, I’ve looked back. It’s hard not to rubberneck at such a horrendous train wreck. Especially when I was just a passenger on that very train.
I left reddit during the great API massacre as well, then I went back to only be taken out by the great Trump massacre of '24 where they banned a huge chuck of the community that had any anti-trump sentiments in their profile history…because Trump threatened them.
Now I have been banned 6 more times, just by AI detecting language it doesn’t like and its catalogue of dislike only continues to grow.
They pretend that humans are reviewing ban appeals, it is clear that they are not. The AI is banning more people than they could possibly keep up with. Now, more often than not, there is no reply to ban appeals whatsoever.
Spez is a spineless coward who threw the reddit community overboard a long time ago and continues to do so whenever it suits him. Reddit exists only to shit money for him now.
It has been left twisted and corrupted in favor of the conquest for money and controlling public opinion
I’ll be back to fight the good fight just as soon as I can create a new account and switch VPNs
Wasn’t spez the pedo sub moderator?
Yeah, after reading the article, it was like, oh, so the same fake stories but actually grammar corrected?
Also, most people who sre like “i have this tells tl detect AI” would not know at all whether something is AI or not lol
Yeah, I’ve noticed an uptic of AI generated content being posted outside the AI circle jerk subreddits. Places like the AoE4 and Bionicle subreddits have had quite a number of AI posts already.
Theyve become too courageous, with others going out of the way to defend the use of generative AI with weak arguments like “but cars also steal jobs”.
The one subreddit that I’ve seen have a healthy response against AI generated content is the Bionicle subreddit. Doesn’t really surprise me as the Bionicle community is full of creatives.
“stealing jobs” is a weak argument itself, that can always happen with new technology.
The real argument is that people create something uncreative and unthoughtful and therefore slop. AI doesnt make uncreative people creative.
Yeah, that happened way before the current AI slop bubble.
The AI slop is just extra piss in a lake full of piss.
Yes it did. Making up variation of the same story in order to farm upvotes used to be done by humans.
But the strategy of throwing shit at the wall and see what sticks has now been industrialized with AI, because the machine can produce tons of cheaper, faster, smellier shit.
Reddit and generally socials are basically the perfect application for AI. Unreliable results are not a bug but a feature. You have thousands of humans helpfully training it for free by up or downvoting the result. And the AI companies get a machine trained to persuade large groups of people of any made-up story.
Don’t need ai for that. Before AI, bots would simply copy top post from a year ago to farm up votes, and then sell the account to marketers.
Lemmy way better than Reddit
That’s mostly a result of obscurity.
Doesn’t make it any less better. It sucks that the second something becomes mainstream, it gets sloppified imediatelly. Look at Reddit, Discord…
True and true.
I hate that now there’s even automated profiles managed by AIs which basically ragebait constantly on normal subreddits. And im not even talking about large ones. Heck this must be the worst psyop ever made in recent history
Reddit was the playground for ai slop long before commercial LLMs existed. Subredditsimulator was like 2014 or 2015 and people were fucking with markov chains and other shit that dated back to like the 90s or even 70s but that also had some people experimenting with rudimentary neural networks, though obviously none with the computing power of shit like chatgpt or gemini. And obviously that whole experiment was inspired in part by the fact that botted comments were becoming increasingly common and obvious on reddit in the years leading to it, so why not make a subreddit where everyone participating is a bot?
There’s no proof but openai researchers may have been fucking around on that sub. There was a fairly drastic increase in quality of posts in that sub around the time openai would’ve been making gpt1 (2018ish) and then they began aggressively scraping the entirety of reddit, quora, etc for content. Could just be a coincidence though and they’ll never confirm it even if it’s true bc redditors will flip shit
Honestly subreddit simulator was amazing. At that time I was super into text generation, I programmed a few basic Markov chains as well. It is a shame that modern generative AI sucked the joy out of what I considered a fun toy at the time.
Damn I had forgot about subredditsimulator. It felt like AI was stupid and funny, and look where we are now
Why would they care? People still on reddit don’t seem likely to leave
AI slop is ruining everything *
