I genuinely don’t even know who that demonstration was for other than 12-year-olds. None of these cars have any practical or road applications. Where are you going to need to flip your cap off of a ramp or over some cars? It’s so fucking stupid.
It looked more like a choreographed car dance routine than anything else; given how fast and precise those thrusters need to be, how does a human even control it?
EV sales are flat or shrinking in the US (but growing extremely quickly outside the US, partially thanks to the Hormuz situation). Tesla’s sales are flat. He’s doing anything possible to show that Tesla has a future.
So, he basically told his talented engineers to take the stabilizing parts of a SpaceX rocket, put them in the body of a car, and pretended that what was demoed is actually vaguely related to something people might be able to buy at some point.
There isn’t a chance that a vehicle with those kinds of thrusters would ever be road legal. You’re basically driving a pretty large bomb around. You crash that vehicle and you don’t just kill yourself, you kill everybody within a pretty large blast radius.
It’s a shame because my wife and I are saving up for an EV but I’m worried by the time we’re ready the models won’t be there. They’re already cutting the Hyundai Ioniq 6. Our top contender.
Y’know if they hadn’t killed off all of their fuel efficient sedan models they’d have a fuel efficient small car to offer the people shocked by gas prices…
People really weren’t buying those though. It’s a hot take, but I think they made the right choice on that one. They followed it up with the wrong choice to not develop hybrid wagons/cross overs. I don’t think anyone saw the return of the minivan.
People stopped buying sedans because the car industry made a concerted effort to demarket them. They’ve been pushing SUVs for nearly 30 years, trying really hard to get people to stop buying sedans and were too successful. Now there’s a fuel crisis and no sedans in production (from American brands at least) so the manufacturers are getting caught with their pants down again
I do wonder if the fleet market is sufficient to keep both sedans and vans in production, since each makes a very competent fleet vehicle platform for different usecases, see the venerable Crown Victoria for example
I’m not sure. I think they were reacting to buyers, not the other way around. I remember the late 90s and early 2000s. SUVs and crossovers were relatively new and exploding in popularity. Partly as a back lash against the “soccer mom” minivan stereotype. I never liked them, but I also never liked sedans. I’m definitely a wagon guy. It’s sad that they all became crossovers.
Don’t be a prick dude. The person mentioned having a wife, that might include kids, and at least they’re looking into getting an EV instead of a 4 door short bed V8 pickup truck that will never see a day of work. Pick better targets
Targets? I lightheartedly suggest someone get an e-bike, and suddenly you think they’re a “target”?
The fact that someone has a wife means that they can’t buy an e-bike on the off chance that they might have kids?
Fuck, man. What the hell is wrong with you? What the hell is wrong with your country. People are so car-brained that merely light-heartedly suggesting an e-bike is considered an attack? You have some serious fucking issues.
Even if they don’t replace a car, they’re great vehicles. They’re fun to ride, you rarely have to worry about traffic jams, they’re cheap to operate, and you can do a lot of your own maintenance.
Does yours have seats on the back? A trailer? I’ve seen a variety of solutions for transporting kids. The trailer is the solution I see most often, and it looks like the most luxurious option for the kids. They often look like they’re some aristocrat being carried on a palanquin, sprawled out and enjoying the ride.
I mean, for me they effectively replace the car. We own one, but since we have the e-bike, I don’t drive at all. I use the trailer for shopping if needed.
And yes, we used the trailer + the small seat behind my seat. Basically all three kids could ride with me, but the battery depletes fast and I am not sure about the general strain put on the bike’s structure with so much weight. The bike is not technically ours but leased from the company my wife works at. In Belgium, at some point the taxes get so high that people choose untaxed benefits at work (like a bike leasing or vouchers, even a company car) instead of salary hikes.
We now own a second e-bike with two separate seats so we can have family trips. We’ll see how it works.
To clarify: I do NOT believe that you can always replace a car with an e-bike. But in the rather wealthy area where we live, the bike infrastructure is great and everything is very walkable, so it is possible to greatly reduce your reliance on cars. The Netherlands are far superior to Belgium in this respect.
It does include kids. And the in-laws are a highway away.
I don’t drive daily to work and use public transit and walk when I can, but we do every now and then need to drive somewhere. The E-Bike doesn’t work there.
The Model X had it under a speaker cover. The model 3 didn’t have it listed in the user manual. Fans discovered under a rubber door pocket cover, you could remove a flushed mounted plastic tab and fish out a pull wire to open the door.
It wasn’t until 2024 that Model 3’s got a door release.
My 2018 has them on the front and rear. I love that car. I wish Elon want a Nazi because I wouldn’t have the shit EV I bought when my wife took over the Tesla.
It is actually a pretty cool stunt. Completely pointless from a commercial point of view, of course. But Tesla has been disconnected from market realities for a long time, so that’s just in character.
There might be some niche situation where it’s helpful but that’s not even relevant because there’s no way it would be legal on public roads in most places. I also strongly doubt that it would be able to do it safely and compensate for different weight distribution of the vehicle with different passengers and such.
I genuinely can’t wait for a fat cat to buy one of these, try and do the flip with him in the driver’s seat, it partially roll, end up careening sideways into the side of a building, and finishing with a lithium grilled pancaked executive 😙 👌
I doubt they’d be able to even sit still safely, that amount of compressed air sitting in the undercarriage is much more dangerous than even the 10 gallons of gas sitting in a car.
Then there’s the “range issue” of being able to do that maybe a few times, at best, for a few seconds. Cool demo, but you’d think just a revamped Roadster would be enough. Do it with a Cybertruck without showering everyone with shrapnel and I might be impressed.
Elmo faked a tech demo showing a new car that can drive upside down thanks to vacuum suction and can fly thanks to compressed air rockets.
Fine print: the car that goes on sale is not able to do that, only a very limited run that is sold to select customers at an unknown price (read: they don’t sell it)
It’s like if a robot company does a tech demo where a dancing robot is actually a human wearing a costume, or a bartending robot is actually remotely controlled by a human with a VR headset
Wow it watches like The Onion News Network, especially towards the end.
Looks like they failed to make Roadster have any impressive parameters so they mounted an air jet to cheat, and then get carried away when preparing a demo.
The frothing, uncritical comments from Musk stans on that video are insane. I hope they’re mostly bots and don’t represent real humans - nobody is acknowledging how impractical, unsafe, or illegal any of these moves are, nor how it’s a just a stunt that will never reach real-world production or on-road use.
God damn it, I want that to be as cool as it should be! This timeline is bullshit and I’m calling shenanigans! THATS A FLYING FLIPPING FUCKING CAR AND ITS NOT COOL BECAUSE ELON!!!
They did a demo of the new roadster model; they’ve strapped a suction fan and HPA thrusters to it so it can do 0 to 60mph in under a second, drive up walls, perform a running jump over a semi-truck without a ramp, spin and do a standing flip.
They demoed a car that was loaded with a shit load of compressed gas, then they had it do a kick flip over a line of cars and a semi truck. They also drove it up a massive inverted ramp and then had it flip over and land smoothly.
Looked cool as hell, but has absolutely no practical purpose other than allowing Nazi Musk to get headlines saying they have a flying car.
Maybe this has been explained, but how was the car able to drive upside-down before the thrusters had been activated? It’s not like it was going fast enough for its momentum to hold it there.
I genuinely don’t even know who that demonstration was for other than 12-year-olds. None of these cars have any practical or road applications. Where are you going to need to flip your cap off of a ramp or over some cars? It’s so fucking stupid.
I have a coworker who was yelling in the office about how “fucking cool” it was… I’m not putting him above a 12-year old though.
It looked more like a choreographed car dance routine than anything else; given how fast and precise those thrusters need to be, how does a human even control it?
Supercars are some of the most impractal things on the planet, yet people buy them all the time.
A supercar that can briefly fly? If that actually makes it to production, people will absolutely buy one.
I think the vacuum downforce could definitely be useful for track/stunt driving
As long as it’s dry. And there’s no pebbles or loose debris or sand on the track…
It’s neat but it’s also already been done. The McMurtry Speirling had the tech five years ago.
Very stupid investors?
EV sales are flat or shrinking in the US (but growing extremely quickly outside the US, partially thanks to the Hormuz situation). Tesla’s sales are flat. He’s doing anything possible to show that Tesla has a future.
So, he basically told his talented engineers to take the stabilizing parts of a SpaceX rocket, put them in the body of a car, and pretended that what was demoed is actually vaguely related to something people might be able to buy at some point.
There isn’t a chance that a vehicle with those kinds of thrusters would ever be road legal. You’re basically driving a pretty large bomb around. You crash that vehicle and you don’t just kill yourself, you kill everybody within a pretty large blast radius.
It’s a shame because my wife and I are saving up for an EV but I’m worried by the time we’re ready the models won’t be there. They’re already cutting the Hyundai Ioniq 6. Our top contender.
Companies are scrambling to start making more hybrids and EVs now with gas prices so high and EVs in such high demand.
Y’know if they hadn’t killed off all of their fuel efficient sedan models they’d have a fuel efficient small car to offer the people shocked by gas prices…
People really weren’t buying those though. It’s a hot take, but I think they made the right choice on that one. They followed it up with the wrong choice to not develop hybrid wagons/cross overs. I don’t think anyone saw the return of the minivan.
People stopped buying sedans because the car industry made a concerted effort to demarket them. They’ve been pushing SUVs for nearly 30 years, trying really hard to get people to stop buying sedans and were too successful. Now there’s a fuel crisis and no sedans in production (from American brands at least) so the manufacturers are getting caught with their pants down again
I do wonder if the fleet market is sufficient to keep both sedans and vans in production, since each makes a very competent fleet vehicle platform for different usecases, see the venerable Crown Victoria for example
I’m not sure. I think they were reacting to buyers, not the other way around. I remember the late 90s and early 2000s. SUVs and crossovers were relatively new and exploding in popularity. Partly as a back lash against the “soccer mom” minivan stereotype. I never liked them, but I also never liked sedans. I’m definitely a wagon guy. It’s sad that they all became crossovers.
Buy used. They will still be serviced at repair shops and you can get a 2year old EV for half the price of new.
You could get a more stylish EV.
Don’t be a prick dude. The person mentioned having a wife, that might include kids, and at least they’re looking into getting an EV instead of a 4 door short bed V8 pickup truck that will never see a day of work. Pick better targets
Are you fucking kidding?
Targets? I lightheartedly suggest someone get an e-bike, and suddenly you think they’re a “target”?
The fact that someone has a wife means that they can’t buy an e-bike on the off chance that they might have kids?
Fuck, man. What the hell is wrong with you? What the hell is wrong with your country. People are so car-brained that merely light-heartedly suggesting an e-bike is considered an attack? You have some serious fucking issues.
I have an e-bike adapted for carrying 2 kids that I use daily for kindergarten commute. Can’t recommend it enough. I live in Belgium though.
Even if they don’t replace a car, they’re great vehicles. They’re fun to ride, you rarely have to worry about traffic jams, they’re cheap to operate, and you can do a lot of your own maintenance.
Does yours have seats on the back? A trailer? I’ve seen a variety of solutions for transporting kids. The trailer is the solution I see most often, and it looks like the most luxurious option for the kids. They often look like they’re some aristocrat being carried on a palanquin, sprawled out and enjoying the ride.
I mean, for me they effectively replace the car. We own one, but since we have the e-bike, I don’t drive at all. I use the trailer for shopping if needed. And yes, we used the trailer + the small seat behind my seat. Basically all three kids could ride with me, but the battery depletes fast and I am not sure about the general strain put on the bike’s structure with so much weight. The bike is not technically ours but leased from the company my wife works at. In Belgium, at some point the taxes get so high that people choose untaxed benefits at work (like a bike leasing or vouchers, even a company car) instead of salary hikes. We now own a second e-bike with two separate seats so we can have family trips. We’ll see how it works. To clarify: I do NOT believe that you can always replace a car with an e-bike. But in the rather wealthy area where we live, the bike infrastructure is great and everything is very walkable, so it is possible to greatly reduce your reliance on cars. The Netherlands are far superior to Belgium in this respect.
Well it turns out they do, in fact, have kids. Also maybe drink some water and chill a little.
Who the fuck cares if they have kids. You’re allowed to own an ebike, even if you have kids.
You seem like the one with issues brother…
Because I think it’s ridiculous to be told you’re “targetting” someone by merely suggesting they might want to buy an ebike?
You’re certainly entitled to your opinions and interpretations.
It does include kids. And the in-laws are a highway away.
I don’t drive daily to work and use public transit and walk when I can, but we do every now and then need to drive somewhere. The E-Bike doesn’t work there.
Tesla sold a car for years with no way to open the back seat doors in the event of an emergency.
US regulators allow Tesla to do anything.
There is a way. Not practical, but if you pry off the speaker cover, there is a release cable.
I blame regulators.
The Model X had it under a speaker cover. The model 3 didn’t have it listed in the user manual. Fans discovered under a rubber door pocket cover, you could remove a flushed mounted plastic tab and fish out a pull wire to open the door.
It wasn’t until 2024 that Model 3’s got a door release.
Idea: in case of emergency the user can download a 400 mb app and after login + otp verification can see where is the emergency door opening tab
Strange. Maybe it’s a Europe thing, but my 2020(?) M3 has a little mechanical lever you can pull to open.
I think you are misremembering. I triple checked and there is nothing in the German Manual for rear door release in a 2020 Model 3.
Here is a German YouTuber showing how you can make your Tesla safer by adding a pull to the hidden door release.
https://youtube.com/shorts/QFLq7-wIGCo
In the front seats, right? Everyone (even I agree rightfully so) got mad about the rear passengers not having one.
My 2018 has them on the front and rear. I love that car. I wish Elon want a Nazi because I wouldn’t have the shit EV I bought when my wife took over the Tesla.
Here is a German YouTuber showing how you should add emergency pulls to the model 3 because it doesn’t have them.
https://youtube.com/shorts/QFLq7-wIGCo?is=xzWnVqoox6WpqGrE
A car that maybe you (or your passengers) can’t get out of and might die is different from a car that’s basically a bomb on wheels.
It is actually a pretty cool stunt. Completely pointless from a commercial point of view, of course. But Tesla has been disconnected from market realities for a long time, so that’s just in character.
Right, if they could build a race track and have a bunch of these in a race, that might actually be kinda cool. I see no other reason for this.
Trackmania IRL?
There might be some niche situation where it’s helpful but that’s not even relevant because there’s no way it would be legal on public roads in most places. I also strongly doubt that it would be able to do it safely and compensate for different weight distribution of the vehicle with different passengers and such.
I genuinely can’t wait for a fat cat to buy one of these, try and do the flip with him in the driver’s seat, it partially roll, end up careening sideways into the side of a building, and finishing with a lithium grilled pancaked executive 😙 👌
I doubt they’d be able to even sit still safely, that amount of compressed air sitting in the undercarriage is much more dangerous than even the 10 gallons of gas sitting in a car.
That’s what I thought, the pressure vessels to get lift for a heavy electric car for just one second is a bomb extremely sensitive to crashes.
That could not be legal on the roads.
Then there’s the “range issue” of being able to do that maybe a few times, at best, for a few seconds. Cool demo, but you’d think just a revamped Roadster would be enough. Do it with a Cybertruck without showering everyone with shrapnel and I might be impressed.
Okay, I know I could look this up indvidually, but for those of us who missed it, what happened today?
Elmo faked a tech demo showing a new car that can drive upside down thanks to vacuum suction and can fly thanks to compressed air rockets.
Fine print: the car that goes on sale is not able to do that, only a very limited run that is sold to select customers at an unknown price (read: they don’t sell it)
It’s like if a robot company does a tech demo where a dancing robot is actually a human wearing a costume, or a bartending robot is actually remotely controlled by a human with a VR headset
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BYWy6SyJRZo
Wow it watches like The Onion News Network, especially towards the end.
Looks like they failed to make Roadster have any impressive parameters so they mounted an air jet to cheat, and then get carried away when preparing a demo.
The frothing, uncritical comments from Musk stans on that video are insane. I hope they’re mostly bots and don’t represent real humans - nobody is acknowledging how impractical, unsafe, or illegal any of these moves are, nor how it’s a just a stunt that will never reach real-world production or on-road use.
Musk stans all live in a datacenter in Tennessee.
God damn it, I want that to be as cool as it should be! This timeline is bullshit and I’m calling shenanigans! THATS A FLYING FLIPPING FUCKING CAR AND ITS NOT COOL BECAUSE ELON!!!
They did a demo of the new roadster model; they’ve strapped a suction fan and HPA thrusters to it so it can do 0 to 60mph in under a second, drive up walls, perform a running jump over a semi-truck without a ramp, spin and do a standing flip.
They demoed a car that was loaded with a shit load of compressed gas, then they had it do a kick flip over a line of cars and a semi truck. They also drove it up a massive inverted ramp and then had it flip over and land smoothly.
Looked cool as hell, but has absolutely no practical purpose other than allowing Nazi Musk to get headlines saying they have a flying car.
Maybe this has been explained, but how was the car able to drive upside-down before the thrusters had been activated? It’s not like it was going fast enough for its momentum to hold it there.
I saw something about suction using a vacuum on the bottom. Not sure how the hell that could hold up a heavy car.
Figures that elon fanbois would be all about suction.
Someone did the math and it is possible if they hollowed out the car.
Supercars in general have no practical purpose, and people buy them. Being cool is the entire sales pitch.
Yeah if you live in literally any country except Germany, lol. Autobahn goes brrrr.
Eh, even then I think your typical German sedan would be better on the autobahn than a supercar.
it’s not a flying car. it’s a car that can fall with style.
Well he sure as hell does not have a friend in me…
Tesla released a ‘flying car’ video, I think.