Good grandpa
Even though the shirt doesn’t match, I first had to think of Mario
These are farmers that i miss. The ones who dgf about the federal government and just want to be off the grid doing farm stuff.
It frustrates me that the independent, “keep to myself and don’t trust the government” personalities love gas/oil and not solar panels/batteries. Can’t remember a time we invented a war in the Middle East to steal their sunlight.
Soon.
I’ve been in the Middle East recently and let me tell you - they are FAR ahead of the West in terms of solar and geothermal. They know what’s up (the end of oil and climate catastrophe) and they are moving to solar and geothermal FAST. Don’t get me wrong they are still car dependent, and they will still milk oil for everything it’s worth, but solar and geothermal (for cooling in their case) is everywhere on the Arabian peninsula. Just saying.
Makes sense. You don’t get high off your own supply. Norway is all about electric vehicles, too.
I hope to be an old crotchy man someday and when I am ill change that.
I’m working on it too. I’m part way there. (47 year old telecommuting engineer and off grid homesteader hoping to retire to do farm stuff full time as soon as I can)
It actually makes sense to not notice them because they are off the grid in the true sense, no such person would announce their current statr on social media.
Don’t they just want to keep it to themselves? That’s what it’d look like
Once our little fossil-fueled civilizational experiment comes to a halt, most of us will be, like it or not.
You apparently didn’t hear about Renewables.
Isn’t it some form of renewables? Growing food with the sun.
Though I prefer to just water edible wild stuff occasionally instead of putting to much energy in growing it intentionally.
Soil nutrients, unfortunately, are mostly petroleum derived these days. Another reason to not just burn it, but nobody listens to me.
Have you ever tried growing… anything? Do you have any idea what that’s like without chemical pesticides and fertilizers?
There’s a reason agriculture used to occupy most of people’s time.
That’s a complete mischaracterization. Intensive mono cropping is time and labor intensive because you have to factor in inevitable losses in crop yield (due to blight, pests, etc.) plus the labor costs of harvesting a single crop that all matures at once. The costs of soil nutrition are also exacerbated because monocropping extracts nutrients from the soil with very little return (there’s a lot of hubbub about rotational cropping with clover and things like that, but it’s not a long-term solution, especially when you’re bleeding money for having a field go fallow)
Building up soil diversity is 100% about working with nature to build crop and soil diversity, and letting natural processes accumulate to produce optimal growing conditions. The issue is it’s not very scaleable, and so grumpy Westerners and urbanites toss it aside because they don’t want to actually grow the food, they just want to feel good about buying it
Yeah. The problem with capitalism is that if you’re not willing to fuck things up for short-to-medium term benefit before moving onto the next thing, you’ll go out of business to someone who is.
Yes, but without fossil fuel inputs humanity couldn’t sustain 8 billion people, renewable energy or not.
My point is that humanity is heading into a foundational tree chipper. Don’t you think we’re already seeing signs of unraveling?
Of course humanity can survive on renewable energy, that’s how we built the Pyramids, but those civilizations didn’t have 8 billion people shopping on Aliexpress or spray cheese on nachos to watch the football game.
I also agree with you that it’s unraveling. But that’s why’d I’d rather try to adapt now and face the reality than pretend I can have Amazon Prime and not participate in killing life on Earth.
I think your argument is sound if the goal is to sustain current living standards in developed nations
But perhaps we should be evaluating whether, if those living standards require such an oppressive system, it may be better for us in these wealthy nations to learn how to do without
Not easy, not even likely, but necessary if we want to have a planet for future generations
I have gardened without gas, fertilizer or pesticides for years.
Fantastic. Now extrapolate that to supporting 8 billion people, with your kind of gardening and what it will mean for that civilization.
Do you support yourself 100% of the time with that gardening? Or is it a relaxing hobby?
I’m talking about how we got to 8 billion people. Here’s a hint, it’s not by gardening.
So you’re telling me you never drive your car somewhere to buy seeds or tools? And they got to the store without trucks?
The clothes you wear to garden? You made them yourself? You have sheep? A spinning jenny?
The people working at the store to unload the trucks? They also eat food that came into being without gas, fertilizer, or pesticides?
Look, you’ve been gardening with gas, fertilizer, and pesticides all along. You just didn’t see it.
That’s my point. You can hug yourself and pat yourself on the back as much as you want, but without fossil fuels, you wouldn’t have the lifestyle that lets you type away at a computer while your fridge is full of food from the supermarket…
We should have reserved fossil fuels for medicine, chemical, and other uses. Now we are screwed.
We have grown potatoes, and they did fine, until some stupid new moth made holes in like 2/3 of our potatoes.
We used fertilizer and pesticide pellets when planting. I don’t know much, I was not the one doing the planning.
without chemical pesticides and fertilizers
Yes, we have some plants in our garden. But my mom does the planting and weed control.
What I’m referencing is that I’m eating wild strawberries, which I just water. It’s only a few here and there, but the big intentionally grown strawberries were mostly eaten by snails, despite my mom trying to kill them with snail pellets.
I also harvest wild oregano and spearmint, that all grows well.
The rest, which was planted, requires a lot of watering. Though that’s a good opportunity for me to get outside. But on a big field that would take a lot longer and be more annoying. Unless it’s raining that’s certainly something you have to do every day.
I’m not sure if my mom used some fertilizer, she sometimes does. But our main fertilizer is compost, though that’s definitely a lot of work and won’t scale neither.
But back to renewables… that should still improve the situation, since it allows at least automated irrigation and such. For big fields plowing doesn’t work with electric tractors yet afaik
I guess most of historical civilizations heard of renewables. Why didn’t they have intercontinental flights and chemical fertilizers with a population of 8 billion?
Do you honestly think we’re going to wave a magic wand and pooff, same lifestyle but with sunshine?
What’s coming in the next 50 years will make the 21st century so far look like a picnic in the park.
Whine whine whine. This person will hold their tablet against their chest and bemoan the loss of porn-on-demand while we get to work building sustainable food capacity.
Well yes, but that means 8 billion people will be a bit of a snug fit on this planet, don’t you think?
And we had sustainable food capacity up to 1859.
There’s no more bat guano either.
Propping up an unsustainable system through resource extraction and technological innovation without contextual relativism doesn’t just magically make it sustainable.
It comes down to climate resilience, deglobalization of produce markets, and creating the political will to build localized, worker-owned food production and distribution systems. Yes that will mean paying out the ass for bananas, but it’s better than watching children choke on smoke while they ask you why it has to be like this.
that grin tells me this guy is a character, and I be he is loved by all who know him
I love him and I don’t even know him!
Would love to have a beer, or three, with this fine gentleman.
Get to know him well enough, I bet he breaks out some moonshine that’ll put hair on your toenails!
That good 95% in a old milk bottle with a post it note for a label.
The problem with a hat like this is that if I saw this person from a distance, I wouldn’t look closely enough to read it.
The people it would trigger would though.
Trigger in this context is starting to gradually mean something else.
America, fuck yeah ! 🎤🎶
Some of them. I had a red hat when trump first dropped, and I stopped wearing it after the second guy told me he almost kicked my ass for wearing it.
It’s a red front with a white mesh back and is from a local food company, and it’s like 20yr old, yet still it was close enough I had to retire it. I’d be worried to wear one even closer to the real one here tbh, likely someone doesn’t read it and just goes off at it by mistake.
Lol yeah both sides would be. I say this as a proud leftist haha.
Yeah. It is why I hate all kinds of bait like this.
Ha ha. You are on edge because people actively want to murder you for not being a human and you judged me when actually I am a great guy. Ha ha. That’ll teach you to judge a book by its cover!
Like… 80/20 this is very much a “I hate all the division and we should all get along” kind of asshole.
What an incredible amount of bullshit to make up about some guy.
I think its less for the type of person you’re describing and more for the otherside so that they may look foolish in assuming the person wearing the hat is on their side because they didnt read it. Its a little abstract
Even funnier. Now the genocidal bastards will feel real awkward when they don’t get the cheers they expected!
Still a privileged dipshit
I think it’s okay for someone to wear this hat to poke fun at assholes and don’t really read it as ragebaiting as you seem to. What context to this hat am I missing that says otherwise?
Because for privileged people it is just “oh ha ha, that person is an asshole”
For a lot of folk? It is a sign that someone actively wants you dead or enslaved and doesn’t care who knows it.
Or, in this case, it shows that they care so little about the actual victims that they think it is Ironic to wear a nazi uniform around so long as they flip the skulls upside down.
I’ve got one that says ANTIFA
Morons And Genuine Ass-holes. MAGA
I’m not sure MAGAs are intelligent enough to know what it is
Kinda want one
How to trigger PTSD in non-whites just so you can “troll”.
Also, don’t become a statistic of friendly fire in a “Bloody Kansas”.
Please don’t wear this.
If this triggers someone’s PTSD going outside will trigger them a bunch no matter what. Like respect is important but at some point you gotta factor in other interests like artistic/political expression. Plus if you constantly baby people with that kind of mental illness they won’t ever get better. And I say this as someone who has been diagnosed with PTSD.
The solution to this mess is not simple, but it will not be to hide things that may offend people, to stick heads into sand or control speech.
The very idea that someone needs to follow a “non-offensive” guide in political commentary is very much a part of how the us is in the mess it is.
The very idea that someone needs to follow a “non-offensive” guide in political commentary is very much a part of how the us is in the mess it is.
I stifled that thought earlier but yes
Should we all stop wearing any red baseball caps?
Genuine question, not really debating you
I reckon brown shirts became less popular in the late 40s. Maybe we wait until 2028 to stop wearing red caps.
PTSD in a lot of people, it’s definitely not down to race.
don’t kill people > BLM
edit: why all the hate? Isn’t this shitpost?
Not sure what you want to tell us with this?
free Palestine
I agree with your support of a free Palestine, but being willfully dense and single issue is reductionist and doesn’t help your argument. Compassion for all oppressed people is key. We are all a part of this. We all deserve to see these wrongs righted.
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Bro, you’re driving on the wrong side of the road 😂
To be clear, I mean subject matter and not sides of a conflict.
Correct, but entirely unrelated to the matter at hand
so do kill people in Palestine
The original point of BLM was…one group of people shouting stop killing their own to a nation that was oblivious and/or not caring. Arguing that other people are also dying kind of misses the point and helps to hide what BLM was trying to show.
free Palestine
Good thing we can do more than a single thing at a time.
STOP CARING ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE!!1! YOU’RE KILLING PALESTINIANS !!1!
That guy probably
let me explain.
if black lives don’t matter then no lives matter because when we allow one of us to be oppressed we are all oppressed.
this is why black lives matter.
the movement is literally calling out the violence and oppression that our government and society has manufactured against minorities and is now being weaponized against all of us.
ok, but the same is true for many other groups, not just black people.
BLM is about not killing people, that’s the “lives” part.
Do you think that these are in opposition to one another? What is the comparison you are trying to make?
They used “>”, not “!=”.
What is the comparison you are trying to make?
It’s a low effort troll. Please don’t feed the troll.
My understanding of the word “shitpost” is that it means good-natured trolling.
Precisely
my understanding is that you post shit
When did Lemmy get infected with the disease known as conservatism? You have truth social so why come here?
My face when the open platform is open:
It is pretty obvious that this platform is very left leaning
Left leaning does not necessarily mean all people on it are lefties.
Seriously, there’s a conservative community on .world. I think, I blocked it forever ago.
But it means most of the conservatives are too afraid to spit their bile.
The conservative community you’re referring to has long been taken over by lefties satirizing conservatives
my expectation is that this troll is not merely conservative, but actually intentionally malicious.
🙄
BLM = don’t kill people if you want to put it real simple
BLM = don’t kill black people
FTFY
Yeah, but as I stated, I simplified it to bare minimum
I mean this illustrates the issue.
I’m honestly surprised how many lemmings are against not killing people.
It’s not that, but your original message sounds like the stupid “all lives matter” bullshit
Or maybe just don’t kill people? Idk fuck me.
