(Shamelessly stealing this image from some crackpot carnivore diet community elsewhere on the lemmyverse, with which I have never once interacted, but noticed I have been banned from. Lulz.)
Just want to comment here, because some people seem to be trying to spread a stinky narrative: yes virtually all plants contain “toxins”. No, that does not mean they are toxic or poisonous to us. Caffeine is literally a natural pesticide; and yet coffee and teas are well known to be beneficial to our health and longevity, for just one example.
Spices are an easy way to give any meal not only better flavor, but a small punch of phytonutrients that most people are sorely lacking.
Don’t let the crackpot carnivores spread their lies.
Hey, last I checked, you have omnivores, vegetarians, and vegans. Pretty much no one is purely carnivore. Besides, I’ve never heard of an omnivore complain about having to eat “plants” (spices), unless it’s a child who doesn’t like broccoli or something.
Sir, this is a shitpost
Damn, touche.
There is actually a weird group of people doing a carnivore diet where you basically only eat animal products. Literally to the point of what the meme posted says of not eating like spices, or food cooked in olive oil. It’s wild lol.
I follow some of those people.
What I learned is you shouldn’t do it. Do you know what happens to your poop when you take out fiber from your diet? It just leaks out.
Others claim extreme constipation like 3 days. I don’t know if I believe that.
Fun fact, those two things go together. My oldest is autistic and needed several rounds of feeding therapy before he’d eat anything but Chicken Nuggets like 90% of the time.
if your constipation gets extreme enough your bowels start being unable to pull liquid out of what comes into them. So you go from being unable to poop at all to suddenly just having the still liquid stuff leaking out around the blockage being the only thing that can come out.
I’ll probably regret going there ….
But could this be a scenario where the cheapest chicken tenders are good? Is there any fiber to whatever they use for filler?
extreme constipation like 3 days
Fun fact: this is not extreme. Extreme is more than a week. 3 days is the minimal threshold for constipation.
Everyone keeps saying “fun fact” dealin with 💩 info. 😂
Thank you for the info.
I’m laughing harder than is the poop of a fiber detested.
Oh hey, another Jordan Peterson fan! *fistbump*
Omnivore or not, it doesn’t hurt to question how desirable or perceptibly necessary meat really is or isn’t, when it’s not dressed up by so many other ingredients. People often assume that they could “never give up meat,” but in most cases when people do reduce or abstain from animal products, they find that animal flesh is actually the easiest thing to let go of. Dairy is usually the most challenging one.
how desirable or perceptibly necessary meat really
Oh boy.
Every damn study we have, plus at least 800.000 years of human evolution cooking over fire:
- we should eat everything in moderation, balanced diet is varied diet.
That concludes any and all ted talks on should we eat animal products for health.
Now, the question then is: okay, then how much meat should I eat: about 300 gram* once or twice a week seems like the sweet spot. A little more if recovering from injuries. A little more if you’re growing up. A little more in old age if you notice you’re losing weight.
Source: idk, all the damn studies we make on large populations, e.g. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2803089/
- Varied meat. Includes offal. White and red.
It didn’t occur to me until now that all spices are plant-derived (except salt, if you consider that to be a spice). I wonder if there are other planets out there where some spices are produced from animals.
You probably downvoted one of the orbiting cult communities Jet polices and so he banned you from all of them. He bans anyone who downvotes those communities. Though now he does it by a proxy account these days by the looks.
Banning for a single downvote seems a bit extreme lol
Extreme? He’s fucking nuts. His alts are nuts too, you can see him patting himself on the back in his stupid fucking communities
It’s strange because I’ve only had good interactions with them. They were very helpful and gave me advice regarding some health issues, and even took the time to research some stuff with me
Uh, just because they gave you advice doesn’t mean it was good advice. It is not wise to take nutritional or health advice from wannabe influencers.
I take advice that seems like good advice, and makes sense to me. Your advice seems like good advice, but applied selectively
Which advice was that?
(I didn’t downvote you) It’s just weird and frustrating that people choose a hill like that to die on. It is manifestly untrue that humans are carnivores. It’s just weird (and sorry for being a little heated in my earlier reply)
I remove my own upvote from my comments; it’s my own weird thing 😂
And no worries. I think food is one of those things that is extremely specific to each person. I’m sure most people would hate what I eat every day. I would describe it as “low-GI vegetarian”
It’s strange because I’ve only had good interactions with them. They were very helpful and gave me advice regarding some health issues, and even took the time to research some stuff with me
Probably. I have had interactions with them in comments on posts before too. Oh well, anyway.
Best of both worlds!
I’ve cut back on meat over the past couple of years, but I reserve the right to have a plate of chicken tenders when coping with emotional distress.
In medical literature and studies, vegans are often described as someone who eats meat no more than once a month. :)
Sure, but that’s wrong and used for convenience because the terminology got muddled early on. That was the original definition (i.e., no eating animal products), but the Vegan Society who created the term changed it not long after (in the 1940s?) to include avoiding exploitation generally “as far as is possible and practicable”. That’s because veganism is an ethical movement that sees this exploitation as fundamentally wrong. There’s still a note about this original definition at the end, of course, because a dietary term is largely how it exists in the minds of non-vegans.
What you’re referring to is a plant-based diet(er) (or “strict plant-based diet” if you want to be really clear and beat marketing buzz). Calling a vegan “someone who eats meat no more often than a month” in the sense of how vegans use the term would be like defining someone who’s anti-dog-abuse as someone who kicks their dog at most once a month.
(Edit: Notably, “vegan diet” is used among vegans, but because it’s a diet that comes as a consequence of being vegan, not because following it makes you vegan.)
TL;DR: That’s a definition used mainly among non-vegans.
Valid, I also treat myself to a steak for my birthday
I never liked chicken nuggets until going vegan, lol. The plant-based ones are amazing.
Truuue, fast food chicken is fake as fuck anyway, it has already been properly imitated.
Even better, when I feel as a lazy fuck I throw the nuggets to the microwave for 30s and eat them with ketchup. They aren’t “raw” so it’s safe to do so, suck it meat tendies you can’t compete.
“Vegetarian + tendies” is completely valid.
You ever try any of the plant-based tender type foods? Even if I wasn’t already vegan, I’d still want to choose those over animal-based tenders just cause they’re that good.
I have! I like the MorningStar Farms ones with some sweet and sour sauce.
Those are tasty, and I appreciate that they tend to be a lower price than most other products.
The only plant I put on a steak is a little black pepper. I put more rocks (salt) on it than plants.
I would even suggest an actual pepper steak. If not, a bit of horseradish is sometimes nice too.
Beef steak’s proper function is as a delivery system for chimmichurri, since it’s gauche to just drink it straight.
Garlic, soy sauce, salt. Usually on a london broil, but that steak is SO good.
I marinate cheap flat iron cuts in a mix of ginger, garlic, soy sauce, vinegar, olive oil, and a tiny bit of toasted sesame oil. Better than anything I’ve gotten for a premium at a restaurant.
I like plant too. Why discriminate 🤷♂️
Meat is too delicious, I need to add a little plant based poison to it each time to avoid meat addiction.
Didn’t some meat-guy literally try to argue vegetables are toxic to humans or some shit
Everything is toxic to humans at high enough dose
I mean if you stuff your mouth with 30 kgs of carrots you will die. Sounds toxic to me :D
What if you use them as a suppository? 🤔
Isn’t there at least one person for ANY kind of bullshit? Also, the father of medicine said once: “everything is lethal, the dosage is what matters” 😁
Yea but I’m talking about some carnivore diet influencer, might have been jordan peterson, who claimed humans can’t even digest vegetables or some shit
…i would fear people who actually would believe such a thing. You don’t need a phd in medicine to know otherwise. Heck, you don’t even need any school-knowledge for that.
Oh I’ve heard that. Idiots starting with a grain of truth on characteristics of “insoluble fiber” and going off into la la land
Well many plants don’t want to be eaten or just by specific animals so they have stuff like gluten that is actually a feeding deterrent. Most allergies come from these feeding deterrents. So well yes most plants are toxic we have just learned to eat them - mostly.
Or capsaicin. I hate when plants produce that, LoL
Gotta add some veggies to your diet.
I don’t. Embraced english food thought, even if not what they call food over there. Some rocks on my sliced and fried potatos and a bit of the same rocks on my red meat.
One does not eat chicken unseasoned tho. Tastes like cardboard.
Season your chicken with bacon grease.
It’s the rocks that make them crunchy.
If you like meat so much, why do you eat plants and/or seasoning from the get to?
So one of my favorite seasonings to add to hamburger, along with other beef and some pork stuff is… Beef Bullion.
Now you may scoff at the idea of this redundancy, but give it a try next time you make hamburger or beef tacos or whatever. if not, you’re missing out.
Now you should buy stock and use it instead of water in most cooking.
Or better yet, save ya bones and end pieces of meat and veg, brown it and use it to make your own. You can do this just before you cook, or whenever and just freeze or can it. If you go with the store stuff, buy stock based off of which one has the highest protein content.
I do that myself on occasion, but I seldom boil much stuff. A lil beef or chicken stock is good in mashed potatoes or in rice, but most of the time , unless I’m making a soup I use powdered bullion. It tastes better. Not even just my opinion. Blind taste tests always have most people prefer the “fake” stuff.
Have you heard of Demi Glacé? Chef John has a good cheater recipe if you’re interested in home make and less beef pricey.
I have not, but I’m intrigued.
Chef John from foodwishes is awesome!
The only meat I like to eat pure is the flesh of my enemies.
I have no need to savor the taste of my superiority over a cow or turkey.
plant-based mock-meats
Why make plants taste like meat?
That’s the joke dude.
But also it’s for the noobs. Nonvegans will continuously conjure up every excuse possible to keep supporting cruelty, to the point that we now evidently have to make special science meats that people will also probably try to make excuses to avoid.
no one supports cruelty
