• rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Fun fact, the Nicine Creed exists because this question was a legitimate crisis of Christianity. The council of Nicaea determined that Jesus was not created by God but rather “begotten”, meaning he was equivalent to God but not the same as God, and has existed for all eternity as part of God

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        Oh, sure. Mock Christianity. But no one bats an eye when Tolkien retcons half of The Hobbit and gives an excuse like “well the book is written by Bilbo and he lied at first”.

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          The difference is that, afaik, Christianity has people that believes that Bible is NOT fiction, while nobody thinks that The Hobbit is a historical book.

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          I don’t remember anyone telling me that bilbo was the son of God, so I think we can hold different yardsticks here.

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            I dont think so. The hobbit+lord of the rings are “Tolkien’s translation of the red book written by Bilbo and Frodo into English” (not a direct quote). Middle earth is our earth and our history.

            I don’t think he said “its real bro trust me” like the book of Mormon, but “its real in a fictional real world”

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          I mean, The Hobbit was primarily written to be a children’s bedtime story. The fact that adults latched onto it was sort of an accident. Tolkien was primarily a linguist, not a writer. He developed several fake languages, and wanted an excuse to use them. So he did a ton of world building, just to have a reason to write song lyrics in elvish and dwarven.

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            Well I’ve already met him, but the first time Jabba the Hut wasn’t in the background, so I’d definitely like a do-over.

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        Not even merging neutron stars can approach the mental gymnastics of the religious. Magnetars all be like, “Dude! Can’t handle it.”

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      Don’t got why people have all kind of reactions to this when it’s literally the most basic knowledge of Christianity, that Jesus is 100% God and 100% Man and that he had to die “so that everyone who believes in him may not perish but have eternal life” because he was literally the only person born without the original sin and didn’t sin at all, at the same time he always existed as part of Trinity (the verb/the son) and then “the verb became flesh” How mfs live their lives in countries of christian majority and are surprised by this?

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        What’s so hard to understand and what causes surprise is that, how the fuck does someone existed all the eternity, but got incarnated, and isn’t the same as God, but is 100% God, and had to basically commit suicide because he wanted to save humanity, it’s everything so contradictory that I truly don’t know how someone can believe in that not ironically

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        that Jesus is 100% God and 100% Man

        That makes about as much sense as Trump saying that prices were down by 500%.

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        Honestly if Christianity is not part of your life, why would you know that? I grew up a Christian but “the verb” is very doctrinally specific wording that I’ve never heard before. I think you’re really overestimating the influence that someone else’s religion would have on you

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          Honestly if Christianity is not part of your life, why would you know that?

          Agreed. What i find annoying is people seeding hatred about christianity like it’s their full-time job, but then not taking the time to read how any of the religion works. They’re the ones who should know how the cited “begotten, not made” factoid works.

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        Don’t get why people have all kind of reactions to this when it’s literally the most basic knowledge of Christianity, that Jesus is 100% God and 100% Man

        The reactions are because people are learning that the council’s conclusions were controversial. Before the council it was not a dominant view. A large portion of early church fathers (and mothers) would be considered heretics by Nicene Christians.

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        No, Mary was the only one born without sin, the immaculate conception. Jesus was from the virgin birth, but I think it was just assumed he was without sin. The more you think about any of this the less sense it makes.

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    18 hours ago

    Sorry Joseph I have to cuck you with your virgin wife. I swear this isn’t some fantasy of mine

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    When you cuckslurp after god you get certain powers and also sainthood

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      Well shit, I sure fuckin hope so. Better be some dopeass fuckin primo certain powers, too, right up there with the motherfuckin seraphim and shit. None of that “shooting spaghetti out of my fingertips” horseshit. If you’re being rude, I can shoot a laser out of my cock.

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    Once you’ve fucked the Holy Ghost you know where the magic happens. Definitely not with the village carpenter.

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      With some sprinkles of other religions traditions to convert everyone easly