the sin of Lust, in this case via sexual intercourse before the unification of man and woman as one and without the purpose of reproduction, corrupts our soul, our mind, our body and our very nature and destroys our relationship with Christ and our community
throwing rocks at a puppy may be “fun”, but question, is it right?
Well, I mean, textually yes? Exodus 21:28 - you’re to kill an animal (often translated as an ox) that kills a person by stoning to death.
But I agree that it’s a stupid example - possibly because life is far too complex to be reduced to a set of simple, contextless rules and categories like ‘sin’
Hu-man-it-ee vit-ay? My goodness, what a new and novel document I have never encountered before. This surely will change my outlook!
… Yeah, listen, Paulmbo #6 sat by preaching about morality while blithely presiding over the foundation of a pedophilia ring so massive it makes epstien look like a weekend hobbyist. Not only that, by publishing Humanitae Vitae he’s directly responsible for causing the rise of catholic anti intellectualism and the decline of the church into the joke of an institution it is today. He’s a reaaaaaally bad choice for a source.
Correct! Well done! You get a cookie! However, addressing the applicability and/or bias of a source (as I have done here) is not in itself fallacious, even if it involves addressing their character or actions.
Ex: Donald Trump says pedophilia isn’t bad. Pointing out that he’s a poor authority on the morality of pedophilia because he himself is a pedophile and rapist is not a (edit:) fallacious ad-homenim either, because it’s not a dismissal of his argument, it’s a dismissal of the value of his argument based on the present biases. Even though this is an ad hominem, it’s not a fallacy because of the magnitude of the bias. It’s a very important distinction.
the relocation of priests happened on the diocesan level and not the vatican level
The holy see is internationally recognized as a sovereign entity - I must have missed how that means it’s only in charge for the good bits, and isn’t in responsible for the bad ones.
I see you’ve simply ignored my comment where I made you aware of the Catholic Church agreeing that sex is important for emotional bonding between partners and does not necessarily have to be for the purpose of reproduction. Cool.
To have sexual feelings for one’s spouse or to enjoy sexual pleasure with one’s spouse is fine and according to God’s design. But to use one’s spouse as an object of pleasure without concern for the spouse is mortally sinful.
its not a sin to ENJOY it, its a sin to do it for any other reason than procreation
Then by the Allfather you must be committing the sin of being a buzzkill. Let folks have their holy blowjobs, if ya need to go to a priest for that you prolly don’t have much else going for ya.
Maybe to you it corrupts the soul but to me it’d count as a holy blowjob, fornication ain’t a sin in my faith. Lest you couldn’t tell by my invocation of the Allfather let me make it far simpler for ya, I worship Odin the chief god of the Aesir not Yahweh or Christ or Muhammad. So from my perspective who gives a fuck if some priest or priestess gives blowjobs to their congregation, sacred prostitution used to be a thing even in early Christianity let alone outside of your religious structure.
Look up early synchrotism between Aphrodite/ Isis/ Venus cults and early/ proto Christianity unironically interesting shit but also abscure as fuck.
Also I’ve taken a long look at your Christ and found him lacking even if he is respectable. But I have willingly chosen to follow the Allfather, I rarely back out of my choices.
I read the Bible multiple times and found it lacking, be it the hypocrisy, the abuse, or the dishonor within I found little more than disgust for the god of Abraham. Which is funny as I went in trying to strengthen a pitiful bit of faith.
The same cannot be said for my readings of the Poetic Edda and the Pros Edda, while not instant it did create a new faith in me and like the World Serpent growing in the ocean I soon found it strong and unyielding.
It wasn’t instant nor was it a choice in a direct sense, but it was my choice to further embrace the teachings of the Old Gods and to follow Odin. Fact of the matter is there is nothing you or any other Bible thumper could do to break my faith, frankly you’re more likely to just piss me off and encourage me to invoke sacred bloodshed which is to say bash you over the head until ya stop twitching.
John 15:6 If anyone does not abide in me, he will be cast away, like a branch, and he will wither, and they will gather him and cast him into the fire, and he burns.
Hell is the abscense of God, God made us exist, so in the Abyss we cannot exist
the sin of Lust, in this case via sexual intercourse before the unification of man and woman as one and without the purpose of reproduction, corrupts our soul, our mind, our body and our very nature and destroys our relationship with Christ and our community
Sin appears to be freedom until you try to stop
“Things that are fun are bad, actually”
- Religion.
“All things that feel good and make you depend on them to the point it is classified a “need” by modern society are good actually”
Just because it is “fun” doesnt mean it is right
“fun” or pleasure should not be a goal
for a group of children, throwing rocks at a puppy may be “fun”, but question, is it right?
pleasure ≠ righteousness
Well, I mean, textually yes? Exodus 21:28 - you’re to kill an animal (often translated as an ox) that kills a person by stoning to death.
But I agree that it’s a stupid example - possibly because life is far too complex to be reduced to a set of simple, contextless rules and categories like ‘sin’
did the puppy kill a person?
and the old testament was fulfilled by Jesus
and it was in preparation of the Messiah
and he came down to Earth, died and was ressurected
who prepares for the groom’s arrival even after he has arrived instead of addressing and serving him?
And well, the ten commandments are just the basics that you need to follow
research theology further
and read Humanitae Vitae
for why this kind of stuff is bad
Hu-man-it-ee vit-ay? My goodness, what a new and novel document I have never encountered before. This surely will change my outlook!
… Yeah, listen, Paulmbo #6 sat by preaching about morality while blithely presiding over the foundation of a pedophilia ring so massive it makes epstien look like a weekend hobbyist. Not only that, by publishing Humanitae Vitae he’s directly responsible for causing the rise of catholic anti intellectualism and the decline of the church into the joke of an institution it is today. He’s a reaaaaaally bad choice for a source.
ad hominem
and this presides over the moral atrocities of the Sexual Revolution
https://youtu.be/dLqr-AFkK6Y in video form
and “pedophilia ring”? the relocation of priests happened on the diocesan level and not the vatican level
the entirety of the US Bishops and president and vice president of the USCCB were summoned to Rome for this
Correct! Well done! You get a cookie! However, addressing the applicability and/or bias of a source (as I have done here) is not in itself fallacious, even if it involves addressing their character or actions.
Ex: Donald Trump says pedophilia isn’t bad. Pointing out that he’s a poor authority on the morality of pedophilia because he himself is a pedophile and rapist is not a (edit:) fallacious ad-homenim either, because it’s not a dismissal of his argument, it’s a dismissal of the value of his argument based on the present biases. Even though this is an ad hominem, it’s not a fallacy because of the magnitude of the bias. It’s a very important distinction.
The holy see is internationally recognized as a sovereign entity - I must have missed how that means it’s only in charge for the good bits, and isn’t in responsible for the bad ones.
I apologize, but I am not watching a youtube vid for this.
Yeah, I too think the beatles were overrated…
please try watching the video
and the church definitely isnt a “pedophile ring”
I see you’ve simply ignored my comment where I made you aware of the Catholic Church agreeing that sex is important for emotional bonding between partners and does not necessarily have to be for the purpose of reproduction. Cool.
where is your source?
and read humanitae vitae
Sex can be emotionally bonding when in marriage and for the purpose of reproduction, as to produce offspring, but never fall into the vice of hedonism
many have been fooled into thinking sex is a “need”
imagine a world of coke addicts unanimously agreeing that coke is a need
Source is my Catholic upbringing.
“the source is my parents”
and what is your parents source?
Catholic upbringing includes a lot more than just “parents”. If you won’t accept what clergy is saying, I can’t help you.
again, “my upbringing” is not a source
the catholic church did not ever say that sex was supposed to be practiced for any other reason than procreation and offspring
https://www.catholic.com/qa/is-it-true-that-sexual-intercourse-between-a-married-couple-is-sinful-if-the-spouses-do-it-with
There you go.
To have sexual feelings for one’s spouse or to enjoy sexual pleasure with one’s spouse is fine and according to God’s design. But to use one’s spouse as an object of pleasure without concern for the spouse is mortally sinful.
its not a sin to ENJOY it, its a sin to do it for any other reason than procreation
?
Then by the Allfather you must be committing the sin of being a buzzkill. Let folks have their holy blowjobs, if ya need to go to a priest for that you prolly don’t have much else going for ya.
Maybe to you it corrupts the soul but to me it’d count as a holy blowjob, fornication ain’t a sin in my faith. Lest you couldn’t tell by my invocation of the Allfather let me make it far simpler for ya, I worship Odin the chief god of the Aesir not Yahweh or Christ or Muhammad. So from my perspective who gives a fuck if some priest or priestess gives blowjobs to their congregation, sacred prostitution used to be a thing even in early Christianity let alone outside of your religious structure.
proof?
and please do not gamble with your eternal life
Turn to Christ
Look up early synchrotism between Aphrodite/ Isis/ Venus cults and early/ proto Christianity unironically interesting shit but also abscure as fuck.
Also I’ve taken a long look at your Christ and found him lacking even if he is respectable. But I have willingly chosen to follow the Allfather, I rarely back out of my choices.
Iz Wodanaz Weraz
Can you exain why you didnt choose God?
I read the Bible multiple times and found it lacking, be it the hypocrisy, the abuse, or the dishonor within I found little more than disgust for the god of Abraham. Which is funny as I went in trying to strengthen a pitiful bit of faith.
The same cannot be said for my readings of the Poetic Edda and the Pros Edda, while not instant it did create a new faith in me and like the World Serpent growing in the ocean I soon found it strong and unyielding.
It wasn’t instant nor was it a choice in a direct sense, but it was my choice to further embrace the teachings of the Old Gods and to follow Odin. Fact of the matter is there is nothing you or any other Bible thumper could do to break my faith, frankly you’re more likely to just piss me off and encourage me to invoke sacred bloodshed which is to say bash you over the head until ya stop twitching.
the hypocrisy, dishonor? can I have the verses?
Which eternal life should I bet on. The other hells sound worse than the Christian one. Please do not gamble your eternal life and look elsewhere
Please actually research the faith
Which one are you? I’ll get to it after I look through some others.
catholicism
hell is the abyss, the fire is just how you get burned and turned to ash and then you just stop existing
u got a source on that because uh. What. No?
John 15:6 If anyone does not abide in me, he will be cast away, like a branch, and he will wither, and they will gather him and cast him into the fire, and he burns.
Hell is the abscense of God, God made us exist, so in the Abyss we cannot exist
There’s pretty much no believers, what are you doing?