I can’t. I just can’t.
What the fuck? When did Congress pass this, and why wasn’t there a huge public outcry against it?
2021
Why are govts like this suddenly? All in a arms race against privacy?
Control, why else?
This was mandated by the 2021 infrastructure bill. I was hoping it got scrapped but apparently not.
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And when all the used cars are gone and I’m forced to buy one of these I’ll promptly be destroying the radio transmitters and everything related to this surveillance.
Straight to jail.
Right away.
the “surveillance” seems to happen on the car locally. Kind of an expansion of current driver attention systems to include impairment detection.
“Local” surveillance happening on the same car computer that’s attached to a SIM card.
Yeah seems safe
It’s local right until the law enforcement gets into Bluetooth range with the right encryption keys to download all of the data for the past year.
Bold of you to assume any of this will be encrypted.
2027, year of Linux car, or bicycle.
I am never buying a car built after 2016
Why 2016 specifically?
It depends on the make but that’s when I feel cars tipped the scale to becoming appliances
2018 makes more sense, that’s when backup cameras were mandatory so since they were putting in a screen manufacturers made every car have an ‘infotainment’ center and with all of that processing power comes logging and other privacy invading features.
Really I don’t go past 2008 myself. That was a cliff car manufactures went off after the sub prime mortgage fun fun time.
Naaaaah, my 2016 RAV4 Hybrid is balling. Back up camera, 360 sensors, remote start, heated seats, medium screen with buttons and knobs instead of touch, push start, stick shift, and the best part: no wifi on-board (through my phone only). Cars peaked right here.
I have a 2016 outback. No android auto… But I’m in the same boat. Backup camera. Sensors self driving no wifi no forced updates. Etc.
I don’t need anything more.
Praying for our cars to survive at least another 15 years, bud 🙏
Reminder that this requires all vehicles be SOLD with the tech. It says nothing about what happens to it after purchase.
Just pull the fuse for the onstar radio. It can log all it wants locally.
It’ll be like every other car with driver assistance and every other advanced feature now, everything gets strapped to the same CANbus and unified powerttrain control module so disabling one part of the system causes the car to get stuck in limp mode, have constant nusiance alerts, and fail state inspections to get registered.
Removing “safety features” from a car is illegal, btw
And when they call the infotanmint crap a “safety feature” and no one lynched a lawmaker over it we know that as a people we have given up.
I’m trying to figure out of this is just the distracted driving safety feature that’s been on every car I’ve bought in the last 6 years. If so it can be disabled and really isn’t that big of a deal when it’s enabled. Just sends you an alert when it detects you weaving within the lane a little too much. I can’t help but think this article might be a little sensationalistic.
Good. Don’t like it? Fuck off public roads
I worked on this a bit. Some of the tricks they had were changing the AC to blow colder air when drowsiness was detected, increasing the blower speed, increasing brightness on the dashboard, and turning the volume up or turning the radio on. They even had turning the radio on and selecting music to combat drowsiness. So I guess you’d get sleepy and then your car would automatically started blasting house music.
Drunk driving is one thing but it will also judge how tired you are? Driving tired is dangerous. Unfortunately a huge portion of our economy runs on people working too many hours at too many jobs. A huge invasion of privacy with all sorts of knockon effects.
For the people who think they will disable this. You won’t be able to without also disabling your car and voiding your warrenty.
You won’t be able to without also disabling your car
Unlikely as that would mean any fault with the system would disable the car which would be a PR nightmare.
These systems can generally be disabled without more than an error light on the dash.
This sort of bullshit is why I am happy to ride a bike.
Let’s spoof the data and say we did it
Well now see, now I’m at a cross roads. On the one hand, fuck privacy violations.
On the other hand, fuck drunk drivers.
I guess in the end, my logic is that this will barely be used to detect drunk drivers, and FULLY used to track you in real time.
So lets all fuck over their technology by making nothing but right turns for 8 hours. Just a massive small circle. For 8 hours, every day.
Then it will be assumed their tracking is broken, and they’ll waste time figuring out whats broken.
If we all do this, every day, in electric vehicles powered by solar chargers, then we’ll save the world!
This is just “protect the children” in a different form. Could it be used to stop drunk drivers? Sure, maybe. Is that the motivation? Hell no.
There’s a difference between monitoring driving and monitoring drivers. I would be less concerned about tech that identifies when I’m running stop signs, drifting into other lanes, or quickly braking without a nearby obstacle to warrant it. This sounds like it’s monitoring the human driver, at all times. Given the bullshit this admin is up to I wouldn’t put it passed the software or hardware makers to “calibrate” it by race so black and brown people are 3x more likely to trip the sensors.
That’s the thing. You can’t just conditionally spy on people only when they’re doing evil acts. You’re either surveiling innocent people or you’re not.
Punishing drunk drivers wont solve the problem. So even if that was the case the better option would be to deal with the problem at the source. Which they already would have if they cared enough. Since they havent i think its fair to assume this is not the main objective of this.
Or… leave the tech sitting at home reporting a pre-recorded route over and over.
How are you going to leave the tech at home when the tech is the car?
lol there’s going to be a lot of people hanging out in the bar parking lot for a few hours after last call
