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    And then Trump closes the Straight of Hormuz and ev sales increase. The question is whether Tesla gets a boost.

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      It’s funny how that wasn’t really a problem until they found that bond underwater car in a garage recorded by a tesla and it belonged to nazi musk.

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    Isn’t that like 50k x 20k$ (rough costs estimate) = 1B$ of slowly realizing losses?

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      Most car dealers have months of inventory, Tesla typically has a couple weeks or less. In the grand scheme of things compared to other automakers this is actually tiny, and they are usually on the bottom of the list of OEM inventory.

      For Tesla though, this is higher than usual, and unless most of them are in transit to customers, indicative of an issue.

      Edit: Just for reference.

      Q4 2024 - 12 days

      Q1 2025 - 22 days

      Q2 2025 - 24 days

      Q3 2025 - 10 days

      Q4-2025 -15 days

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          I think there was that brief period of interest when Trump turned the White House driveway into a car dealership ad for Elon. But yeah, you’re right. They’re all gas-fueled motorheads.

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            This is what I see as well. The pro-musk US group hates EVs. The pro-EV US group hates Elon. Then there’s the other 60% of the country that doesn’t have a strong enough opinion to post about it online. I am surrounded by new Teslas despite being a in very blue city metro. It’s obvious because the 3/Y got a facelift during the height of the musk/trump romance

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    You got to be a special kind of asshole if you’re buying a Tesla these days.

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      I didn’t realize TSLA stock had an upward trend most of last year and is only heading downhill this year.

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      And if you own one from before, the only responsible thing to do is sell it on the used market to reduce demand for their new cars. You might not get the price you want but come on. You could afford a Tesla; I’m not crying for your pocketbook.

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      Not only that, you sort of have to hate having money.

      With the cyber trucks having shit glued on them all over the place the company just seems laughable.

      If I’m putting down (potentially) luxury car money I better damned well have a luxury car.

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      Their Q1 sales were actually up over last year. It’s insane.

      The same kind of pieces of shit that still use Twitter.

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        Yeah it’s not just Indians:

        1000046677

        In 2025:

        According to the analysis, Tesla achieved loyalty rates of 63.6% among Asian households and 61.9% among Hispanic households. These figures exceeded national averages.

        Favorability / loyalty have dropped across all groups over the past several years.

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          Tesla has 35% market share in Norway.

          France saw an increase in Tesla registrations by 203% year over year.

          Sweden had a 144% increase in registrations. Denmark had a 96% increase.

          In the US, the core demographic remains white male, ~48 years old, with a household income exceeding $140,000, particularly in conservative states (Texas/Florida).

          Part of the problem is that competition is still lacking in many ways especially when it comes to charging infrastructure.

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            Yeah, I have to say, I still see Tesla as the leader by far here in the us. And given how price of cars has skyrocketed, teslas are now also “affordable”. It’s a shame they seem to be abandoning the car market. There’s finally some EV choice but not much, half of the choice was just cancelled, and most are not good.

            Rivian is our best choice for the next compelling EV, but R2 cost significantly more than Tesla.

            • A lot of people online like the Equinox and it’s inexpensive, but poor efficiency, horrible software and no CarPlay. Also I’ve never seen one. GM cars in general don’t do well in my part of the US so it would be challenge to get people to see they exist
            • Lucid looks great on paper and I’m excited to see their mass market vehicles in a year or two, but they e really been struggling. I hope the saudis continue to see it through
            • Hyundai/Kia have been kicking ass on choice but low efficiency and still haven’t kicked their historical reputations for poor quality and easy to steal
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              I hope the R2 works out well. I’m not planning on getting a new car in the near future, so by the time I do, it should have all it’s kinks ironed out and be a great towing vehicle for a light camping trailer.

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            The competition is not lacking at all if you’ve been paying attention. And literally every EV brand can use Tesla chargers now.

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              Depends how much the average consumer is paying attention. Many probably don’t know that every EV can use the Tesla chargers now.

              The competition here is certainly constrained. Most car manufacturers are making less EVs due to decreasing overall demand and expirarion of federal EV tax credits.

              The real competition is on the other side of the Pacific. Europe and Canada have accepted that on some level while the US continues to artificially prop up its EV market ex-China.

              There are legitimate concerns don’t get me wrong. But the US won’t be able to hide from a more dynamic and competitive product forever.

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                the US continues to artificially prop up its EV market ex-China.

                It’s not even that: a little protectionism is normal trade policy globally. This would be fine, if it were temporary and if there was a goal to develop the domestic industry.

                The real problem is the combination of protectionism, while also rejecting the technology change and shrinking down to the home market. The protectionism will stop at some point. Realistically it has to. But when it does, American legacy manufacturers will find themselves struggling to sell buggy whips to a world that sees them as museum displays. We’re trying to milk a few more years out of the legacy technology at the cost of totally ignoring the future

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                  This is absolutely true.

                  Even with the advent of the Industrial Revolution, Britain initially struggled to compete with the sheer quality and cost-effectiveness of Indian hand-woven fabrics.

                  They instituted a 100% tariff on importation of Indian fabric to support their nascent mechanized textile manufacturing.

                  This allowed them to hone the machinery by creating a sandbox to grow their new expertise in. The quality could not match what was produced by hand but the sheer volume and efficiency could easily outdo manual methods.

                  Over time as they gained political influence, they were able to point guns at and break the thumbs of the right people in India effectively eradicating Indias domestic textile industry.

                  They then forced Indian markets to accept British cloth with no tariff, making that consumer sandbox bigger.

                  Minus the colonial / coercive economics at the end there, this is an example of Britain using tariffs very effectively to grow their own industry while taking down a global leader in textiles (one that even the Romans wrote of 1500 years prior).

                  May well have played out the same without supportive policy, but the protectionism certainly helped them grow their own industry faster and the violent / coercive colonial element helped them remove a traditional, higher quality though analog/manual competitor sooner.

                  What America is doing is more of a dying empire vibe. Protection for the sake of clinging to the old and familiar way, with no plan or strategy to adapt for the future.

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    It seems like there’s a market for a company that will buy Teslas ultra cheap, modifies them heavily, then rebadges them like Alpine does for Renault, AMG does / did for Mercedes, Abarth for Fiat, etc.

    These days those are all subsidiaries of the main brand, and even before that they had a cooperative relationship with the main brand. But, I can imagine a setup where the main brand doesn’t support or approve of what the modifier company does.

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      I suggest the rebadged name should be Antifa.

      Even better, Tesla and all other Musk businesses should be forced into bankruptcy.

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          Musk is much more of an Edison than a Tesla. If he’d been honest he would have named his cars Edison. Then, the cool rebadge could have been Tesla. But, even he was smart enough to realize what an asshole Edison was, even if he didn’t recognize the Edison in himself.

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    Elon couldn’t pay me to buy a Tesla. I like EVs. It’s not about the technology. It’s entirely about Elon. I’d rather buy Japanese or South Korean, thank you.

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    At this point i no longer care if they lower the price until they’re free. They will have to sell them as scrap at a loss. I will never, ever, ever buy a Tesla.

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      At one point I was considering buying a Tesla. Then I didn’t like Musk, but felt I could justify buying a used Tesla, as it wasn’t giving him any money.

      Then Nazi salute and DOGE and lol, nope. I won’t even uber a Tesla.

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        felt I could justify buying a used Tesla, as it wasn’t giving him any money

        He’ll still get money for the subscribable services scam and dealer service.

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      I’d take a free Tesla. Pull the batteries and drive modules. Scrap the shell, sell the drive modules, use the batteries for home storage.

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    How did that happen? When I worked at the Fremont plant, we were only putting together vehicles that had already been sold. Did they swap from lean manufacturing to the normal, wasteful “just keep making shit perpetually” model? 🤔

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      They are cashing in production tax incentives and cooking the books. GM did the same thing 2008 before it all collapsed.

      Elon was hoping everyone would just forget his antics.

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        GM did the same thing 2008 before it all collapsed.

        Along with financial chicanery, the only part of GM that was profitable was GMAC. Their shitty cars are loss-leaders for a predatory finance operation.