• GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
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    look, if the children didn’t want to become victims then why did they make themselves so sexy

    – Meta defense (probably)

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    Putting this in fixed-width for scale:

    This ruling:                        375,000,000
    Meta valuation:               1,618,000,000,000
    

    This isn’t even a slap on the wrist; it’s a fucking rounding error.

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      Phrased in another way, it’s equivalent to if you had $1,618 in the bank and were fined $0.30.

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      Super small compared to their income, but a GREAT reason to make all the users age validate.

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    It says Google will already fight the lawsuit and zuckerberg wants to as well, lmao and he says he wants to protect children but he won’t even admit fault with victims? Asshole. There’s literally a docu about it: Molly vs the machines.

    The two companies probably have to pay more than 3 million dollars. In the next phase of the trial, the jury examines the so-called punitive damages. These are additional damages, intended as an additional penalty.

    And because of this instagram will also remove end-to-end encryption and add age-verification

    The New Mexico case also raised concerns that allowing teens to use end-to-end encryption on Instagram chats — a privacy measure that blocks anyone other than sender and receiver from viewing a conversation — could make it harder for law enforcement to catch predators. Midway through trial, Meta said it would stop supporting end-to-end-encrypted messaging on Instagram later this year.

    Regarding the encryption decision, a Meta spokesperson told CNN that, “very few people were opting in to end-to-end encrypted messaging in DMs, so we’re removing this option from Instagram in the coming months. Anyone who wants to keep messaging with end-to-end encryption can easily do that on WhatsApp.”

    https://edition.cnn.com/2026/03/24/tech/meta-new-mexico-trial-jury-deliberation

    In May, Judge Bryan Biedscheid is slated to hold a trial without a jury on the state’s claims that Meta created a public nuisance that harmed state residents’ health and safety. The state will ask Biedscheid to direct Meta to make changes to its platforms, including adding effective age verification and removing predators, it said Tuesday.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/crime/general/meta-ordered-to-pay-375-million-in-new-mexico-trial-over-child-exploitation-user-safety-claims/ar-AA1ZkHhq

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      If you’re still using Meta spyware in 2026 and think you’re getting true E2E without a backdoor, I’ve got a bridge to sell you.

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        How do they get the key? Isn’t that stored on me and my chatpartners literal phone? You can only get is by physically unlocking it? Show me technical proof? Meta says they only collect metadata, but the actual data is encrypted… ofc that guy lies but then we can drag him in front of a judge. And you’re right ruzzia also hacked meta recently by their linked devices or support bots… U got proof or just a hunch

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          Did you run gpg yourself to generate the key pair, then exchange pub keys with your chat partner? Or did Facebook generate the keys for you from within a closed source application?

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            if it has a backdoor it’s literally not end-to-end encryption at least, and they say it is so… idk so they are literally breaking the law and we can fine them again?

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              You’re misunderstanding what end-to-end encryption is. If they have a copy of your private key, it’s still end to end encrypted. The alternative would be akin to a TLS termination proxy, where your device would encrypt a message using Facebooks public key, they decrypt message, store it, and then Facebook uses your chat partners public key to encrypt and send to them. You cannot send an encrypted message straight through to your chat partner.

              What I’m insinuating is that there’s no way to know if Facebook has a copy of your private key. The message is still end-to-end encrypted, it is encrypted by you using your chat partners public key, and passes through all of Facebooks infrastructure encrypted, until your chat partner receives and decrypts it. If Facebook stores the message, it’s stored encrypted. They can just decrypt it when subpoenaed or whenever they want bc they have the required private key.

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                Ooo mb you’re right yeah, also when you use backups I read… ok something to look into for myself to understand better fr, thanks for this comment btw

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      instagram will […] add age-verification

      Judge Bryan Biedscheid is slated to hold a trial without a jury on the state’s claims that Meta created a public nuisance that harmed state residents’ health and safety. The state will ask Biedscheid to direct Meta

      Listen, I cannot wait for the day that everyone stops using Meta products and Mark Zuckerberg is turned into longpork wagyu in his stolen-land Hawaiian bunker, but the latter statement does not seem to support the initial claim.

      I wouldn’t hold my breath for any changes which will meaningfully impact the profitability of Meta.

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    The details of evasion tactics they used where even harder to read. How fucking irresponsible and outright fucked up do you have to be to OK this shit. Wow.

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    You’re telling me we shouldn’t have trusted a sentient Annabelle doll in a t-shirt and jeans with the safety of defenseless children? Is THAT what you’re telling ME!? … Well, yeah, actually, that makes a lot of sense.

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    Fine Zuckerfuck his entire net worth AND Meta. He’s poor now.

    Now, let’s take a look at Musk, Bezos, and Ellison.

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        Which is too bad, because he is a legendary asshole who deserves as much disparagement and derision as possible. He’s an unrepentant MAGA Traitor and he’s captured about half of the media, including major news sources, which he is reconfiguring to be part of the Conservative Propaganda Machine.

        It all needs to torn from his grasp, his companies broken up, and his business dealings deeply investigated. I have no doubt he’ll be in prison by the time it’s over, which is where he and his equally Sociopathic son belong.

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            And a lot younger, and his son is even younger, and just as Sociopathic. So we’ll be dealing with these jackals for many years to come.

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    Everyone here is cheering this on but the Fediverse is next. If a kid here offs themselves or gets trafficked, that’s all she wrote.

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        I mean the instances. If a kid here in Technology dies, whoever is running this place is on the hook now. And also lemmy.world. I’m still fuzzy about how the Fediverse works, but a scapegoat will be found. This is running on somebody’s computer.

        But also any type of social media in general. We’re heading towards any place where people can talk to each other online will be illegal in order to protect the children.

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      As a regular of the old-internet, including hellsites such as VampireFreaks dot com, I promise it takes more than that for the government to care. VF was the site of two? vampire-inspired teenage murderers and a few other horrors, including one of the admins defending the presence of a convicted pedophile who was banned from using Facebook.

      As for why, my assumption is that you cannot fine an entity which is barely profitable. I mean you can but you won’t get anything, so they’re unlikely to bother.

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        I don’t think that will save it. I’m barely profitable and cops still give me tickets. Times are changing. Governments are coming down hard on the Internet. OSA in the UK forced Urban Dead to shut down. I would have to think admins running instances are feeling a little nervous.

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      Seems like half the problem here is how Suckerberg has handled it, rather than what happened…or have I got that wrong?

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        How does the Fediverse do it better and would that appease the jury in a civil or criminal trial? Those are questions to consider. Perhaps it’s all good. I certainly hope so.

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    Good! Remember though, fines don’t count anymore, only hard time. Remove some years from these fuckers lives and they’ll think twice in the future.

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      Do I have to remind everyone the ending of The Wolf of Wall Street?

      Tap for spoiler

      Rich people go to ricb people prisons that aren’t really prisons and are better than your house.

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        I don’t really care which prison they go to, as long as they also get leased out to do dirty, dangerous, back-breaking manual labor like every other Federal 13th Amendment Labor Slave. Grab that shovel, Inmate 4547.

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            I get it. I remember reading that Ghislane Maxwell was “much much happier” with her new accomodations saying that the food was “legions better,” and staff was “responsive and polite.” Isn’t that nice for her?

            But the business model of American prisons includes 13th Amendment Slavery, so she might not be as happy with that twist.

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        I don’t begrudge rich people going to rich people prison, because the point of prison is to remove dangerous people from society not to torture them in a cage. I do begrudge poor people going to poor people prison, because it seems as though these prisons exist as a means of extracting cheap labor from poor and PoC populations. Or outright abusing them - mentally, physically, and sexually - because this kind of brutality generates political rewards.

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      I don’t know, I’d sacrifice a few years if I knew I’d be released to my Trillion dollar fortune. I’d make that deal.

      They love their money as much as their freedom, each is worthless without the other, so take both.

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      fines don’t count anymore, only hard time

      I mean, you’re assuming this survives one of the eight million appeals the Facebook legal team is going to throw at it.

      But yes, by the time it works itself all the way up and down the appellate courts, I wouldn’t expect this $1.5T company to experience any legal penalties in excess of a few million dollars.

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    Unfortunately, part of the court’s decision was that Facebook wasn’t surveilling people enough.

    The New Mexico court heard how Meta’s 2023 decision to encrypt Facebook Messenger – its direct messaging platform, which predators have used as a tool to groom minors and exchange child abuse imagery – blocked access to crucial evidence of these crimes.

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    The jury ordered Meta to pay the maximum penalty under the law of $5,000 per violation, totaling $375m in civil penalties for violating New Mexico’s consumer protection laws.

    Meta: I guess I will only be able to spend $79.635.000.000 on my next useless venture.