He even had an aircraft part named after him! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooper_vane
Its actually Looney Tunes @.@
Oh yeah electroshock therapy is actually something we still do. I’ve worked at two places actually who do it. They put the patient under full medical sedation like they would for surgery (they even have a little mini recovery and PACU in the ECT suite). In fact the only main difference between an ECT suite and an OR suite is that the actual procedure room is just clean, not fully sterile since they’re not actually opening the person.
On the floor we have to observe all the same pre-op and post-op precautions, like NPO (nothing to eat or drink) after midnight, and changing them into clean clothes in the morning. We don’t have to do a chlorhexidine scrub (again not sterile) but showers are encouraged (sometimes the patient is too sick / overestimulated to tolerate even a bed bath though). Our only special precaution is that we have to stop all anti seizure meds the night before because the whole point is to induce a seizure.
They just put electrodes on kinda like they would with an external defibrillator to stop an abnormal heart rhythm (except obvs they put them on the head, not the chest). Then induce a controlled seizure that lasts like 60 seconds or so, then use medications to stop the seizure if necessary. In fact it’s almost exactly like a heart defibrillator in that we’re turning their brain off and on again to get it to work! Funny that that works with organs like it does with computers! 😅
edit: and since someone asked (and someone did correctly answer a few comments down but-), it’s for catatonia and treatment resistant depression mostly. I’ve had patients so deep in catatonia they can’t eat and need IV fluids to stay hydrated and need to be turned and cleaned to prevent bedsores and other skin breakdown because they literally can’t move. and ECT brings them back somehow. 🤷♀️
The people it works for will keep coming back outpatient usually too. We’ve even had people show up in the ER downstairs saying they can feel the depression / catatonia coming back and wanting to be readmitted for another course (but if they didn’t have complications the first time around they usually just take them back on outpatient). It’s literally life-saving.
There’s real science behind using electricity to heal to be fair, so it’s not all gypsies. I think the latest paper I saw was this: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2025/10/251029100202.htm
Then again, this isn’t really shock therapy.
Afterwards the patients walk around like zombies for many hours and it is incredibly unfun to witness.
um. yeah. they do that after regular surgery too. a shitton of sedatives will do that. ect is also associated with temporary memory loss but it wears off just as quick as with a regular seizure, a little faster even. Also every time I’ve been in the procedure room for it the most that happens is the person’s feet wiggle a little for a few seconds?
idk maybe it’s just that I’ve seen way more terrifying medical shit done when I was sitting suicide watch in the ICU (I’m a DNR after seeing what it takes to keep someone alive at the brink of death) but it was like the least unsettling thing I’ve seen in a procedure room. In my OR clinical rotation the surgeon was literally HAMMERING that Lady’s titanium hip into place for 6 hours.
Shit sounded like a dwarven mine in a fantasy movie just DING DING DING with a fucking hammer in a sliced open little old lady for 6 hours straight. THAT was disturbing. Feet wiggling for a few seconds is nothing. especially not when you see it bring someone back from catatonia so deep they can’t eat.
After being in an ICU for a busy night and being in the same room while another person didn’t make it, I am DNR on like everything. You shouldn’t need to do that to my body for me to be alive.
If you’re willing to share, I would be interested in hearing your reasoning for a DNR if it’s outside of the typical cases (terminal, elderly, etc.). I don’t know a ton about what all they do to resuscitate beyond CPR/AED (when necessary) and possibly general life support measures
Honestly it’s not even the CPR that particularly bothers me, it’s the intubation and the stuff after. I’ve worked with so many patients who don’t have a lot of working neural tissue left and their family just has them medically tortured for years because they want to see them blink occasionally. Next time I update my documents I think I’m going to add that if my family wants something to happen to me that I have to be held down for, they have to be in the room. If they can’t stand to watch / listen to me while it happens, they’ve no right signing off on it.
Gotcha, that makes sense. It’s always baffling to me how we often treat animals with more dignity than people when it comes to end of life care.
A hard reboot will do that to ya.
What kind of conditions is electro therapy used to treat?
Treatment resistant chronic depression.
Not the original commenter, but my understanding is that it’s used for severe depression when other treatments have been unsuccessful, so sort of a last resort. And apparently it’s fairly effective iirc, especially when compared to other treatment options (e.g., antidepressants).
I’m curious as to whether having a seizure disorder would correlate with lower depression rates, or if electroshock-induced seizures may lead to higher chances of having non-induced seizures in the future.
there is actually a huuuge overlap between anticonvulsants / antiseizure medications and anti-manic agents (mania being the opposite of depression).
DB Cooper has been the topic of Drop Zone conversations for years. The jump he made is perfectly doable by anyone trained in the practical application of aerodynamic decelerators. Albeit it was an extremely risky jump as I’ll detail below.
As a matter of fact I’ve gone out the air stairs of a 727. It was at the 1999 at the World Freefall Convention in Quincy, IL. It was fun, but a 727 on jump run is doing about 180kias when normal skydiving operations are around 90kias. It won’t injure you, but it feels like you’re getting hit by a ton of bricks. So not the funnest jump and I only did one, to say I did it. Going out the bomb bay of a B-17 (Nine-O-Nines RIP) was a lot more fun.
The general consensus in the skydiving community is that Cooper lived, but was probably injured. He jumped a round parachute, at night, in poor weather conditions. Even with modern gear that kind jump is extremely risky. Round parachutes go down where the wind blows them after exit. There is a little bit of control with a round, but nothing like a ram air chute.
He probably had a vehicle stashed close to the drop zone and was able to get to it with most of the money. If I recall correctly some of the money was discovered on a creek or riverbank some time later. He probably lived the rest of his life in secure obscurity… Or he might even still be alive.
Only he knows for sure.
And how they also fucked up the investigation by future proofing it for him. Dan Cooper (that’s what he wrote his name as) smoked several cigarettes and kept the butts on the plane, and he had several drinks and… they just threw away the stir sticks he used and also the cigarette butts, hence foiling any attempts to get dna down the line.
Some cases from the 70s and even 60s were solved because some DNA survived on evidence collected. But that was impossible for this case since none were saved.
DB Cooper was Loki, they revealed it in Season 2
It was obviously Tommy Wiseau, how else did he get the money to make his hit movie The Room.
I think Wiseau was living in Poland at the time?
I still think that this is the most entertaining theory. Tommy Wiseau does, too.
Coming to the realization that proper use of free will really does open up so much in life is such a profound benefit.
You can just do shit.
To quote Edward Fox’s character in The Day of the Jackal… it can be done with enough time and planning… the problem is getting away with it.
No body found means that he’s still up there somewhere
He could even be on your plane right now!
There’s…… something…… on…… the wing!
Some… …thing!
They say 1 out of 10 people don’t even make it to the ground
The leading theory is he was a CIA operative, because jumping from the rear stairs like that was something they did in the field.
And the leading theory was he survived, because there was a copycat crime, which worked until the guy was caught on the ground, with the cash.
It just gets crazier the deeper you go.
The weather was terrible for a jump. Nobody who had training would have tried it.
He almost certainly died in the jump.
He also made an offhand comment about the airline, and that suggests a revenge motive.
He was asked why that airline and he specifically said it wasn’t to do with the airline, just that that particular flight suited his needs. He did say “it’s just because I have a grudge”, but he didn’t say what it was.
I also agree he died, mostly because they never found the money in circulation. None of the serial numbers they gave him were ever identified. So it seems he either never spent a cent of it, or he didn’t survive the jump.
If he died in the jump they would have eventually found a body. At the very least he survived long enough to vacate the area.
Some of those areas are really remote. He could have easily died, and his body was then torn apart and scattered by scavengers before anyone could find it.
People frequently get lost in remote areas, die, and never have their bodies found. All that has to happen is that the animals get to the body before search parties do.
Or he could have simply landed in a stream or river, and his body was devoured by fish as it tumbled its way into the sea.
There are plenty of ways for nature to destroy a corpse.
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No no no. You want WoodsScientist. I’m WoodScientist.
Maybe it was just some Kendal Roy type rich boy fucking around and his dad got the authorities to bury it, hence the absolutely nonsensical chain of evidence.
I’m one of today’s lucky 10,000! Thank you, friend! <3
loki showed it was just a dare thor loki and heimdall did
“You are, without doubt, the worst skyjacker I have ever heard of.”
How I jack it in the sky is my business and you have no right to judge me.
But you have heard of me?
Damn, I saw some guy on YouTube last year going through the parachutes harnesses in a barn of a deceased suspect (with permission) and he found the chute while talking to the camera. Was just turning over over on vest at a time in a box and stopped and said “this is it, we found it.”
I think the tape said they turned it over to the FBI? Anyone with more info?
Found the clip:
It would be wild if DB Cooper followed up by watching for who would come out as a suspect and then planted the evidence on their relative’s property after they died.
Huh.
Here’s a Popular Mechanics article that’s exactly one year old: A Secret Parachute in the FBI’s Possession May Have Finally Solved D.B. Cooper’s Identity
And here’s the FBI’s web page over it, which notes they diverted resources to other investigations in 2016, but specifically names McCoy as a favored suspect: D.B. Cooper Hijacking
As far as updates go? I only have sardonic comments about what the FBI is to these days. But I don’t think they are going to work on this one anytime soon.
Thanks! That article linked to the YouTube series I was thinking of:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3DkEmL6aWc&list=PLSFLiSP0zf-btON5DAH8OTmiyv3VRDU-R
This is the moment I mentioned:
Sounds like he’s going for views
It worked, he got over 100k worth:
