um. yeah. they do that after regular surgery too. a shitton of sedatives will do that. ect is also associated with temporary memory loss but it wears off just as quick as with a regular seizure, a little faster even. Also every time I’ve been in the procedure room for it the most that happens is the person’s feet wiggle a little for a few seconds?
idk maybe it’s just that I’ve seen way more terrifying medical shit done when I was sitting suicide watch in the ICU (I’m a DNR after seeing what it takes to keep someone alive at the brink of death) but it was like the least unsettling thing I’ve seen in a procedure room. In my OR clinical rotation the surgeon was literally HAMMERING that Lady’s titanium hip into place for 6 hours.
Shit sounded like a dwarven mine in a fantasy movie just DING DING DING with a fucking hammer in a sliced open little old lady for 6 hours straight. THAT was disturbing. Feet wiggling for a few seconds is nothing. especially not when you see it bring someone back from catatonia so deep they can’t eat.
After being in an ICU for a busy night and being in the same room while another person didn’t make it, I am DNR on like everything. You shouldn’t need to do that to my body for me to be alive.
If you’re willing to share, I would be interested in hearing your reasoning for a DNR if it’s outside of the typical cases (terminal, elderly, etc.). I don’t know a ton about what all they do to resuscitate beyond CPR/AED (when necessary) and possibly general life support measures
Honestly it’s not even the CPR that particularly bothers me, it’s the intubation and the stuff after. I’ve worked with so many patients who don’t have a lot of working neural tissue left and their family just has them medically tortured for years because they want to see them blink occasionally. Next time I update my documents I think I’m going to add that if my family wants something to happen to me that I have to be held down for, they have to be in the room. If they can’t stand to watch / listen to me while it happens, they’ve no right signing off on it.
Not the original commenter, but my understanding is that it’s used for severe depression when other treatments have been unsuccessful, so sort of a last resort. And apparently it’s fairly effective iirc, especially when compared to other treatment options (e.g., antidepressants).
I’m curious as to whether having a seizure disorder would correlate with lower depression rates, or if electroshock-induced seizures may lead to higher chances of having non-induced seizures in the future.
Afterwards the patients walk around like zombies for many hours and it is incredibly unfun to witness.
um. yeah. they do that after regular surgery too. a shitton of sedatives will do that. ect is also associated with temporary memory loss but it wears off just as quick as with a regular seizure, a little faster even. Also every time I’ve been in the procedure room for it the most that happens is the person’s feet wiggle a little for a few seconds?
idk maybe it’s just that I’ve seen way more terrifying medical shit done when I was sitting suicide watch in the ICU (I’m a DNR after seeing what it takes to keep someone alive at the brink of death) but it was like the least unsettling thing I’ve seen in a procedure room. In my OR clinical rotation the surgeon was literally HAMMERING that Lady’s titanium hip into place for 6 hours.
Shit sounded like a dwarven mine in a fantasy movie just DING DING DING with a fucking hammer in a sliced open little old lady for 6 hours straight. THAT was disturbing. Feet wiggling for a few seconds is nothing. especially not when you see it bring someone back from catatonia so deep they can’t eat.
After being in an ICU for a busy night and being in the same room while another person didn’t make it, I am DNR on like everything. You shouldn’t need to do that to my body for me to be alive.
If you’re willing to share, I would be interested in hearing your reasoning for a DNR if it’s outside of the typical cases (terminal, elderly, etc.). I don’t know a ton about what all they do to resuscitate beyond CPR/AED (when necessary) and possibly general life support measures
Honestly it’s not even the CPR that particularly bothers me, it’s the intubation and the stuff after. I’ve worked with so many patients who don’t have a lot of working neural tissue left and their family just has them medically tortured for years because they want to see them blink occasionally. Next time I update my documents I think I’m going to add that if my family wants something to happen to me that I have to be held down for, they have to be in the room. If they can’t stand to watch / listen to me while it happens, they’ve no right signing off on it.
Gotcha, that makes sense. It’s always baffling to me how we often treat animals with more dignity than people when it comes to end of life care.
A hard reboot will do that to ya.
What kind of conditions is electro therapy used to treat?
Treatment resistant chronic depression.
Not the original commenter, but my understanding is that it’s used for severe depression when other treatments have been unsuccessful, so sort of a last resort. And apparently it’s fairly effective iirc, especially when compared to other treatment options (e.g., antidepressants).
I’m curious as to whether having a seizure disorder would correlate with lower depression rates, or if electroshock-induced seizures may lead to higher chances of having non-induced seizures in the future.
there is actually a huuuge overlap between anticonvulsants / antiseizure medications and anti-manic agents (mania being the opposite of depression).