• DragonAce@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Finally a massive flaw that apple can’t lie about or hide from the public, like they usually do. What is sad is they’re already about 3-4 years behind Android in releasing a foldable device and they still somehow fucked it up

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      2 days ago

      Are you seriously suggesting that we don’t need competitors to Apple in the phone market?

      You realise that pretty much every innovation in iOS has been in Android for years sometimes decades before implemented by Apple. I think the last major innovation from Apple was iTunes, and it was crap.

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    3 days ago

    it’s folded 10,000 times by an expert Japanese phonesmith before it reaches the consumer. It does make it a little brittle but do you want a phone that’s not been properly broken in? It’s just the price you pay for tradition and brand loyalty.

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      2 days ago

      99% of the budget went on advertising, 0.9% went on tokens to Vibe code the engineering and 0.1% on manufacturing

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    3 days ago

    Oh, well. I’m sure there’ll be yet another model they’re pushing in a week or two. SELL! SELL! SELL!

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      3 days ago

      This looks more like a ford pinto situation. It was fine, bean counters tweaked something they thought was inconsequential to make it cheaper, they were not engineers are were wrong and ruined it.

      We need the post mortum

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      3 days ago

      Aren’t they the ones making this screen as well? They make pretty much every oled screen in the world.

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        3 days ago

        If you’re talking about eInk, the refresh rate and color fidelity are unacceptable for an apple device. There are eink phones on AliExpress, though. Just don’t expect apple-level quality.

        And while Moebius uses a plastic substrate, Carta and Kaleido use glass and can be pretty fragile. My Boox reader’s display cracked when I worked it out of its case.

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        3 days ago

        Probably because that stuff would fail if you carried it around in your pocket with your keys and folded it 8000 times, too.

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    3 days ago

    Looks like Apple should have made sure their precision engineered hinge was also accurate engineered.

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        3 days ago

        Yes, which is one of the many many reasons I’ll never be a billionaire (unless the currency devalues by more than three orders of magnitude).

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    3 days ago

    Hardly matters, the sort of people who buy such a pointless, gimicky and overly expensive phone will keep buying Apple regardless.

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      3 days ago

      I like tech, I think it’s cool, and expensive features almost always become cheap or standard features in the future.

      When someone figures out how to do this well, I will definitely want a folding phone. Although I want a phone that folds half the size of a normal phone, not a normal phone size that folds out to a tablet.

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        Although I want a phone that folds half the size of a normal phone, not a normal phone size that folds out to a tablet.

        You already got a joking reply to this with someone mentioning a regular flip phone, but Samsung does actually make what you’re asking for, the “Z Flip” line of phones, which have been developed in lock step with the more popular Z Fold series. Most recent is the Z Flip8 from this year.

        Image of graphite coloured Z Flip8

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          I am going to have to look into the durability of those. I often buy my phone a few generations behind and refurbished.

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            I’ve had many foldables and I’ve never broken them, and I’m not gentle with them, it’s not in a phone case, and being dropped several times. I think if it was dropped in the open state that might be a problem, but when it’s closed it’s actually protecting itself.

            In some ways you’re more likely to damage a traditional phone screen since it’s always on the outside and it’s made of glass and more likely to crack when dropped.

            There’s no scratches on mine but it is a fingerprint magnet. That’s what you get for having a plastic screen.

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        3 days ago

        Pretty much this. We had this multiple times already with different tech. For example “bezelless” phones were desired for years and they kept and kept making them smaller, at some point some manufacturers really forced it in premium models and then some time later it suddenly became pretty much standard.

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        3 days ago

        Samsung Fold and Pixel Fold have been getting it reliable for years now.

        But if you want half size, look at the Razr and its like $500 not $2000.

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          3 days ago

          They seem to hold up well enough, but I’m pretty anal about my glasses, screens, and monitors to be clean. And seeing the fold reflect light differently in the middle of the screen would not be a pleasant experience. The punchole cameras are had enough!

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            3 days ago

            It would probably drive me nuts. Everyone told me: you can hardly see it. I do, it’s there, it’s always there and it will always be there.