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  • Cethin@lemmy.ziptomemes@lemmy.worldW Celsius
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    2 days ago

    You didn’t answer why that makes it better. What functionality does it give us that we don’t have if we use two reference points from different things. I’m pretty confident there aren’t any. This is proven especially true because that’s not how Celsius is defined anymore, and it didn’t lose any functionality. It sounds more “pure”, or whatever, but that doesn’t make it better. Do you have an actual reason that it improves its functionality?


  • Cethin@lemmy.ziptomemes@lemmy.worldW Celsius
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    2 days ago

    Fahrenheit was set to 0 on the lowest temperature someone could achieve at time. And 100 was set to the body temperature of the human body. Totally two comparable points of measurement.

    It’s not the coldest someone could achieve at the time. It was chosen because it’s a reliable low temperature that will consistently be produced by a particular brine solution.

    Celsius uses the melting point of water as 0.and then uses, revolutionary, the same water when it changes its state from liquid to gas.

    That doesn’t really make it better, does it? How does that make it better? It sounds like it makes it better, but functionally what’s better about it? What functionally is made superior by defining it as two stages of one thing rather than stages of different things? As long as the temperatures are reliably reproduced, it’s functionally the same. Sure, being a measure of water does make it more useful when you care about water (at sea level, and only at sea level), as I said before. It doesn’t generally make it better though.


  • Cethin@lemmy.ziptomemes@lemmy.worldW Celsius
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    3 days ago

    They are both made up but what is the fahrenheit? Where does the scale start? How much does it increment by? How does it relate to other units?

    0F is the same, but for brine. 100F was what was believed to be body temperature (still, close enough).

    This is arbitrary yes, but the importance is not if it’s arbitrary but that it is a description of a physical property in our world that can be experimentally repeated, tested and verified.

    They both can. Notably, the definitions that you and I both gave aren’t actually how they’re defined anymore. They’re both defined using Kelvin, because that’s the one that’s actually more valid. C and F are just defined as points on that scale. An authority literally did decide it’s a different value than years before, as the pressure at sea level is somewhat variable. They decided to use universal constants, that K is defined with, to define both of these scales.

    There’s a reason that all imperial units are scientifically described by their relation to their metric counterpart and it’s because metric units are based on physical properties of the universe around us and so we can measure them as opposed to just define them.

    See above. You’re thinking of SI units, not metric. They’re mostly the same, except notably the SI unit for temperature is Kelvin, not Celsius.


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    3 days ago

    F and C are both made up points, not absolute values. C is great, if what you care about is what water is doing. F is great, if you care about how something feels to a human (not saying you can’t memorize new numbers, but 0 and 100 being dangerous is simple).

    If you want an actual “best” temperature scale, use Kelvin. 0 is no energy. It actually has a fundamental base. If you argue that temperatures that are useful to humans are too hard to memorize, then you’re making the argument against C too (or F when dealing with water).




  • Dude, no one is asking for realism. Why are you strawmaning?

    Play a modern shooter, and compare that to Starfield or FO4. They just don’t feel good. Weapons don’t have weight to them, and there’s no impact to them being fired. Your character barely reacts. You just run around spraying bullets, and it doesn’t feel like anything.

    What it needs are good animations, recoil systems, camera punch, VFX, and things like that. Starfield and FO4 have almost none of that. It’s the bare minimum to not be absolute trash. If you’re comparing it to FO3, they’re fairly good. If you’re comparing it to something like Battlefield, Escape from Tarkov, or anything modern, not so much.

    That’s not to say there’s nothing to enjoy. I think FO4 was reasonably good, and FO3 and NV were good too. I just didn’t enjoy them for the gunplay. It’s everything around that that makes them good.

    Personally though, I think Starfield sucks. The story is bland as hell if you know much sci-fi (if you’re failing to appeal to the audience that follows the genre, you failed). Exoring sucks. Clearing dungeons is pretty boring after you’ve done the five dungeons a few times. The loading screens, even on an NVMe SSD, constantly take you out of the experience. I just don’t understand what there is to like. I’d rather play FO4 with a bunch of cool mods if I’m playing something like it, or Morrowind if I want a good Bethesda RPG.












  • They are unrelated things. It has nothing to do with “what we feel”

    I didn’t say it did. I just said it’s more useful for that. Whether it was on purpose or not, 100 and 0 are when it’s dangerous. Before those it can still be, but beyond them you really need to be careful.

    Celsius is also arbitrary. There’s no particular reason water, at sea level, is used for the scale. It was just chosen. If you’re measuring water, it’s great. Otherwise, there’s nothing that makes it “better” than F. It’s not easier to convert to scale to higher or lower numbers or anything, which is what the metric system usually has an advantage with. They’re both just scales.

    I’ve been playing Stationeers a lot lately. (It’s a game about managing a station on another planet, and simulates liquids and gasses really well, following the ideal gas law, and phase changes, and all that good stuff. I highly recommend it, and the devs are great.) In that you use Celsius and Kelvin, with you often needing kK or even larger. It wouldn’t make sense to use F, because it’s hard to switch between F and K, but C and K are the same, with K just being 274.15 higher. I have no issue with C, but this type of use is the one place it’s better, and no one I know would ever have to do this.