How bad would running Windows 10 past support be exactly? Seems like most vulnerabilities should have been patched by now.
Short term honestly likely fine for your avg person. After even six months tho I wouldn’t trust using it for banking, government sites or anything more sensitive then looking at cat memes.
Its probably more lazy than anything. Security always depends on what you need to protect. If you want to keep using it, dont keep sensitive information on it. People will target vulnerabilities in Windows 10 as time goes on.
There’s always going to be vulnerabilities, that’s why they’re ending support. They don’t want to spend time updating an OS they don’t want people using.
Windows 10 is probably fairly secure… today. In 2 years, someone might discover a new vulnerability, and you won’t get the update. If there’s a new way to do web security and the browsers need OS support to implement it, you’ll be stuck on legacy security settings.
See an example here:
Microsoft said both issues could allow attackers to execute code with elevated privileges, although there are currently no indications on how they are being exploited and how widespread these efforts may be. In the case of CVE-2025-24990, the company said it’s planning to remove the driver entirely, rather than issue a patch for a legacy third-party component.
The security defect has been described as “dangerous” by Alex Vovk, CEO and co-founder of Action1, as it’s rooted within legacy code installed by default on all Windows systems, irrespective of whether the associated hardware is present or in use.
New attack vectors are found constantly. Having no support can very likely result in a system that can be automatically breached in a few weeks to months.
As long as you don’t have a public IP on your device and are in a trusted network you should be fine. But if you use a public wifi or somehow expose a port to the internet you’re increasingly vulnerable for each day after the last security update.
It’s insane how much extra time, effort and sanity you can retain simply by switching to Linux. I initially switched a few years ago, then fully shortly after. Using my PCs has never been better and I had no issues with gaming. The only games that don’t work are some of the live service ones I’ll never be interested in.
One of the best decisions in my life, right up there with deleting all social media. Life keeps getting better, relatively speaking, but of course rich pedophiles just can’t tolerate us having a good time.
I’m hoping I can last one more month with my Win10 laptop. After that I’ll have the time to see if UNIX is the way to go. My laptop is almost 10 years old so I’m not sure if that would be like putting lipstick on an old pig or not.
You’ll likely be amazed at how well it works, I’d take a 10 year old laptop with Debian+KDE over a brand new laptop with Win11, and it’s not close.
nah older laptops flourish with linux. get ventoy and you can already try out distros without getting committed
I just put cachyos on an hp laptop from 2016 or so. It runs so much better now. The old devices dont handle the bloat of Windows well anymore. Ive heard others have had compatibility issues but I haven’t so I can’t comment on that.
Since security patches are not being deployed on a daily or weekly basis, you should be fine for even more than a month. Eventually using Windows 10 for security or privacy relevant activities, like banking, e-mail or such will become dangerous as more and more unpatched weaknesses might evolve.
Guess I’ll be keeping mine offline forever then.
Long time windows user, games retained me but I found Proton so bye bye forever windows. Now convincing my wife to switch it’s the real challenge haha
Just do it while she’s at work!
I hate windows 11 so much. Notifications are so much harder to read compared to 10 due to the right menu being nonexistant, instead we have this floating notification area that I never use. Everything takes ages to load, even on my beefy pc Settings still takes like 10 seconds to open. And it feels like the programmers died halfway though re-coding the context menus. Everything slightly more advanced can only be done through the old stuff so you end up with this awful mess where there’s no design consistency, and it takes twice the clicks to get to something.
Glad I ditched windows 11 for linux mint.
These threads feel kinda redundant, all comments are just preaching to the choir.
Can anyone comment about anything besides “[…] switched to Linux […]”?
There are several common refrains on Lemmy that many people find cathartic. If you don’t care to tell us about your preferred Linux distro again, maybe another thread will pop up soon about how streaming services are enshittified and you can tell us about what you’re self-hosting again.
Sure, I switched to Mac.
Stay on 10 and force M$ to give further updates because of sheer popularity, just like they had to with XP
Companies have already updated, new notebooks come with windows 11, it’s sadly inevitable that most users will sooner or later be switched to windows 11.
Windows team is desperate to remain relevant.
I suspect most Microsoft revenue these days comes from Azure and the cloud version of Office. Windows OS is pretty much irrelevant other than as a platform to distribute other products.
Windows is about 10% of Microsoft revenue
My experience with W11 on the work laptop.
Taskbar sucks, maybe because I’m colorblind but I can te what my selected program is and programs with notifications (Teams) look like the focused program. Apparently notification boxes there are pink now. Can’t find any accessibility setting but fuck the colorblind I guess. It feels wrong to click the highlighted icon I for years have learned will mean that I minimize it…
And why all the dots? And why is the notification dot the largest, so I can even tell which window is actually focused?
Outlook doesn’t open with focus, especially the window that is supposed to pop up and warn me of upcoming meetings. Really annoying.
Teams notifications just don’t show if you are in a meeting and that is focused, they used to do that on W10.
Might be a Firefox bug, but there’s a lot of new visual bugs. Github diff view is randomly strongly colored, and randomly changes to the old weaker background colors when scrolling/resizing the windows. And a surprising amount of scrollbars in grids that weren’t there before.
I just wish W11 at least worked with the regular features of W10.
Can’t find any accessibility setting but fuck the colorblind I guess.
On Windows 11 there are accessibility settings for colorblind people. Settings -> Accessibility -> Color Filters. There, you can enable the feature and choose the right filter for you. Going by your description, I’m not sure it’ll help, but feel free to try it. Colorblind accessibility options have been progressing quite nicely the past few years, so at least there’s something to be happy about.
I upgraded to Windows 11 last week after my laptop initially came with it 2 years ago, but was so bloated and slow I installed Windows 10 from USB.
With the EoL I reluctantly upgraded due to company policy, and it was running surprisingly smooth. Really thought they’d fixed it. Only that two days later when I booted the system, I had a blue screen - the first one I have seen since Windows XP.
Page fault in non-page area 0x50 - google suggests reboots, or if they don’t bring any progress, boot into safe mode and update all drivers. Only that I couldn’t boot into safe mode, the BSOD locked me out.
Second suggestion was faulty RAM. Did a memtest from boot stick, no fault.
Third suggestion was to run checkdisk and scm or whatever it was called (some system file integrity check). All good.
Fourth suggestion was to boot into recovery mode, roll back into the system image the Windows 11 installer created, and redo the upgrade. Only to find out that the system restore point had not been created, despite the info box during the installation that this was happening.
Last suggestion was to reinstall Windows 11 from the repair mode, and select the “keep files” option. The offline installer crashed at 25% repeatedly, the online installer moved to 92% and stopped there. Repeatedly, again (tried 3x, and it takes about 1h to get there).
After all that frustration I had enough of that shit and installed Windows 10 IoT LTSC with updates until 2032. When the time comes I’ll either have a new job where I can use Xubuntu, or Microsoft installed on a chip in my brain. Let’s see.
If it’s working fine in 10, it’s very unlikely to be a hardware fault. Possible (but unlikely) a hardware configuration.
The answer was almost certainly drivers. While I acknowledge that you were unsuccessful at changing them, that is still where your issues came from. You probably could’ve fixed it WinPE/WinRE, which is admittedly way more complicated than it should be.
10% chance of BS when I plug in my docking station. Has been working for years before the upgrade.
VMware is straight up broken on some of our laptops. Hyper-V is noticeably slower, too. Why would I recommend Server 2025 to anyone?
New job provides hardware and allows me to install Linux. Hell yeah.
Not to speak for Windows or against Xubuntu, but didn’t Xubuntu just recently have some secrity exploit that was pushed as an update to devices?
Nah their website got hijacked and instead of an ISO they spread malware. The system itself was never at risk, if you ran it.
I’ve never had a windows 11 blue screen but then again this computer has always had windows 11 on it. It wasn’t an upgrade.
But there is virtually nothing in the OS and that is an improvement over 10. As far as I can sell all of them it’s had a bunch of ads to it and make it simultaneously impossible to use anything other than OneDrive, but at the same time not having OneDrive be remotely reliable.
Windows is becoming so trash that a bunch of my not-that-tech-savvy friends have been hitting me up asking about gaming on various Linux distros. (Just a few years ago it was all “Linux? Haha nerd”.) And the non gamers are switching to Mac at a remarkable rate.
And things have progressed so well that even for the non-technical crew, after installing Mint and showing them how to use ProtonPlus to install and select Proton-GE, they’re pretty much off to the races without much further hand holding.
If you absolutely need to use Windows11, use Tiny11. But for the great majority of users, Zorin/Ubuntu/Mint or Bazzite are best pick
I work in IT and far be it for me to tell you what OS to use on your own computer.
The only thing I want to die right now, is the AI bubble. Just pop already. Holy fuck what a worthless endeavor this has been.
+1000. one of my coworkers keeps thinking he’s saving time with AI-generated code but what he’s really doing is pushing the thinking downstream when we have to pick apart the absolute garbage that gets generated.
PR feedback gets turned into AI prompts and the cycle continues. It’s exhausting
Yeah, it’s BS. I scrutinize PRs to let peers realize that it’s often not worth the time when they have to redo basically everything the agent wrote in the first place. There’s been some truly lazy PRs…
I am 99% Tumbleweed except my gaming PC which is still on Win11 (but I haven’t seen any bloat on it, no ads in winkey menu etc).
I am a huge flight simmer and, besides Xplane, MSFS has Microsoft in its name but the problem is more about the tons of tools around the simulator rather than the sim (aircraft, peripherals, maps&nav, ATC, job manager etc). MSFS do run on proton, but plenty of background tools don’t 😔
I haven’t seen any bloat on it, no ads in winkey menu
If you’re in the EU, that’s probably why. I think the bloat is only for non-EU users.
I am so yes it’s probably why.
The iso from massgrave was made with Rufus that can disable the unnecessary requirements and force creation of a local account instead of windows live 🖕
Then activated and lightly debloated with powershell. That makes windows usable for what I need it to, just launching games.
Everything else is done on a minisforum Linux or framework Linux (even sometimes gaming on it when I’m not at home).
Yep, I’ve seen MS flight simulator fans basically create entire cockpits in their house with a crap tonne of screens for 180-degree vision and hook up all the 3rd party peripherals.
There’s just no way this will ever work seamlessly on Linux
Yeah, but Xplane 12 does work natively and perfectly on Linux and MacOS. So there’s that.
But I guess if you start adding several joysticks (minimum of 3 for an aircraft, joystick or yoke, rudder, throttle quadrant) with assorted softwares it becomes a bit of a headache and most probably it won’t be 3 joysticks from the same vendor.
And today we have the Chinese winwings that makes full glareshield and mcdu at acceptable prices https://eu.winwingsim.com/view/goods-details.html?id=925 so that’s another software to configure.
And all of that is only for one aircraft type (Airbus in my example) 😅
