• M137@lemmy.today
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    7 days ago

    This thread has been very eye opening abiut how fucking dumb many of you are and how ignorant you are about the fediverse etc. I expected some (valid) .world hate but so many of these comments makes me confused about how many people even ended up here because their obvious idiocy and ignorance points to that not being possible.

  • melsaskca@lemmy.ca
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    7 days ago

    I wonder if the Jehovah’s witnesses are excited like this when they get a good number of members. /s

  • rhinestones@europe.pub
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    7 days ago

    As wealthy millionaire living my best life, I’m giving 35 grand to anyone who messages “GRACE” on Telegram @Georgestones12 I understand that many people are struggling with bills, and I want to help reduce that burden. It’s a season of love, kindness, and blessings.

      • kingofras@lemmy.world
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        8 days ago

        Only one that matters is MAU and that has been flatlining, and going down if you remove the nsfw influx. It’s really not going as well as it should: the internet is growing every day, and reddit, X, FB, and the others are all cozying up to fascism, and we’re struggling to show meaningful growth.

        • OpenStars@discuss.onlineEnglish
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          7 days ago

          Sort of - it has been going down even if you don’t discount that. The peak at Rexodus was 65K, we held 40-45K for a long time, but just as the Fediverse Observer site stopped working we had finally dropped below 30K (see last Fedilytics post), after trending towards that for a very long time.

          We continually lose more people than come in to replace them. And as they leave, they tell people how horrific their experiences were here, having been chased away by trolls (we require a lot of blocking actions performed at the user level to maintain sanity here).

          • kingofras@lemmy.world
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            7 days ago

            After more than 2 years, I discovered that a large portion of Lemmy is closset pro trump, and anti elections, while calling themselves “left”.

            Some random mod even went through the trouble of banning me from a couple dozen communities on their instance because I encourage early voting. Encouraging voting equals being a zionist over there. So yeah, this thing is dying.

            The main reason Lemmy exists and is free is because instance owners are seeing it as a tool to radicalise unsuspecting users. Turns out these platforms all come with a spez bolted on.

            • OpenStars@discuss.onlineEnglish
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              6 days ago

              In fairness they don’t actually care about Trump so much as “death to America”, so wanting to use him to bring about the end of that empire. And that’s not so much closeted as it is trumpeted loudly and proudly everywhere.

              And likewise conservative parties in the UK, and elsewhere in the Western civilization. Also, according to them, unironically Russia was “forced” into invading Ukraine, bc of NATO aggression or whatevs. And there’s no genocide going on inside of China. That’s… good to know, I suppose, or would have been good if it were true.

              But they are (not even alternative) right about one thing: what are we going to do about it? If nothing, as is roughly 80% the case so far, then that’s that.

              • kingofras@lemmy.world
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                6 days ago

                I get it in a world that has shifted dramatically to the right, the left has been squeezed and compressed and pushed and pushed towards more extreme values to counterbalance that.

                But the death of an empire seems to me like the equivalent of shooting your own foot to forget about your toothaches.

                And more importantly, that infamous quote comes up:

                “You fool! As if it matters how a man an empire falls down.” To which his companion replies: “When the fall’s all that’s left, it matters a great deal.”

                • OpenStars@discuss.onlineEnglish
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                  6 days ago

                  Nobody was pushed into anything - they chose it. We can watch videos of people being killed in Tiannamen Square, while they choose to believe that nobody died there. Yes, people “push” back, saying that people died there, and look here’s all this proof, like here you can talk to this person who was there even… but in return they stuck their head into the sand and close their eyes and ears and believe whatever fantasy they wish.

                  And then work to overthrow America, along with the rest of the Western World (the USA was only a high priority due to resources, but all nations nearby and especially adjacent to Russia would be nice plump targets if that were possible…).

                  Exactly like MAGA in the USA, the various “issues” (like anti-abortion, anti-trans agenda, or pro-states rights, except when they feel otherwise then it’s anti-states rights, etc.) don’t matter nearly so much as hollowing themselves out to allow themselves to be controlled by those at the top. Tankies will debate-bro you endlessly, using logical fallacy after logical fallacy forever, but at the end of the day somehow none of the facts actually matter, and it devolves simply into advancing the agendas of nations that aren’t the least bit leftist in reality. Like the fall of Western civilizations, though at this point I halfway expect the narrative to change to supporting the USA as it works to become Russia’s ally.

        • realitista@lemmus.orgEnglish
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          7 days ago

          Why is it the only one that matters? We aren’t a startup trying to attract VC or go public or something. What matters to the users of Lemmy is how much content is here and whether it’s high quality or just bot spam.

        • antiR@lemmy.world
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          7 days ago

          I think what matters is funding and donation, not monthly active users. As long as people keep donating, the servers stay up and stay ad-free. Lemmy can cater to a specific paying user base and thrive from there. More active users that do not donate can be detrimental as the revenue does not scale by user base as it is not ad-driven but donation driven. More users can indeed increase potential donations but it’s not a guarantee.

    • M137@lemmy.today
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      7 days ago

      How are you so unable to use your brain?
      The function and idea of decentralisation isn’t to evenly distribute users across every instance, some instances being much larger than others is and extremely obvious thing.

    • toothpaste_sandwich@thebrainbin.org
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      8 days ago

      All those users are from different instances. That’s decentralized.

      If this community goes down or is otherwise not viable anymore, users can easily find another, similar community, while not having to switch to a different platform or instance or whatever themselves. That’s how this is supposed to work.

      Decentralization with different larger communities on different instances, with community members from all kinds of different instances, baby!

        • OpenStars@discuss.onlineEnglish
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          7 days ago

          Settings -> scroll down to Import/Export Settings, click the Export button, repeat with Import in the new account, works even across Lemmy -> PieFed or PyLova.

        • TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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          7 days ago

          You can, it’s easy and quick. I just exported my profile settings (builtin to the default lemmy.world web UI) to a json file in a couple seconds. Confirmed it contains blocked users and communities.

    • Die4Ever@retrolemmy.comEnglish
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      7 days ago

      We are decentralized, the Fediverse has 14.2 million accounts. Lemmy+Piefed+Mbin have 551k users. Obviously we could be better spread out, but the fact that there’s no instance at 50% share is already pretty nice.

      And if a big instance enshittified, it would be drastically easier for everyone to leave it compared to convincing people to leave Reddit or something. You just export/import your user settings and you get to keep the communities you’ve subscribed to and block, and the users you’ve blocked.

    • Magitian@programming.dev
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      7 days ago

      Precisely! What’s the point of an overpopulated instance? It’s more likely to affect users because of blanket instance blocklists.

        • arrow74@lemmy.zip
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          8 days ago

          Decentralized networks with large centralized communities is the best approach. You have to have that number of people to have interesting conversations and engagement.

          But if all the users are spread out across several instances it becomes more resilient. If a large community/instance goes offline or there’s a controversy then it can be migrated to a new instance

          • lastlybutfirstly@lemmy.world
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            7 days ago

            I vaguely know what an instance is, but let me see if I can get this straight.

            So an instance in the Fediverse is a website hosted either on a web hosting service, right? So it’s like if I wanted to start one, it’d be similar to starting an old fashion forum like phpBB? I’d buy a domain, get a webhosting service, and install the software?

            And the communities are analogous to sub forums? Except instead of me creating them, the users on my forum would create them?

        • Semperverus@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          8 days ago

          It’s good to have it as an option but most people are frustrated if they can’t just go to one place that has tons of people.

      • Cethin@lemmy.zipEnglish
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        6 days ago

        No, it isn’t. People will refuse to leave, just as we’ve seen with FB, Reddit, etc. Lemmy.world has already enshitified from where it started, and from the position of nearly every other instance, yet people like you are still there. That’s proof against your argument.

      • Goodeye8@piefed.socialEnglish
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        7 days ago

        Except in this there’s really not a lot of benefit when it comes to centralization so it would be better to decentralize to make sure no single instance becomes too big. I’d say world is already a bit too big because 90% of my subscribed feeds would be gone if world no longer federated with Piefed. World has significant sway on our side of the fediverse because smaller instances will probably feel dead (or turn into an echo chamber) if world won’t federate with them.

        • cannedtuna@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          8 days ago

          .ml has a lot of pro-Russia, pro-China types and criticism of either country can lead to a quick ban.

          Functionally, there is no difference. Both run the same software, tho the versions may slightly differ as the devs, who run .ml, push updates.

          For a functionally different experience try Mbin/Kbin (I forget which is the current), or Piefed. Piefed is similar to Lemmy with some quality of life improvements. Kbin/Mbin is a cross between “tweet” style posts, “blog” style posts like tumblr, and Reddit type posts.

          • Jiral@lemmy.world
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            7 days ago

            Ok, I get it that there are pro-China guys, plenty of Russian regime fans around as well. But the thing that really caught me by surprise is that there are seriously people entirely serious about how North Korea is heaven earth.

        • FiniteBanjo@feddit.onlineEnglish
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          7 days ago

          ML was run by the Lemmy frontend maintainers who drain the blood of puppies for sustenance and wish to kill you slowly and painfully as a source of income.

        • leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          7 days ago

          .world is doing its best to replicate every bad thing about reddit (starting with powermods) while avoiding every positive aspect it might have once had. I’m sure its admins have constant wet dreams about the day they can go public and sell it for parts.

          .ml is trying to pretend it’s not lemmygrad by putting on glasses with a fake nose and a moustache.

          Both are toxic and harmful to the fediverse.

          Similar things can be said of most other “big” instances to a lesser extent (including the one I’m in, but I’m too lazy to move out for a third time).

          Frankly, the only instance I’d trust to not be politically compromised is fedinsfw, and I already got bit once by lemmynsfw’s incompetent management (when they lost control of it to a rogue admin and it closed for months), so I’m not going back there.

          Next time I have to move I’ll be rolling my own private instance, or quitting altogether.

          • OpenStars@discuss.onlineEnglish
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            7 days ago

            You might try one of the .zips. Very competent admins who defederate from next to nothing, leaving the choice up to the user (mainly as opt-in blocks, with just ~3 opt-out ones iirc).

            If you roll your own though then probably PieFed/PyLova would be much easier than Lemmy to deploy and manage.

            Regardless of how the most controversial communities on Lemmy.world decide to be, it’s good to spread out and decentralize.

        • Ripley_Tripley@lemmus.orgEnglish
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          8 days ago

          From my experience, people in .world are way more open to positive discussion than .ml. Everything upsets .ml if you say the wrong thing or dont post the right way, to make them understand. Its to much fucking drama for no reason.