• SleeplessCityLights@programming.dev
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          2 months ago

          You could just wrap your phone in tinfoil, but there is an exact way that you have to do it. If you have ever been somewhere remote without signal, your phone will nuke it’s battery trying to find signal by increasing the antenna’s power. You have to put it in airplane mode to save your battery. Not matter what you do, even turning your phone off, the antenna will be live sending some signal. The takeaway is that even with a hacky Faraday cage, your phone will try it’s hardest to phone home and could win with a tiny tear in the foil.

          • shartgargle@lemmy.zip
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            2 months ago

            Honestly just easier to leave it at home. Or in your vehicle, assuming you didn’t pass by the camera on your way, and leave it sufficiently far enough away. I doubt they can read RFID from cards yet, even at a close enough distance to cut the pole down, but might want to leave those at home as well.

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                2 months ago

                They’ve become so attached that they get anxious without them.

                “Oh man, I gotta park far away so it doesn’t read my plates and info from the car… Well I’ve gotta bring my Galaxy watch so it counts all the extra steps I’ll be taking.”

  • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    I really, really hope people don’t go out en masse and destroy every single Flock camera that is unconstitutionally filming and profiling them, because it would be a terrible crime to do so. Definitely do not do this people.

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      2 months ago

      Not American. What is flock? Is this like a ring doorbell? Are people suggesting to destroy personal property of their neighbours?

      Or is this like some government cameras that are in public spaces filming ?

      • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        Or is this like some government cameras that are in public spaces filming ?

        It’s a nationwide network of cameras used by federal, state, and local governments to track and profile people in public. It doesn’t just record, but builds a database of information on every car, license plate, and person that’s filmed, so it’s seen to be very dystopian.

        Even worse, the tech gets it wrong and mistaken identity is common, and it ends up endangering people due to the violent methods US police employ. However, it’s privacy concerns that are foremost, because there’s an amendment in our country’s Constitution that should prohibit this kind of privacy violation.

        If you’d like to learn more, I made a YT video on the topic recently.

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          2 months ago

          Wild stuff. That is far worse than I thought was going on.

          What a scary timeline and I hope the country and sort out this stuff and reform this type activity.

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            2 months ago

            They’re not just cameras. They also log nearby mobile devices. They’ve gone from a few hundred nationwide to over 100,000 in like 2 years.

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              Uber is going to start implementing the same thing, so mobile Flock that you wouldn’t be able to take down.

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                2 months ago

                Someone could deploy devices that clone signals they hear and replay them at random to poison all the data. But they definitely should not do that.

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      2 months ago

      Definitely don’t remind people to leave their phones at home or use a Faraday bag to shield their tech.

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        2 months ago

        Indeed. Not having those signals to trace could make it significantly more difficult for law enforcement to identify you, and we certainly don’t want the essential job of law enforcement to be inhibited.

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    Are there good ways to kill a flock camera from a distance?

    Could aiming a laser at the lense damage the ccd in the camera?

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      2 months ago

      One-watt 532nm green laser or a .22LR bullet. The bullet is probably safer.

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        2 months ago

        That’s fair. Yeah some Halloween costumes are all well and good, but for the rest of the year, it would be great if there’s a way to destroy these cameras without getting caught on camera yourself.

        The thought behind the laser idea was just that it might not draw a lot of attention.

        If anyone has better ideas, please do share them. My goal is to come up with less risky ways of dismantling them than getting right up there with a ladder. The .22 might be the simplest solution so far.

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          2 months ago

          Seems like a mask and no electronics on you would be a far better solution here. Perhaps even a fancy mask celebrating the great Spooky Season holiday.

  • AxisExperience9@sh.itjust.works
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    Use Faraday pouches or leave your phone at home this Halloween. Flock cams gather Bluetooth, cellular, and WiFi data as you pass by them

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    Flock will be on the alert October 31.

    But I have observed you can wear a Halloween costume, including masks, any day starting October 1st without attracting (the bad kind of ) attention or seeming out of place. It’s fun, economical (get more use out of costume) and I encourage everyone to do it as often as feasible. Whether you deflock your neighborhood or just provide cover for those who do, you’ll also be confusing the cameras and messing with the data.

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      They can “be on the alert” on Halloween and it wouldn’t matter. Not like they can post a cop at all 200,000 of their cameras.

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      2 months ago

      Need to agree on a common costume, otherwise someone is going to stick out as the one guy wearing a luigi costume and coincidentally all the cameras were destroyed by one dude in a luigi costume.

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        2 months ago

        Having a standard “uniform” tells the authorities who to watch and follow before anything happens.

        Better to have a general strategy of “costume you can easily change / remove.”

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    2 months ago

    I’m dressing as a Flockjack for Halloween! I wouldn’t mind Halloween shifting to be an annual purging by the people of government surveillance.

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    Their solution will just be cameras you can’t see. My mom worked in security 40+ years ago and they were using pin head cameras that were invisible to the human eye.

    Destroying them is not going to solve the problem, but I suppose it may be a good start.

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      That’s why it’s important to go to your city/town council meetings and put the brakes on data centers. Cameras are much less effective if the infrastructure to transmit, process, and store their feeds can’t be built out. Vote out and recall anyone who is supportive. End privatization of utilities so we can yank their electricity too.